*SPOILERS* Starcraft II Ending Thread

Wow seriously, the campaign alone was worth the $60. I knew Blizzard didn't let me down. I've been a fan of their games since Warcraft Orcs and Humans. HIGHLIGHT BELOW FOR SPOILERS

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Wow so Kerrigan is back to being Human? But can she still control the Zerg? Because Zeratul was saying how she needed to be alive in order for them to combat the Xel'Naga, but technically isn't she dead now?
I actually can't wait for the next installment! What'd everyone think!

 

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Ahh thanks just did that now. Just for reference, i tried playing every level on brutal. If I had to restart 3 times, then I would switch to hard, if I restart 4 times on hard, I switched to normal. Brutal was ridiculously hard.

 

I played through on normal, was pretty easy but I did mess up the first time I played the fire wall mission and also the first time I did the last hold out mission.

I missed the "hidden" stage and not sure the best way to go back and beat the others to get the "beat all 29 stages" achievment.

If I start a new campaign Id have to do it all over again but I guess thats probably the best way so I can get the other achievments like purchase all mercenaries or purchase all armory upgrades.

I only got like 2 mercs and the rest was in the armory and I was missing a lot of armory stuff at end game, so I wonder how your supposed to buy all the armory stuff in one playthrough. I dont think I missed but one artifact to sell and one bonus mission.

Now that I am playing multiplayer I dont think I will bother to go back to single player anyways achievments dont actually do anything for you other than some of them unlocking avatars, but there are many avatars to unlock in multiplayer so I would rather get my skills up there.

I did go back to campaign with a save to get the lost viking arcade game achievements. I got the highest one gold @ 500k points. I was at 775k points before I died (lvl 17 or 18 I think) shame I lost all 3 of my guys back to back in one area because I think I just got fatigued and tired of playing. I even had like 16 bombs when I died.

 

I just finished the game yesterday playing through all the missions on brutal. Breezed through the first half of the mission pretty easily with the only occasional restart. The second half of the mission got consistently harder and each one I almost always had to restart 1-4 times.

 

Played the mission on Hard and sometimes normal if i dont get it right at first but mostly all on Hard.

Now When will Heart of the swarm be released???

I am also wondering what did the Crystal do?

Made Kerrigan free from her Zergly behavior????

If that was a case then HOS(Heart of the Swarm) would be About Kerrigan learning about the Crystal then learning that Mengsk is behind the Hybrid. Several missions along with the Terran to overthrow Mengsk.

Samir Durran will probably show up after that.

 

I doubt Mengsk is powerful enough to create the hybrid though.

My guess is that the story is twisted from the beginning and xel'naga was always the bad guys. It was said in the campaign that the zerg didn't used to be like this, their genetic code somehow just got altered to behave like that, probably the xel'naga realized what an fail they created and want to end it all, enslaving the zerg to destroy everything.

I suspect Kerrigan still maintains control on the zerg, and heart of the swarm will be about Kerrigan and Raynor on the zerg's side, using the zerg's army to destroy Mengsk/prevent xel'naga from using hybrid etc, then protoss's campaign will be their fight against the hybrid in the end, and this time they won, because of something Kerrigan did to alter the supposed future, and then you will have an intro to starcraft III, where the xel'naga is back in full power and the races must unite to fight them off or something, Oh, wait, reminds you of something??? like another -craft with World of -??? Perfect scenario to implement a MMORPG for starcraft, with 3 races no longer solely fighting each other, with a common enemy - the xel'naga, compared to WoW, with 2 races no longer solely fighting each other, with common enemy of burning legion and the scourge.

 

Well it said the Overmind itself was imprisoned and could not stop the Zerg. I'm wondering how Samir Duran fits into all this as he was the one working on the hybrids in Starcraft: Brood War. Honestly my favorite level was the Overmind's prophecy of the end. Ridiculously fun level.

 

Now I'm really starting to see a link between starcraft and warcraft.

Terran - Human
Protoss - Orcs. Both came in out of nowhere and attacked terran/human, later on made peace due to one person on each side- Raynor-the-guy-who-killed-overmind-forgot-his-name-lol/Jayna-Thrall.
Zerg - Forsaken. Both of them don't have their own free will, until some later on recuited zerg/undead such as Kerrigan/Sylvanus regained freewill and gained control.

Now, making zergs being in peace with the other 2 factions, so that players can create account in all 3 factions, and having a common enemy of xelnaga so that they can raid something together for the lootz - what's better than this in making starcraft franchise MMORPGable, especially since WoW is lasting for a bit too long and running out of money to milk and Activision-Blizzard needs their next billiondollar-maker of a MMORPG.

 

I think Mengsk and Durran are somehow working together.

I dont think Xel Naga was really bad BUT they want revenge for what the overmind did to them(which is destroying them).

