Screen Tearing - Asus G73

Guys, I'm getting screen tearing in all games I play.It's happening only with me, I've already checked on Asus G73 threads. Sometimes Vsync solves the problem,like in Dragon Age,but sometimes not, like in Battlefield Bad Company 2.
However, when I turn Vsync on in Dragon Age,FPS down.I get 50 FPS with Vsync off and 30 with Vsync on.
I already checked my temperatures and they are normal.Already tried another drivers too.I just don't know why is this happening only with me, no G73 owner had this issue.
How can I solve screen tearing?
Any thoughts?

 

can you try and set vsync on globally thu the ati control anel?

 

Yes, I already tried that, but its the same,isn't? The FPS will drop just like if I activate Vsync inside the game!?!?

 

yes it will. vsync will always lead to an fps drop.
but if you set it globally you may be able to solve your screen tearing issues

 

It doesn't make sense. It happens only at games,so, I should just activate Vsync inside the game! No need to activate it globally,because it will be the same,like you said.
I just want to know if there's something to do to stop tearing without using Vsync.Its happening only with me,so,it should be a software problem.Just dunno...
Maybe someone who already had this problem and solved it could tell me what he did...

 

what kind of games are you playing?

 

I just tried 3 games.
Tearing is happening in all.
The 3 games are:
Dragon Age
Battle Field BC2
Call of Duty MW2

It happens in Resident Evil 5 benchmark too.

 

well afaik tearing occurs when your gpu rendering doe not match your monitors refresh rate which i assume is 60hz.
it could be that your card is rendering it faster than 60hz , in that case you should be happy ;or your monitors refresh is lower than 60hz .
what did guys in the asus forum say? theyre usually v good at solving stuff like this

 

They don't have much to say...They told me to post here in the Games thread. No one is having this problem .It's weird because I don't get 60 FPS in any of these games,only on MW2 ( wich tearing is happening lower than in the others )

My monitor refresh rate is set to 60Hz on CCC and on Windows display configs.No other option is available,only 60Hz.

 

the only thin i know of that causes sreen tearing is a desync caused by a faster gpu or a slower monitor
well are you sure its screen tearing?
maybe you should post a vid

 

Its tearing because Vsync solves it in Dragon Age...
Its just like this: http://www.overclock.net/attachment...6-screen-tearing-overclocked-cpu-ggdsg_19.jpg

It happens very fast,but we can see it.

 

thats normal tearing
as long as it doesnt look like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJyH4Lu8U1U

just turn on vsync but of course u will loose some fps and theres nothing you can do about that

 

Tearing still happening after reformat...

 

Thats not tearing,those are artifacts problem...
Take a look at the comments

 

''just turn on vsync but of course u will loose some fps and theres nothing you can do about that''
Is that true?
I'm really sad now...I thought G73 would be a beast,but its not working properly...

 

ur tearing happens when your rendering rate is faster than your refresh rate.
that means your gpu is fast, why are yu complaining

 

Why is this just happening with me?
All G73 owners have the same GPU and the same monitor.
Besides, I don't get even 60FPS,so,I don't know if my GPU is faster.

 

Vsync almost solves 100 per cent tearing on RE5 benchmark.
I can see it,but much less than with vsync off.
Shouldn't Vsync solve all tearing?
Maybe is it another problem?

 

well laptops and their components can vary somewhat even in the same models, thats normal.
afaik tearing usually happens when the gpu is rendering faster than the refresh of the monitor.
im not si sure if the reverse can happen, that is tearing when the gpu is rendering slower than the refresh.
sometimes vsync cannot get rid of tearing a 100%, that is normal

 

so...did he get it fixed...

 

no idea...
seemed like he was ranting more than anything

 

hummmmmmmm

 

Yeah G73 gets insane FPS in the games you listed there. I was getting close to 70 FPS in Dragon Age. MW2 imagine even higher.

Using V-Syng through Catalyst would solve it. If you play a game where you don't need it, turn it off. It's literally two mouse clicks on the taskbar icon. It's not a big deal, right?

 

One thing I'd like to add if it helps, he said in another thread that he gets screen tearing when running the RE5 benchmark. That is not normal with the G73 or even a dual 4870 system. He also complained about hard lock ups with a black screen and white strips when OC'ing.

 

Did he try without frap running in background ? Maybe there are some problem when running frap and the new 10.3 driver !?

 

if he did...we havent seen a screen shot of it. since fraps does take pictures.

 

I`m back.
Yes, I tried RE5 Benchmark before intsalling Fraps and I get the tearing.

70 FPS on Dragon Age? I didn`t get it, even with OC. I get 60 FPS,but I don`t remeber if it was OClocked or Stock when I got 60FPS.
Maybe I should just relax and accustom with the tearing,like you guys said.
When are the 10.3 stable drivers going to be finished?

 

This month, and it sounds like they have already started work on 10.4 for APril release.

 

so are you also experiencing lock ups and white strips during o/cing as mandrake said?

 

yes, he was....

 

well if he is experiencing this in o/c settings that normally work o other g73's there could be an issue somewhere.
what do you guys think?

on a side note, he also mentioned that he didnt get much help in the asus forum which i find hard to believe...

 

That's because we told him to RMA it but we said this without actually seeing the problem ourselves.

 

I didn`t say that.
I said they told me to post here.

