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    Should I buy starcraft 2

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by tornbacchus, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. gstboy

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    cool, I played dow, WA, DC, and SS, then stopped when DOW2 came out.
     
  2. Histidine

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    Well don't do that! Chaos Rising was awesome in all kinds of ways! DoW2 Chaos makes DoW1 Chaos look like punk-wannabe pansies!
     
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    DoW 1 still >>>>>>>>>>> DoW 2 IMO, DoW 2 is like the dumbed down version to make it more like 1st person shooter to suit the mass market of first person shooter players, just like what C&C4 did.
     
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    I am craving for that... You should buy it. Starcraft 2 is awesome. I am dying to get one of those. Hope so
     
  5. Ocelot

    Ocelot Notebook Consultant

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    I won't buy it. You'll have to buy the other two if you want a 'complete' experience. That will be $180 total...
     
  6. Retto

    Retto Notebook Evangelist

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    So not true.... One we havent even really been told exactly what they are other then they will be massive as far as content goes. Dont think of them as "expansions" think of them as 3 different games for each race. And dont expect the next one anytime soon, Think next year at the earliest. Maybe longer.
     
  7. Histidine

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    I very much disagree! Just because there's no base building doesn't necessarily mean it's "dumbed down". It's just a different type of game, and it's much closer to REAL Warhammer 40k (there's no base building in that - does that make it "dumbed down"??). It's tons of fun to play with some buddies. And if you think a brainless FPS player can sit down and learn to play it well in a few hours, you'd be oh so very wrong!

    I can't comment on C&C4, but I understand that it's just a crappy game that did the mechanics wrong. Also, C&C was ALWAYS base building! 40k actually has solid mechanics to fall back on when base building is taken away.
     
  8. ajreynol

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    nobody should have to ask if they should buy StarCraft II. if you like RTS games at all...or think you might...StarCraft II is a must-by.
     
  9. TofuTurkey

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    I played DoW2 (have Chaos Rising but haven't started, sidetracked by Oblivion :p). I looked at SC2's screenshots and they remind me of DoW2. Besides the base building, which part of SC2 stands out from DoW2 that's fun / better / worse? I played SC a long time ago, is the other difference micro-management in DoW2 and not so in SC2?
     
  10. raz1337

    raz1337 Notebook Evangelist

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    That answers the question I was coming into the thread for. I was wondering what the deal was with the games for each race and when they'd be out. Stupid me went on EBGames just now wondering which race Wings of Liberty was for and where the other 2 races were. What was Blizzard's reasoning for this choice? Was there really anything logical or was it purely money?
     
  11. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    I would agree I like DoW 1 much better.

    Initially I was very hurt and angry about the change in gameplay with DoW 2. Actually I still am, lol. I still like DoW 1 WAYYY better. But once you get past the "this isn't my DoW!" you'll find an entertaining Warhammer action RPG. RTS it is not (at least in SP).

    Your loss. This IS a complete package and then some. And you have zero idea what the other 2 expansions are going to be like and priced at. Nice try troll baiter. Maybe you'll understand better after reading this.

    StarCraft 2 is a full game, no matter what whiners say
     
  12. TearTaker

    TearTaker Notebook Evangelist

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    I bought Starcraft 2 and I've never played nor knew how to play an rts. I figured I might as well give it a try since I love games, right? Well, i do like this game a lot, even though I am absolutely horrible at it.
     
  13. AmazingGracePlayer

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    The key is to have as few workers as possible. Good players always have their resources ~0 (no extra time and resources wasted on workers).
     
  14. LaptopNut

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    I will buy it when the price is more reasonable. I have seen it for £44.99 with the cheapest being £34.91. If it was a little less than that I would have bought it already.

    Edit: Since you have to link your real and full address details and everything else that should be private to a Battlenet account I will not be buying this title regardless of any price drops. I see things like that as unnecessary and we all know those systems are not secure.
     
  15. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Of course there is, Apple Fanboys are living proof of this theory. They pay the most and fight/defend the most.
     
  16. AmazingGracePlayer

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    Pre-Order Call of Duty Black Ops on Amazon and you get $20 credit, then buy Starcraft 2. Problem solved :D
     
  17. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    Well I bought the game today and played it for about an hour. Did I care about spending $60?, not really, the price wasn't an issue, I just wasn't sure If I would like the style of game.

    For never playing an RTS game, and not knowing what to do, I got the hang of it (sort of). I am still absolutely terrible, but I understand what I have to do, and will keep playing until I get better.

