Rivatune Temperatures on 8600M GT, with drivers and dell. (XPS M1530)

I have an 8600M GT DDR3 in an XPS M1530

Okay, So I have been playing oblivion quite a lot, but i got a little concerned that my unofficial drivers (169.25 from LV2G) could change the temp of my GPU, so i donwloaded ntune to check the temperatures. I was running about 63-70 degrees surfing the web/idle, and peaked at 82 degrees while gaming (with high settings & low fps). I then decided to use Rivatuner, for a second opinion, and that showed up 83 degrees peak.

I changed back to the latest dell drivers, 156.63. The idle temperatures seem to be similar to before at about 66 degrees, but the game only maxed out at 80 degrees.

I know that another person has reported temperatures of 100 degrees on this laptop and his was a dud. I also know Asus users feel that 100 degrees is okay.

But are these temperatures too high for an M1530? I havent found anything definative to answer this. Also, does using unnofficial modded INF drivers void dells service warranty?

And can rivatuner or ntune change the clock settings without you knowing or allowing it?

 

169 series runs notoriously hot, try the 174 series.

 

My clock speeds were dipping in wierd downward spikes today, on rivatuner... its not messing with my clock speeds is it?

 

it will downclock dynamically if your not doing anything. It will go back up depending on the load you put

 

If you don't have the 9-cell battery, make sure you're playing on a hard surface and put something under the back of the laptop to prop it up off the desk a little bit (without covering the fan vents). Raising the back of mine off my desk lowered temperatures by 5-10C while gaming. 80C is about what I got with the laptop flat on the desk, I mostly manage 70-76C now.

 

cheers, yeah its also on a bit of a squishy table surface (card table). Is rivatune downclocking my card? cos i didn't ask it too, also, it was spiking down then going up and down in even intervals... is that also normal?

 

bump.... help anyone?

 

Most of the temperature increase using the laptopvideo2go driver is due to the driver lacks the support for powermizer, which causes higher temperature during 2D use. You have vista, you can also try setting the power plan to Power saving or balanced when you are not gaming, that will activate powermizer if it is enabled by the driver.

 

174.16 has power mizer enabled, at least mine does. Normal web browsing my card (Keep in mind it's DDR2 so it'll run a bit cooler) is ~ 43-47 C. My stock clocks are 475 core / 400 memory and even running at 600 core / 500 memory I still idle under or just around 50 C, peak so far I've hit is 67 C.

Also, I run my laptop with the battery out so it runs much cooler.

 

i wonder if other M1530 users get these temperatures?

 

I use I8KFanGui to control my fans so that keeps my system cooler so that's also in play.

But M1530's run much hotter than Vostro and Inspiron systems because of the DDR3 edition of the card.

 

I'm using 174.74 drivers and without even an overclock my ASUS Geforce 9500M GS hits temperatures of 87c while gaming.

 

^ Mmm yeah. While playing CS: Source I average around 87 - 92c. It puzzles me, but maybe it's because I play it on absolute max power (the laptop). I hope it's not too damaging, especially if it's frequent like that when playing. Maybe I'll tone down the power usage.

 

are you on an M1530?

I am using windows update drivers, and the card is running at 77-78 on oblivion. It goes up to 72 on idle :/

 

So what driver version is that?

 

156.63, actually i went back to the dell drivers again, but still getting the same problem with 72 degrees idle.

 

I have an M1530 and my 8600M GT got up to 79C while playing COD4 on max settings, hope thats normal

 

What drivers are you using?

 

Your temperatures are perfectly normal.

I've found that normal GPU temps for M1530 are...
Idle: 60~70C
Load: 70~80C

If you're inside or close to that range, there is likely no problem with your cooling. Although 72C idle is slightly above the average, it isn't unreasonably so. Mine will go up to 70C before the fan kicks in and cools it back down, 2 degrees isn't a huge difference there.

