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    Reaching 6500 3DMarks on 8600m

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Jayson S, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. Jayson S

    Jayson S Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've read up that some people have managed to achieve 6500 on their 8600m GT graphic cards!

    I would really want to do this... But... How?! I've overclocked from:

    475mhz to 684mhz
    702mhz to 900mhz (DDR3 memory)

    The best score I got was 5500 on 3D Mark 06... (Free edition, no settings changed)

    Any tips on increasing my score by 1000? lol

    Also, I'm using the stock drivers. I tried overclocking on the newer 178.13 drivers, but it wouldn't let me overclock the GPU at all!

    My specs are:

    Dell m1530
    Intel T9300 (2.5Ghz)
    4GB RAM
    8600m GT 256mb
    500Gb Hard drive
    1920x1200 screen

    Thanks!
     
  2. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    try the newest drivers on laptopvideo2go.com
    try OCing your cpu (assuming you can wiht some program)
    make sure you have a good laptop cooler
    close any background services and programs
    and just keep pushing it...
     
  3. BenLeonheart

    BenLeonheart walk in see this wat do?

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    Computer elves...
    they get your score to 6500 o_O

    Well...
    As the above poster said:

    Drivers (some get you higher score)
    Cooling.

    Cooling and cooling.
    Perhaps you can overclock to a point using eg. RivaTuner, then save the config. and have it run OC'ed... then open up another tuner, like nTune, and overclock the already overclocked card?

    fetches a higher score mayb..

    be careful not to fry your 8600m, they're very sensitive lol.
     
  4. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    I could only get mine to 600/850/1400. 'Course I don't have a laptop cooler. My card sometimes reaches 85C, at which point my games start to stutter (I'm assuming the card downclocks), though as far as I can remember this has only happened when I was playing on carpet :p.
     
  5. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    First off, run on XP, that'll get you a ~10-15% boost

    Secondly, they're likely using 1280x800 resolution rather than 1280x1024

    Also, trying to reach a certain score on 3DMark06 won't really help your ingame performance and runs the risk of frying your card, so be careful...
     
  6. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    Actually, gaming performance in Vista SP1 is about the same as XP SP3 with proper drivers.
     
  7. Pranalien

    Pranalien Notebook Veteran

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    until the motherboard bursts into flames. :D
     
  8. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    3DMark06 scores will still rise by a significant margin. link (check the scores at 1280x800 without OC vista (~3600) vs. XP(~3900))

    This furthers the argument that 3DMark and gaming performance have a pretty loose correlation.
     
  9. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    lol thats some major pushing bud....remember, there aint no temp monitor for memory and 900 looks quite high :O
     
  10. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    have fun with that ;)

    won't change anything though.
     
  11. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    Sure it can! It can make him go from 30FPS to Zero after his GPU fries :p
     
  12. miscolobo

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    lol hahaha
     
  13. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Dude, just stay with 5500. The stuttering in games is not downclocking, they are artifacts. A safe overclock should NOT have any of that stuttering. You are killing your laptop if you go that high, the m1530 has a **** cooling solution.
     
  14. miscolobo

    miscolobo Notebook Deity

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    Even if your card doesnt overheat ( in terms of core ) it will probably die within 5~6 months..
     
  15. scythie

    scythie I died for your sins.

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    Not to mention G84 core GPUs being prone to just suddenly failing...
     
  16. Dire NTropy

    Dire NTropy Notebook Deity

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    In addition, each laptop's max overclock is different. While theirs may be able to push to 6500, yours could potentially burn out at 6000. The risk is not worth it IMHO.
     
  17. nomoredell

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    i dont even believe a 8600m gt can be oced to 5500 at 1280x1024 res.
    4500 3d06 score for oced 8600m gt seems to be doable.
     
  18. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    just run 3dmark in a lower resolution. screw 6500. you can get shoot for 10,000!

    try 800x600 for starters.
     
  19. mullenbooger

    mullenbooger Former New York Giant

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    DDR3 I think can
     
  20. BenLeonheart

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    Use CPUID Hardware Monitor, and play a windowed game...
    see if the cores reach 85C

    Im pretty sure 8600mGT starts to stutter above the 96C range...
    whereas the processor downclocks @ 85C (until it cools down to 70C)

    try and see?
     
  21. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    My 8600M GT starts to stutter at 85C :(

    Is that abnormal?

    I was playing UT3 one time and my framrate dropped from 35-40 to 22, so I checked and my temps were around 85-87C .I was playing on the carpet in my girlfriend's apartment though, which was why it got so hot; normally I play on a desk, and my temps rarely jump above 83C.
     