    The game is very fun, and I am happy that I bought it. I really needed a new game to play, something that involved strategy and not run and gun. ( I have been waiting for a real sim city 5 forever).

    Anyways, I will probably play it a lot more this weekend, and probably see how it will run on my new laptop once it arrives Sunday. Thanks for the responses, and if anyone has never played an RTS game before and want something different, get this game, I really like it so far.
     
  18. Retto

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    More then one reason behind it really, 1 is as it is its a pretty long game with 29 missions, so add two more "campaigns" and you'd be up to nearly 90 total. Which is a bit to big for one game.

    If they had done the original SC this method no one would be complaining. It just seems everyone expects it to be the same format that SC was. Well to bad we evolve and things change. Frankly for me Im excited to see full 30 mission campaigns for the other 2.

    But lets also not forget that Blizzard is a company, they dont exist solely to make us happy. Profits mean something and if they can milk an extra buy here or there more power to them imo. No need to make them out to be the bad guy for trying to make a buck.
     
  19. TearTaker

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    Thanks for the tip. Workers as in the people who gather recources? lol sorry I am a noob. :eek:
     
  20. theZoid

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    it plays to me much like CNC Tiberium Wars, very much so. don't pay for online, don't know diff between retail and digital. You have to log in similar to steam to even play the campaign, so if it's on more than one computer, it can't be played at the same time.
     
  21. ViciousXUSMC

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    Just to add to this, while 29 missions is not a lot of just "missions" and they do not take terribly long to beat. Where all the time/disk space/effort went is the lore/story is very indepth but also they put a ton of time into FMV's the dialog with characters on your ship between missions, and other stuff like that.

    They could have crammed 90 missions into one game easily and just said "now we go to x place and fight x force" but they took the time to make each battle mean something. For that it became enough content to split into 3 parts.

    Its almost 7GB of stuff just for this one game, I would not expect them to put this much time recording voices, making fmvs, etc and produce 21GB of content in a single game. If they had quality would have overall definitely suffered. For a game we waited so many years for I am glad that then went for quality and not speed/quantity.
     
  22. Ocelot

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    When Ep. 4 was released back in 1977 I don't think anyone had an inkling there was going to be a sequel, much less 5.

    When someone who has never seen Star Wars buys the Ep. 4 DVD, they should decide for themselves whether they will be willing to invest in the other five films or just the first one only and disregard the sequels entirely.

    Where in my postings did I take the position that the sequels to Starcraft, or sequels to anything else, should be given out free? I merely stated the reason why I was not willing to get into it.
     
  23. raz1337

    raz1337 Notebook Evangelist

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    Blizzard is one of the companies that always goes for quality, hence their "When it's done" answer when people ask when the game will be finished. Blizzard has yet to make a game that bombed.
     
  24. LaptopNut

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    Can you play Starcraft 2 skirmish Vs AI without a battlenet account?

    I notice that to sign up it asks way too much information and I don't feel comfortable giving so much information out just to play a game. I am not even interested in multiplayer, only single player and skirmish with A.I.

    Maybe you guys don't mind giving them your full address, Postcode, D.O.B and God knows what else or do you just put fake details or something.
     
  25. WankelRotor

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    ok, I know I'm a little behind but I would really like to buy SC2. I have some questions though. If anyone would explain to me if there are any stupid mistakes blizzards made with it, that would be great. I know absolutely nothing about this game. lol. so is there anything like 3 installs? no dedicated servers? monthly subscription and so on. Basically is this another POS game like MW2 or a proper sequel we ve been waiting for 10 years? I can install it on a mac right? and then when I get a better PC, I can install it there again, right!? I appreciate any info thats necessary for my enjoyment of this game. so anything I don't know but I should know. lol.
    thx in advance
     
  26. Ennea

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    Single disc install.

    No monthly subscription unless you live in Asia or Russia.

    Yes, lol, it is a worthy successor. Despite that question being highly subjective.
     
  27. cha

    cha Notebook Deity

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    Umm.. here in South East Asia ( SEA ), we don't have any monthly fees.

    Oh and long time no see Ennea =)
     
  28. Ennea

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    Hey there, cha.

    I don't know about the Philippines but Korea and Russia definitely have monthly fees. Although Korea is a special case since LAN centers are outrageous popular there and is basically monopolized (PC Bang).
     
  29. raz1337

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    I just picked it up. I'm not opening it until I fix my computer problems. 9 months ago, I was playing Crysis on this laptop, and now it struggles with quake 3 games.
     