 

Hey sweetStyles: Your laptop temperatures are way too high. I have the exact same 1530 laptop and it used to run that hot because either my motherboard or my heatsink/fan was malfunctioning. I got Dell to get me new hardware and now my temperatures are 20 degrees lower.

Get Dell to replace your hardware!

And those high temps will screw up your game performance. When the temps reach 92 degrees the video card will force a performance drop so it won't fry.

 

^ I see, I'll go through a few procedures to make sure it's not just a driver problem, then we'll see if it needs replacing. Thanks for the heads up.

(BTW. This notebook is fairly new > ASUS M51Sn Had it for 3 weeks which is why I'm so worried. Apparently 169 drivers are hot, could I get some insight?)

 

I'm using the 174.74 driver.

UPDATE: also, now with COD4 on max settings I've seen 84C and my ACPI temp has gotten up to a burning 85C! I hope this isn't damaging anything.

 

I've used the M51Sn as will and with every driver the temperature's at around 84-87c while gaming. I guess that's normal for this notebook.

 

For my m1530, I use the official dell 174.31 driver, overclocked to 550/825. I idle at around 60 degrees, and hit high 70s during long gaming periods, usually peaking at 82 degrees. These temperatures do feel high, since I use a laptop cooler as well, and I hope nothing blows up lol. I can feel the fan working though, put your hand behind the vent and it can feel scary hot sometimes.

 

^^ I see, 84-87 ey? I max, sometimes average out at 90-92c, it's very strange. It's only CS:Source too, max settings, HD off. well I'll get to the bottom of it, hopefully.

 

When you do, let me know also.

 

I'm using a Macbook Pro which is nortorious for throwing out heat like mad, but it doesn't seem as hot as I thought it is when compared to the XPS M1530 and Asus notebooks.... (which are like the main 2 gaming notebooks)

Anyway, on a wooden table surface, my temperatures used to idle at about 70 C when idling, and peaked at around 86 C when gaming while using 169.04 drivers. After upgrading to 174.74 drivers, temperatures dropped to 66 C while idling, but still peaks at 86 C.

I think the climate that you're in affects the temperature too. When I use my notebook in school which has air-con, my temperatures drop by 5 - 10 C. Haven't tried gaming in school yet though.

 

I use 174.74 on my 8600mGT, While heavy gaming around 2-3 hours or so, I get around 83-85 C, overclocked @ 555/802

 

My laptop was brand new too and had the overheating problem. I think it's a manufacturing problem. Talk to the dell tech support and they will get you some new hardware. I am now almost problem free and my games run a lot smoother.

 

Update: I updated my graphics driver to 174.74, and she's working like a charm now. FPS up by at least 30%, and the temp I'm quite happy with maxing at 84, average around 79 - 82. Even averaged as low as 77 - 79. BTW using nTune to log temps.

Still don't understand why 169.47 ran so hot. Oh well, it's the past now

 

Yo sweet I still think you have a hardware problem. 77 degrees C is pretty hot for a low temperature. I have the exact same 1530 model as you and my temperature range is from 54-72max degrees C.

I dunno exactly what those hotter temperatures would do but I think its best to keep things as cool as possible for the computer.

 

You got a 30% FPS boost lol... was that with overclocking?

 

I can't find 174.74 from Laptopvideo2go.com. Where did you find it?

 

It's in the Forums Ian.

And to the OP, your temps are fine. At idle I go from 54c-65c. Gaming can get up to 79c (but that is OC'd). I am using 175.70 right now, but they do seem to run it a weee bit warmer. So I will try something else.

