The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Recommendation on Games...

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Southpaw, May 8, 2008.

  1. Southpaw

    Southpaw Only a Little Crazy...

    Reputations:
    1,161
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    My M1730 XPS is about to arrive and I plan on grabbing some games for it.

    It only has one 8700M GT, will there be any games that I can't play at all or at stupid low settings like 800x600?

    Second question: what games should I get? I'm looking for some action games, maybe FPS, and maybe WiC...

    Here were some that I've been thinking of...

    Crysis
    WiC
    COD4

    Any other good ones?

    Semi-recent games that I already have...

    Really just Sins of a Solar Empire that is that recent at all....
     
  2. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    You pretty much summed it up yourself! :D

    Also try CNC 3 and Orange Box. :)
     
  3. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,752
    Messages:
    3,141
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Counter Strike: Source is a lot of fun too. An old game but still fun. :)
    Tim
     
  4. boypogi

    boypogi Man Beast

    Reputations:
    239
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    crysis will run like crap on a 8700m ;)
     
  5. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Orange Box and Gears of War are brilliant. Also you might take a look at Bioshock and Stalker if you don't have those already ;)
     
  6. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    i was going to make a thread like this about 8700 SLI, will they be able to play Cyrsis at decent settings and FPS? what would Sins Of A Solar Empire be like?
     
  7. Southpaw

    Southpaw Only a Little Crazy...

    Reputations:
    1,161
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sins runs fine on my current Acer which is terrible, over two years old with a single core CPU.

    What settings do you think I could get with a single 8700M GT on Crysis?
     
  8. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    On my SLI 8800GTX crysis runs quite smooth on al max settings. The maximum you will be able to squeeze out of 8700 SLI is a playable fps on medium settings.
     
  9. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    medium I suppose.
     
  10. Southpaw

    Southpaw Only a Little Crazy...

    Reputations:
    1,161
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    What resolution are you guys talking about though?
     
  11. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    For 8700 SLI I was talking about 1680x1050. But single 8700 won't be able to run crysis at higher, than 1440x900
     
  12. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

    Reputations:
    3,047
    Messages:
    8,636
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    206
    for you to get medium settings with some important settings on high, you will have to hit 1280x800. thats my guess. you could do 1440x900 on low/medium settings.
     
  13. Southpaw

    Southpaw Only a Little Crazy...

    Reputations:
    1,161
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Great that sounds good.
     
  14. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

    Reputations:
    3,886
    Messages:
    11,104
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    456
    Southpaw,your system is designed to house 2 8800M GTX, so 1 8700M GT can be OCed beyond redemption.
    You can take it to 700/1800/1800 easily...
     
  15. Zee_Ukrainian

    Zee_Ukrainian Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    64
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I would disagree. I'm running Crysis with a single 8700M GT. Resolution is at 1650X1050 with all settings on medium, and objects on high. Runs smoothly. I could also run it at 1280X720 with all settings on high (there is also Very High, but I can't use that.) Anti-Aliasing is also turned off.

    As far as games go, you should also think about getting Unreal Tournament 3, the new Alone in the Dark (June Release), and Assassin's Creed (this one requires more than Crysis though). :cool:
     
  16. Shadowmancer1988

    Shadowmancer1988 Newbie

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Should try the Orange Box, it has 7 games in it, also since the games run on the source engine your laptop will be able to play at high settings and a high resolution, on steam now its $39.99 also try Trackmania Nations Forever its free!
     
  17. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Aye, I forgot about those games :) Assasin's Creed is very good. Even tho, I have to disagree about its system requirements. It runs smooth on max settings 1920x1200 on my notebook, crysis doesn't ;) Probably the problem is crysis's poor support for SLI...
     
  18. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Actually, Assassin's Creed works maxed out at WUXGA on my laptop with T9300 and single 8800M GTX as well.... and obviously Crysis does not! :)
     
  19. Southpaw

    Southpaw Only a Little Crazy...