  22. angelicvoices

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    I wouldn't be overclocking that card since it's one of the known defective cores. Anything over 70C is bad for the defective ones.. If it's starting to have problems as you see the temperature rise then baaaaaad... No that is not normal nor ok.
     
  23. cathy

    cathy Notebook Evangelist

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    I can hit 5350 on 1280x1024, but that's with an insane overclock of 600/900. It's stable though.

    I doubt it's possible to hit 6500 even on 1280x800. The highest overclock I've seen so far is 680/890, and that only gets 6000 at 1280x800.
     
  24. Slaughterhouse

    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

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    Wow I can't even get past 5150 on my 9600M GT. But I haven't experimented much so I'm curious if I can push it even more.
     
  25. 660hpv12

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    if you are doing this just for big 3dmark numbers. I vote agianst it. the 8600m gt is potentially defective. by the remote chance that your extreme overclocking blows up the video card, and by the remote chance that dell finds out you overclocked. you will not get your laptop fixed in warranty
     
  26. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just a tip, Never OC CPU + GPU on laptop, OC one of them, otherwise, make sure you are ready Because your Lappy will Fry in 2-3 months
     
  27. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    The interesting thing is, overclocking doesn't seem to raise my temps much. Before I OC'd my card still hovered around 81C when gaming.
     
  28. KernalPanic

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    Assuming we want 6500 at 1280x1024...
    (lower resolutions are moot... who cares if you can get a 6.5k at 800x600?)

    -get the fastest processor you can... processor highly affects 3dmark06 due to the biased processor-only component.
    -OC into OC'd 8700m zone if possible (you will likely need some serious cooling, and this is danger-zone for an 8600m GT even if its not faulty in any way)

    8700m can get in that range OC'd with T9300-series...
    granted that would be at 775+ core and 1550+ shaders, (900+ mem) which likely wouldn't work on an 8600m GT with their normal cooling units
    Odds are you'd have to back down on the 8600m clock if you cannot find some pretty impressive cooling.

    You could compensate with a faster processor... but buying a X-series seems a bit of a waste here considering that this is pump a score. 3dmark06 isn't a bad benchmark, its just got its' biases and quite frankly pumping a score up artificially by abusing its biases just doesn't sound truly useful.

    You will gain very little real-world performance boost from an x-series and even OC'd X-series as most games will definitely not be CPU-limited with an 8600m GT with even a 2.4GHz processor.

    Why would you want to push a score artificially that doesn't help in the real world?
    Honestly, a better use of time would be to find the right driver for you... it will make more difference than abusing 3dmark06's biases.
     
  29. v_c

    v_c Notebook Evangelist

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    +1

    Heavily overclocking a laptop gpu isn't a great idea. Heavily overclocking one that is already known to have some quality issues....thats pretty stupid.
     
  30. Jayson S

    Jayson S Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow, so many replies. I think I should leave my laptop at 679/900

    Temperature wise, it isn't bad. Reaches 82C max... But if I press alt+tab, it falls to 50-60 in seconds - very impressive cooling! I only overclock for Crysis anyway lol.

    As far as I'm aware, I can only overclock 2 factors - Core Bus and Memory Bus (xxxMhz / xxxMhz), where are some people coming up with xxxMhz / xxxMhz / xxxMhz in other threads I've seen?

    TBH, I don't think overclocking will destroy my card. I mean, if the 8800GTXs run at about 90C in some laptops without overclocking, then what I'm doing right now should be fine. I don't play for hours and hours, maybe 2 at the max.


    I DID do something stupid the other day though... I set all the overclocking settings to max for a laugh :\ boy, that sure ended up ugly. Thankfull everything is ok now. I then put all settings to minimum and got the same results lol. Me dumb :)
     
  31. Dire NTropy

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    Only problem to watch out for is that the memory bus doesn't have a temperature monitor. The temperature you get for the GPU is for the core. Many times the core temperature has been fine while the memory fried.

    900 Memory is pretty high, so just be careful.
     
  32. JWest

    JWest Master of Notebookery

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    I'm thinking of getting a cooler myself. Is the Zalman NC2000 any good?
     
  33. BenLeonheart

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    dont monitor GPU temp, monitor the CPU...

    and see what temp it gets when the game starts to stutter?
     
  34. yellafella321

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    Vista? Xp? Drivers? I'll be in the same boat as you so i'd like to know. Also, what program did you use to OC? Thanks! I'll be happy just to hit 5000.
     
  35. 5482741

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    I reached 5053 with my G1S at standard resolution, it doesn't look like I can go much further.