 

Im running Rightmark Cpu clock utility and since usually you can select the three power options, this program give you a fourth selection power on demand, which varies core clock speeds based on program demand. Now my average temperature is around 55 and goes up to about 70 while OCed when gaming. +D

 

I made several tests yesterday, here there are the results:

Configuration:

Intel C2D T9300
3Gb Ram 667 (2*1Gb + 1*1Gb)
Hitachi 160Gb Free Fall Sensor 7200 RPM
Geforce 8600m GT 256Mb DDR3 (Default @ 475/900/700) Driver 175.12

Ambient Temperature: 24°C

GPU Idle: 56°C - 60°C
CPU Idle: 39°C - 45°C

GPU Load @ Default: 73°C (Peak)
CPU Load: 61°C (Peak)

GPU Load @ 700/1625/940: 81°C (Peak)
CPU Load: 62°C (Peak)

I broke the wall of 8000+ points record on 3dmark06 (1024*768 PP Off) with a PRE-SP1 system and reached 6600+ with 1280*800 PP On, never going over 81°C (At higher frequencies the GPU drops down at Low 3D frequencies, so probably it's a power supply problem, not a temps one as far as I haven't seen any artifacts).

Screens (I hadn't Rivatuner opened on top but I monitored through the Statistic Server + OSD)

3DMark06 1024*768 PP Off | 3DMark06 1280*800 PP On

 

Extreme clock speeds you have. Specially the shaders.

What is your best score at 1280x1024? That seems to be the most common settings used.

 

Can you actually game at those clocks? Or just run 3dmark? I have the issue where I can 3dmark at crazy high clocks, but gaming I cannot even come close.

 

The only issue is about the shaders frequency, i have to lower it at 1500mhz, btw all the rest seems to be stable while I play

Edit: @ SonDa5: actually i can't test the score with the default resolution because my lcd is limited to 1280*800, but i'm going to try it with an external monitor as soon as I can

 

Man, I need to find out why I cannot actually game with being OC'd. I can OC just a little bit. After that I just get hard reboots.

 

Been reading this thread and reading around the forum for tips on OC'ing my dell xps 1530.

Duo core 2 2,10ghz T8100 fsb 800
3gb ram
Geforce 8600m GT 256 ddr3
5400 rpm hdd

Using 174.74 driver.

Score before OC was 4065.

I'm getting 3dmark06 score of 5395 with following settings in rivatuner: 685/1370/960
Temp is peaking @ 74celsius, but this is just from running test 1 time, no loop yet.
Image is crystal clear, no artifacts or blurs.

Just wondering if I should be satisfied with the result and if I should keep getting higher, or will it risk my GPU getting killed, so to speak ?

What do you guys think ?

Cheers for a great forum! Learned alot from reading in here!

 

If the performance is enough, and the temp is still below the danger limit, I`d sugest keeping it as a safety measure.

 

Agree with eleron. Leave it untill you soak up a bit more knowlege from NBR before pushing your laptop to it's limits

 

You saying as long as it doesnt exceed the danger limit, what is the limit?

Read the rivatuner guide and it showed while using 3dmark06 a peak temp of 77C but only briefly, around 70-74 most of the time when running the tests.
Also red the guide on how to tweak vista, can tell I got a bit more out of it so nice one there
New score 5502

Also on a different note, is there no easier way to get the temp icon in tray to pop up automatically when Rivatuner statistics server is started ? or do I have to go open it manually through rivatuner every time?

Thanks again!

 

Each individual card has it's own limit. If you really want to push it then you will have to find it yourself, very carefully. It's also a very time consuming thing to do as it involves increasing each clock in very small increments and running stress tests each time.

Personally i would prefer to spend that time enjoying games on my laptop.

 

3d marks never pushed my card as much as cod4 for example, I'd suggest you go play for 1 hr and see the temps after that.

 

Willy S love your avatar, that dude is scary man! lol!

But yeah, that's kinda how I got to the point i'm at atm, by increasing clock speed by 10, and testing, I still need to do some game tests
I don't have cod4 but Assassins Creed, hope it will stress the graphics enough

Thanks!

 

85C is considered a max temp for GPUs if you take care of the laptop,clean the dust and run it on a notebook cooler.

 

Yeah I would suggest real gaming when testing a OC. I can run 3dmark for hours at a high OC (like 675/900), but try to play a game like TF2 for a minute and computer reboots.