The story though pretty much you and i predicted.

SC 3 will be most likely the whole force of Xel naga the 4th race.

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You should try Halo universe

Terran-Humans
Zerg-Flood
Covenant-Protoss
Forerunner-Xel naga

 

Lol what? Hows the tinfoil hat treating you? Cause damn that was alot of bull. And since when is wow not their most profitable game? Christ people really need to get over whatever rage they have with blizzard and learn to respect good quality games.

 

That was an awesome campaign. Loved the ending and esp the rain scene on char.

 

I don't think she's been just simply turned back into a normal human, more like her human side is now in control. The fact that she still has tentacle hair in the final scene is a strong hint at this.

There's no way in hell kerrigan could have saved them if the zerg side of her was still in control because it's assumed she was under the Xel'nagas influence just like the overmind since a "normal" zerg shouldn't have any drive to be a genocidal psychopath.

The protoss calling her "the queen of blades" and not Kerrigan when discussing the prophecy doesn't mean anything. That's just what they normally would have called her.

 

Didn't say it's a bad game, just said how it reminds of warcraft franchise's storyline before WoW hits. WoW is their most profitable game currently, but Blizzard has already killed off almost every lore character of warcraft, even cataclysm is kind of pushing it lore wise with arthas dead. The expansions are going to end somewhere in terms of lore and they know it, so it isn't too farfetched to assume they are preparing SC storyline for MMORPG play as well. Not like I'm against it, WoW is great gameplay wise, and I would play world of starcraft if it ever comes.

 

"Stars of Starcraft?"

 

That is why we discussed that Heart of the Swarm would be about Kerrigan and raynor Against Mengsk and maybe Durran since the Scret Mission in WOL shows that Mengsk is also researching hybrids.

 

I bet Tychus is still alive. You can't just kill your best friend like that. Bros before hos dawg.

Im thinking the two eggs develop into a zealot and ling and become key characters, but ones that receive a lot of backlash at least.
Tosh (for me at least), will sabotage the ship in a later mission.
With the Zerg lacking a commander there ranks begin to dwindle.
Kate Lockwell starts a talk show.

 

Oh did you guys know that Nova is the Main Character is Starcraft Ghost?

 

Yes, she's the main character in the Starcraft Ghost novel.

 

I am waiting for her game though

 

I'm guessing that Duran assassinated Mengsk and disguised himself as Mengsk, and that's why "Mengsk" was able to have that lab with the hybrid, someone even said that not even Mengsk could have the technological know-how to produce the hybrids.

And it would explain why "Mengsk" sent Tychus in to kill Kerrigan as she's the only one who could stop their plans even though sending Tychus to pair up with Raynor has damaged "Mengsk"s reputation so much.

 

What was the whole role of the artifacts and do they relate to the hybrids?

 

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Started out as payed jobs for Tychus from the Moebious people which turned out to be Arcturus' son who wanted to prove he was better than his father.

I think they also work in reverse as to what they did to Kerrigan. Whereas they can destroy said race, they can also create it i.e. hybrid

 

This.

I'm pretty sure Tychus is still alive. Rule of thumb: If they don't die on screen, never assume they're dead, because chances are, they're still alive. Added to the fact that Matt Horner and Raynor talked to each other about Tychus' dangerous suit, I wouldn't be surprised if Horner found some flaw in the suit and that's where Raynor shot it so Tychus wouldn't die, but would be safe from the suit's self destruct mechanism.

Raynor's not the type to kill someone he's had history with (see: Sarah Kerrigan).

 

Very good point

 

Char was just a setback.

 

Maybe if you guys tried reading once in a while, you wouldn't be spewing completely non-canon BS. On the home screen, after you beat the campaign, it states explicitly that Tychus Findly is dead. No ifs, buts, ands, ors: Dead. Tell me that isn't canon and I'll laugh at you.

 

Yeah, ol' Tychus is dead as far as i'm concerned.

I wonder which one of the optional missions will be considered canon though, is Tosh still alive and the specters free or did Raynor side with Nova (in which case Tosh is definitely dead), same with the colonist missions.

Or the story line in the next campaign could differ a bit depending on the choices you made a bit like in ME2 (that would be awesome but i somewhat doubt it).