    Reputations:
    1,161
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Awesome guys thanks! Looks like I have a lot of gaming in front of me! :D
     
  20. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,200
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    here is my story,
    Assassin's Creed, 1920x1200, all max, 2xAA (if I remember correctly), 40+fps, looks even better than xbox 360
    Crysis, 1280x1024, all max, 2xAA, 35fps

    did you just say assassin's creed has higher hardware requirement? :eek:
     
  21. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

    Reputations:
    523
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Must Have List!
    Bioshock
    Orange Box
    COD4
    Far Cry
    Tomb Raider Legend

    Good Fun List
    FEAR
    Quake 4
    Prey
    Doom 3
    UT3
    MOHA

    If it's really cheap list
    Gears of War
     
  22. ryo1000

    ryo1000 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    94
    Messages:
    723
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    guys guys, don't just say it runs smooth or it works blah blah blah, tell us what fps you have, cuz people have different definitions for those words.
    Here is my recommendations list from 2006 onward

    FPS
    Crysis
    Bioshock
    COD4
    Gears of War if you don't have any problem seeing lots of blood spilling out

    RTS
    World in Conflict
    Company of Heros and Company of Heros :Opposing Fronts
    Command&Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath
    Medieval II Total War and its expansion Kingdoms
    Supreme Commander and its expansion Forged Alliance

    RPG
    The Witcher
    Elder Scrolls IV:Oblivion and the two expansion packs
    Assassin's Creed
    Age Of Conan

    If you like WWII games like me :D i would also recommend
    Medal of Honor:Airborne(FPS)
    Silent Hunter 4:Wolves of the Pacific (Submarine Sim)
    Blazing Angels 1 and 2 (Flight Sim)
    IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 (Flight Sim)

    Also games to look forward to
    Far Cry 2(FPS)
    Starcraft II(RTS)
    Red Alert 3(RTS)
    Grand Theft Auto 4(RPG?)
    Prototype (RPG)

    Make sure you go to gamespot.com and read the reviews before you buy those games
     
  23. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

    Reputations:
    523
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Oh I almost forgot... TimeShift should be on my Fun list ;)
     
  24. NULL

    NULL Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    22
    Messages:
    230
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    nice list :cool:
     
  25. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    679
    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    An RTS list requires Supreme Commander.
     
  26. ryo1000

    ryo1000 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    94
    Messages:
    723
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ah, you are probably right. Supreme Commander has a 8.7 on Gamespot and 8.5 for its expansion. i added to the list and probably will go buy it over the weekend.

    @NULL
    Thx :p
     
  27. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    679
    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Any game that makes every other game seem out of date the moment it comes out needs to be on such a list.
     
  28. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    if these games can run on MAX then im getting the m1730 with dual 8700s and ill upgrade to dual 8800's later^^ and if it can do crysis on Medium, what do ya guys think, possible?
     
  29. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I would add Stalker Clear Sky to the upcoming wish list ;)
    Yeah, SLI 8800 will run all those games on max settings, except for Far Cry 2. Cause as far as I know, its system requirements are gonna be higher, than Crysis's.
     
  30. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    what about dual 8700's?

    im worried coz from i what i have read, they are crap, is that true?
     
  31. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It's not as fast as 8800. It will let you run all latest titles (except for Crysis) on medium/high settings no problem. It's just that it is positioned as a gaming graphics card, but it's not really. I mean the previous generation 7950 is faster than it. You won't be able to see any DX10 benefits on 8700. Even 8800 sruggles with it.

    Personally I think, that it is a waste of paying so much money for 8700 SLI and getting so little performance out of it, unless you got a very tight budget or not a hardcore gamer.
     
  32. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    well im looking at a XPS m1730 but they come to £1,700+ with 8800's, so i decided that maybe i could get dual 8700's in a m1730 for under a £1000 then upgrade down the line, whatcha think, as it would cost roughly the same as it would if i went right to 8800m's this way i could save up and get 8800m's say 6-12months
     
  33. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    679
    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Maybe worth it to go with a single 8800m and upgrade to SLI later.
     
