Shogun 2 demo

Seems poorly coded. Runing with new m17x r3 with 460m and only getting around 30 fps average with dips into mid teens at 1920*1080 on high. Lowering to medium and even low maybe adds between 4-5 frames avg. Any other experiences?

 

It runs better on very high for me than Empire or Napoleon ran on high.

 

Maybe it's a driver problem for me. But shouldn't I be at least in the 50's with a 460m and a sandy bridge processor.

 

Recommended Specs (Recommended for optimum game play of Total War: Shogun 2):

- 2nd Generation Intel® Core™i5 processor (or greater), or AMD equivalent
- 2GB RAM (XP), 4GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
- AMD Radeon HD 5000 and 6000 series graphics cards or equivalent DirectX 11 compatible graphics card
- 1280x1024 minimum screen resolution
- 20GB free hard disk space

Your AW exceeds the recommended rig. You shouldn't have any problem with it. Try updating or waiting for the official release. I read about DEMO not supporting AA and other options. If you have forced AA, turn it off.

 

Is the 460m even equal to a 5000 series desktop card?
This is my most awaited game of 2011 and its the reason ive upgraded to a sandybridge 485m.

 

Played Shogun 2 demo, runs fine, didn't really track the frame rate but it's smooth enough for me. Turned everything to max, with AA off. Using 5870MR, which is slightly more powerful than 460M, though Shogun 2 seems to recommend AMD cards so it might be a bit skewed towards that.

 

I seriously need a powerful Clevo before the year is out now, my current laptop has no chance of running the game at all with 4-year old technology.

Hopefully the game will have fewer hardware gnomes than its predecessors.

 

I just don't like how changing settings from high to medium and then even low have negligible difference on frame rate. It's not unplayable but I'm not gonna pay full price for this.

 

Well, total war games were never known to be spec-friendly. 30 FPS is good enough IMO, it's not that easy to get 50 FPS on max settings for any modern game on a notebook GPU, it's not even easy to do that on most desktop GPUs, however high end they are.

 

30 is definitely playable, however, more talented developers make better looking games with better performance engines.

 

im gettin jumps from40-30 and back on my lappy (check sig)
on very high seems all good

 

Well, honestly, I don't know of any game that could match total war's battle scale and detail, while performing better at the same time. It is already state of the art to be able to field so many units with such details, and actually being playable in the first place.

 

I'm not so surprised, why are you? The total war series are always very demanding, even on the strongest gpu in the laptop segments (even a year after the release). And the strongest gpu for laptops atm is the gtx485m, while you only have a 460m. I think you should be very happy with 30 fps tbh...

If anything, the full game might be more demanding than a demo (I had the same thing with mafia2). Ofc you could always just use a lower resolution to have a more fluent gameplay (which imo matters the most right?).

 

Doesn't change the fact that from my experience the engine doesn't scale well. Changes in Rez or settings offer minimal frame gains. Not saying it's unplayable, just think more talented coders could make a more scalable engine.

 

There are few games with as much going on at a time than a Total War game, so I doubt you'll find many people who can "program it better"

Add on the fact that it's an RTS and getting 60 fps isn't necessary, just keeping it above 30 at high settings is outstanding, especially if the game is supposed to prefer AMD and you're using a 460M at 1920x1080

 

I means you probably got a CPU bottleneck.

Not uncommon when there's that many units.

 

yeah. you're cpu blocked. end of story. doesn't speak poorly of the developers, but it does reflect the fact that there are thousands of units interacting in the game at once. the scale is quite large.

if every game needs to scale well to be well designed, then the developers design error was choosing to make a game with the scope that total war has.

 

This seems very logical, though somehow I had playable framerates on my 2ghz intel t7300 core 2 duo (then again I didn't measure them and played AC2 at 5-10 fps when I also thought it ran 'fine' on my 8600m gt xD).

The game also seems a lot faster (I.e. more fluent, faster troops, etc) to me compared to Empire TW. But I think i'm gonna wait with buying this game untill I got a strong desktop. Eventhough shogun2 (the demo atleast) is playable on my laptop (from 2007) you really need to play it at max settings to enjoy its full potential, I think.

 

The troops move faster because now movement commands are set to run by default.

 

The GTX 460m is equivalent to the desktop GTS 450, which was suppose to be a budget oriented DX 11 card that played at optimum performance at 720p, with a monitor resolution roughly 1600x1200 or below as being ideal. Anything higher and you suffer performance. I have the Toshiba X505 Q892, and it makes perfect sense now why Toshiba would make standard the resolution of their gaming flagship series with 1680x945 native resolution, for optimum gaming framerates, especially with the Fermi GTX 460m. Try lowering your resolution and watch the card shine...

 

I always make my troops run, so that can't be the reason ^^

 

Have tryed the demo myself and have no problem in full hd with gtx460 and everything maxed out

 

im not saying its not possible, but that resolution is the sweet spot for optimum performance and ideal framerates

 

Playing perfectly on my M15x at max no AA specs in my sig. Beautiful Beautiful game.

 

So its not buggy ?? Thats gotta be a ca first

 

Yeah it's not buggy, at least for the demo... The AI is not exactly smart though.