''They don't have much to say...They told me to post here in the Games thread. No one is having this problem .It's weird because I don't get 60 FPS in any of these games,only on MW2 ( wich tearing is happening lower than in the others )''

 

well with the tearing issue, although i wouldnt call it normal ( no one else has this issue apparently), i would classify it as something of an inconvenience and nothing more.
but with lockups and white strips, it could be something much more.
it could be software and drivers but he did mention reinstalling stuff.
it could be hardware, in which case RMA could be the only solution,

 

ok i stand corrected then...

 

no..we gave him lots of advice to the best of our knowledge...but if it's not fix after a period of time...then next call is to rma.

and this screen tearing comes in many forms...
im running a desktop 5870 and it has tearing, but you have to really be looking to see it. they all tear. i have tried over 20 different cards and they tear...just that it's harder to see it with newer cards, but yet it's still there.

easy test to see it.
run the heaven benchmark and set it to walk through mode and resolution at 1920x1080/ dx10 mode
now walk to the any one of the bridges and stand in the middle
now slowly turn the camera from right to left and look at how the picture moves....that's tearing. but get to running around in high speed and it's harder to tell. put vsync on and it's gone.

and they differ of course...screen tearing is not the same as artifacting

but in his case...it seems to be far noticeable than with most others.

 

OC settings are never standard, everyone elses will differ and if they don't, it is just coincidence. The reason is due to every single GPU differing slightly in some way either in quality or tolerance.

 

Being in South America (iirc) what's the ambient temps like? What kind of temps are you getting from the card?

 

hes from south america?
hmmm ambient temps could be a factor, although he did mention that he monitored them and were within the normal range

 

Guys I was traveling and now I`m back.
Well,I reformated my notebook and tested on my trip. 2 things are oficial: I can`t overclock my GPU. I got that black screen with white stripes after playing 15 minutes.The other thing is: I have tearing.
But,there is another weird thing...
I played MW2 and it run fine (I had to turn Vsync ON inside the game because of the tearing - the Vsync always ON on CCC DIDN`T WORK).I got good FPS even with Vsync ON,like 40~60 (AA OFF),and sometimes 60+ (I repeat,even whith Vsync on,60+ FPS: didn`t understand that). So, MW2 is ok.
But, BC2 is driving me crazy. Vsync just DON`T WORK! The frames per second are good (AA off and HBAO off - is there need for HBAO on?),but I get lots of tearing,even with Vsync on. Besides, I have many ''slow downs'' (I don't know if ''slow down'' is the right term,because FPS doesn't reduce! - weird thing)

MW2 - Good
BC2 - Caos (with good FPS)
Any thoughts?

My temps are good...

 

Sorry to hear you have a lot of tearing but in a way that is normal. I have screen tearing too and some games make it horrible (Borderlands for me... I can't play without vsync!).

Vsync will solve all that but it does cost performance. Try tripple buffering Vsync too, to check if it helps.

 

Why aren't you calling DICE or whoever is the tech support for BC2?

You are assuming this is the fault of Asus and ATi. You do realize that BC2 is a console port and the PS3 I believe does not have an option for V-Sync. Screen tearing in 360 and PS3 is the norm.

 

I don't call them because I live in Brazil,anyway,I'll try an e-mail.As you said,I'm only supposing,I am not affirming.This freaking tearing in BC2 is happening only with me .That's why I'm here asking for your help to find out if it is a software or hardware problem.
I now tearing is normal,but in BC2 it's out of normal.Vsync doesn't fix the problem in BC2 BTW.
About Vsync with trible buffering,do you mean that option on CCC: OpenGL Settings - Triple Buffering?
It's already enabled, unless you're talking about another option...
Do you mean ''tripple buffering Vsync'',like you said, or tripple buffering enabled + Vsync, or both are the same thing?
I don't understand,because Triple Buffering works only on OpenGl right? And for DirectX?
Do I need to download and install DirectX or it comes with Win7?

 

Triple buffering vsync supposedly helps with performance at high resolutions. I think the tripple buffering you are refering to is the common texture filter, but this one is vsync. It comes as double or triple buffering but I have only seen it in few games options (like Left 4 Dead and 2).


anyways if BC is not working with Vsync you have to ask for support with DICE and check your drivers perhaps reinstall them.

 

I'm downloading Assassin's Creed 2 now and I'll see what will happen...
I'm waiting for 10.3 STABLE drivers release too. Maybe it will fix my problem.
I'll test AC2 tonight,is it demanding?

 

Don't force V-sync through drivers. You need to run it through D3DOverrider, with triple buffering.

This goes for Nvidia and ATI users.

 

Sorry, but coul you explain more? Whats taht D3DOverrider?

 

when you say you cannot overclock you mean you cannot do even a mild overclock?

 

I do not think have ever seen no tearing in a system since 5 or 6 years ago with my geforce 5700ultra

I think the problem at hand here is normal slight screen tear that can occur in a high end system is being singled out as a system flaw but its a common thing in many high end systems regardless of gpu/drivers/cpu

Vsync can fix it a lot of times, but not all the time. Also some people are more sensitive to it than others.

 

It sounds like it's defective to me, since you saw the black screen + grey lines crash. A number of people had that issue at power up right out of the box. ATI may have resolved this by now, probably just a few duds in the first batch.

Whether or not this applies to your system, I don't know.