  34. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    you cant get the m1730 with a single 8800m, if you coudl then i would try and go for it.
     
  35. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    679
    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Can you get a Sager NP9262 then? :)
     
  36. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I know the option is not on the online configurator. But I heard you can call up Dell and place the order than way with a single 8800M GTX. But if you don't want SLi in the first place, why not go with the Sager NP5793 ?
     
  37. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    well i want to upgrade to SLI in the future, any idea how the basic setup of the 8700 SLI model would cost with a single 8800m?
     
  38. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I don't think Dell sells M1730 with single 8800.
    Yeah, upgrading later on down the line sounds good. Dell will introduce an upgrade programm at some point as promissed.
     
  39. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    679
    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    But from what I've seen around this forum, Dell's upgrades are hideously overpriced.
     
  40. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    yeah thats what i heard, about only being able to use dual 8800's , so you think it would be a good idea to go for the Dell instead of say the Sager, if i want to upgrade to dual 8800m's i the future?

    will it be able to Quad Core M

    is it even called that? i add the M for Mobile^^, im not sure what its actual name is^^
     
  41. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    would i have to get the upgrades from them?
     
  42. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    for(i=0;i<=999;i++)
    {
    *sigh*;
    *facepalm*;
    }

    At this rate, you're never getting a laptop.... you've already been answered that question and similar questions by me and others NUMEROUS times EACH!
     
  43. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    what? about the Quad Core M question? or the other question, i was asking DDT5 specifically
     
  44. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Dude... I completely remember answering that question... and *sigh* ... here we go again.... no! The current Intel motherboards won't support the newer to-be-released quad core processors, due to a different socket and chipset (Montevina). Then again gaming is GPU intensive not CPU intensive (much).... so it shouldn't matter.... a dual core with 8800 is FAR more future proof gaming-wise than say a quad core or octa core with 8600....
     
  45. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    oh now i rememebr, but that was for a different laptop so i had to check.
     
  46. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    1,804
    Messages:
    4,956
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Man, get it straight already... they're all using the same Intel chipsets with the same processors (but different GPU MXM standards, as in the case of Dell, upgradeability-wise), so it's going to be the same story everywhere.... Weren't you gonna go with the Novatech X80r Pro ?

    Wait... I don't even wanna know!..
     
  47. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105

    ^^

    yeah i was but decided that i wanted something with dual 8800m's instead
    right now i understand ^^
     
  48. DDT5

    DDT5 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    496
    Messages:
    572
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yeah, I agree with Prasad about the quad core mobile CPUs.
    Dell's upgrade programm shouldn't be too expensive. What you've heard is probably the prices people get from Dell parts on 8800 SLI atm....and yeah, it is about 1800 baks, so no point of getting it :) But when the actual programm will be introduced, I expect them to be about 600 baks.

    To upgrade sager's 8700 to 8800 you need to change the whole motherboard, so this is not an option ;) Even tho they introduced new lappy with 8800 with a future support of 9800, which is prietty cool, but the laptop is not out yet.
     
  49. Zee_Ukrainian

    Zee_Ukrainian Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    64
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Ok, I just want to clear the thing up with Assassin's Creed. From what I read on system requirements, AC asked for higher specs as compared to Crysis. I have Crysis, but haven't played AC, so I cannot say for sure.

    As cards go, 8700M GT is a good card. It actually performs better than I thought it would. If one has the option to get an 8800M, go for that. Don't get 8700M SLI unless it's not possible to swtich to 8800M. I got my laptop last September, so I did not have an option for an 8800 at that time.

    :rolleyes:
     
  50. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    well i think i will go with dual 8700's as they could be had for about £1,000 and then upgrade to dual 8800m's in like 6months the prices should be down quite a bit by then

    its either i get it with dual 8700's or not at all, i dont understand why they dont offer it with a single 8800m though?
     
 Next page →