 

I'll prove it

1. Who kills a major character like that? A last second game changer that blows away a best friend, all behind a blank screen? Hmm...pretty fishy
2. It's Blizzard we're talking about. Char was merely a setback! - Tychus Findlay
3. We are down a "grunt" character so to speak. We have the

Captain - Raynor
Comic Relief - Swann
Wimpy nerd - Stentmann
Hot babe thats-in-a-complicated-relationship-with-main-character-and-everything-depends-on-her - Kerrigan
Hot babe that-the-player(us)-likes-but-you-don't-know-what-she-is-on-because-she-seems-interested-in-main-character-but-can't-commit-so-she-comes-back-in-a-sequel - Nova
Smart but headstrong wannabe captain sidekick - Matt
Big buff shoot em up best friend - _______
Good-guy-gone-bad-that-also-come-back-in-sequel-to-mess-up-storyline-but-sees-the-error-of-their-ways-later-and-helps-the-good-side-in-a-final-fight - Tosh
Down to earth, sensitive, passionate girl - ...the doctor lady
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Not many game companies are brave enough to venture out of the realm of a cliche story when millions of dollars hang in the balance.

He's not dead...and if he is, well then I owe you a drink.

Oh, so you do know

 

Call me crazy, but I think that putting it explicitly on screen that Tychus is dead is another sign that he's alive.

Just sayin'

 

I highly doubt it given that he's dead (again, no ifs, ands ors, and this time it's shown on screen, happy?) if you chose the Nova mission. I'll also owe you a drink if he happens to show up in the 2nd or 3rd game (which then begs the question: How the hell did he come back to life? Well, I'm sure Blizzard can come up with some off-shoot lore to explain that if they need him to be part of the story).

 

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Oh yeah good point. I forgot he had the option of to kill or not...hm that changes things slightly

 

Well, him dying is not absolute so they can still go on and they say "siding with Tosh was the true story"

 

The whole trilogy will end with Raynor having to find 3 more artifacts, and it'll turn out that they have an element associated to each of them, fire, earth, wind, water, but in order to destroy the xel'naga for good, they must activate Kerrigan as The Fifth Element (Now in a home theatre near you)

 

raynor = willis, huh?

 

In doing so, Kerrigan will die, and Raynor will hold her hand while she dissipates into the lifestream. Oh wait...

 

was a great game, finished it on casual LOL (I play racing, FPS and RPGs on hardest settings, but this was my first RTS)

I'll play again on normal to see the other branches

 

Im replaying on Hard right now to get all the achievments.

Im about 50% done, some of the achievements are very hard to get even if beating the stage is easy.

I am debating playing through on Brutal again to get the last of the achievements when I am done, I have a feeling Brutal will be easier since I only have to clear the stage and not worry about any kind of achievement but cant say for sure until I try.

 

It will still be brutal but if you play using your already finished campaign, you have access to your whole arsenal. The "toys" you didn't have back then sure come in handy at times.

EDIT: It's true that it will be easier than trying to get some of the achievements like the one in the last mission where you can't use the artifact more than once. I don't really like defend your base type missions... The protoss one was okay though but i was still ~100 kills short.

 

I recently started brutal and got the 5 mission achieve, but yeah it's pretty rough, I haven't even thought of continuing my old campaign but I think I'm going to do that, I started a new one for each difficulty for whatever reason but I think I need those perks earlier rather than later

 

when you replay you only have what you had at the time, you cant replay when you beat the game and have all your end game stuff on lvl 1. so its the same as restarting except if you had stuff on easy that you didnt get on hard/brutal an you can skip around.

I have every achievement almost now except brutal campaign, the night raid, and I think thats it.

Oh and for some reason it did not give me the normal campaign achievement for beating it on hard, most achievements let you get them if on a harder difficulty but the beat all 29 missions ones for each difficulty must be one on that difficulty.

I can go back and just play the few missions on normal that I did not beat (the missions where you pick a path and the secret one)

 

You are not crazy

Even the character that died on WC3 got "magical" resurrected in WOW

So Tychus not dead is not crazy.

 

Did anyone notice that Dr. Narud, is simply Duran backwards?

Also Kerrigan says that she knows about Narud and what he is doing. So I'm guessing Narud is Duran.

 

Great game. Almost perfect, I only wished the missions had better objectives. I'm a turtle, and most of the missions had you running around and improvising; I especially hated the safe haven mission. And LOL at all the popular culture references in the game, such as the iPistol add (rofl) or when you click the terran marine multiple times (Time to kick *** and chew gum!)

I'm also BAFFLED at the ERSB rating of this game. Teen? seriously? How is that possible..?

 

Hey, Hydralisk brains are not HUMAN brains! SO IT'S OKAY! Blow their heads off! It's not human

 

Of course, it should be alright as long as there aren't human organs or parts flying around and creating a bloody mess. I demand a T rating for Classic Doom!

 

Now that you mention it when the Marines get sliced by a Zealot/Dark Templar they get sliced in half. Sometimes the bloody mess of a bottom half walks around while the top half is on the ground. But I guess no internal organs are flying around, so it's all good

 

It's probably the same person, and Duran is probably a Xel'naga, or some creation of Xel'naga, and everything fits into place then.

 

just beat it today, awesome! Gotta go back and beat the 3 missions and then maybe off and on do some hard mode.