  30. ryukenden

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    Here's my take on SC2. I'm a owner of SC2 CE signed by the entire development team including samwise.

    I think this is a worthy successor. I enjoy the single player very much. Since I don't do a lot of multi-player I can't give you a solid review. The cut-scene is superbly done as well as voice-acting. Now you may heard of all the glories of this game so take that into account as I'm not going to list everyone.

    The "dumb move":
    1. SC2 requires you to create and login into Bnet at-least once. Information is tied into your account as well as other blizzard games. In that case, they have info on your real name. (billing if any). Your real name is listed in your bnet account info (next to character name). The real name is hidden from other users. Although that might change soon. So be aware.

    2. Everything is controlled through bnet for multiplayer. No LAN or "chat" communities channels.

    3. Cost: 60$ for original and $100 for CE (USD). Some people say its too much, other are fine with it. I myself feel this is a full game despite its being a "trilogy".

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    Notes: Other NON-US version, user reported that voice acting aren't as good. I seen and hear it. I myself would agree as the characters lost its edge, toughness of being "terran". Its a personal preference but its what they and I say. Also note that some non-us version have fees after 6 or 3 months depending on where you live or what version you owned. My advice to get the US/NA version as it contains all original dialog/contents of its developer.
     
  31. rschauby

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    StarCraft 2 does support LAN play, but you still have to connect to Battlenet servers first. This single detail is something people are absoluting raging about but fail to tell you the entire story. You can still have a StarCraft LAN party but everyone needs to have their own copy and everyone needs to connect through a single router to Battlenet to authenticate. You will still be able to hold your tournaments on 0 latency LANs, not over the internet.
     
  32. ziddy123

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    Yeah but there is that clause about tournaments. All tournaments have to be authorized by Bnet. Pretty sure they get a chunk of the prize money or fees if there is any.
     
  33. ryukenden

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    My point exactly. Its not much of LAN if its not "local". That's where the monthly fees comes in. As stated some countries, the service will only last for 6/3 months after that you pay.
     
  34. rschauby

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    Asia gets free SC2 play if they have a WoW subscription and vice versa.
     
  35. ryukenden

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    We appreciate what can overcome but lets not turn a blind eye and ignore what's lead to numerous problems which dissuade people from purchasing the game. In fact, it solidifies why this it done to alienate its customers. If you put it that way; why not buy a high end machine, get turbo fast cable, and purchasing more games.

    I still think the game is worth it but like to point out its flaws and evil.
     
  36. rschauby

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    You gotta kinda take it in perspective though. How many, or what percentage of the population is going to get "burned" by the quasi-no LAN support? Sure it varies by region, but personally, I have never and don't plan to compete in any sponsored SC2 events. I don't feel shortchanged in one bit and I can guess that more than 9/10 people are exactly like me. I still have the option for LAN play for the same kinda play I did with SC1 and now I have access to the online play for free. Sure, maybe they didn't give us everything but I don't think you can say Blizzard was terribly unreasonable with their Battlenet.

    Also, when did you say Blizzard plans on charing US customers a fee to use Battlenet?
     
  37. shinakuma9

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    If Bnet 2.0 becomes like WoW (Pay to play). Blizzard is GOING to have to give me a refund. I will be so pissed off that i spent $68 on a game that had no indication of it becoming pay to play at a later date.
     
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    Heh, not sure for others, but the only time I ever played SC vs other players was on lan...
     
  39. DarthRevan

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    I bought a new laptop (Specs in my sig) specifically for SC2. Bought the Collectors Edition SC2 and it is worth every penny. It has SP with a bit of rpg elements and a great story. Top that off the online multi player goodness and that will last you until the expansion comes out and hands down the game of the year 2010! :D
     
  40. fzhfzh

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    I've played SC2 for one day, yes, the campaign is a full game worth, there are protoss missions as well, not sure if there's zerg mission as I've only played till the broadcast of UNN mission. Just that the mission in "real life" is terran.

    The main gripe for not buying the game is the badly handled multiplayer which is the phail called bnet 2.0.

    Also, I noticed that SC2 has a memory leak problem which really shouldn't happen in such a high expectation game, the game will crash after playing for every few hours, and after doing a google, it seems that a lot of people is getting memory leak problems as well with SC2.

    Korea != Asia, so no, other Asian locations don't get SC2 free if they have WoW, only Korea.
     
  41. Retto

    Retto Notebook Evangelist

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    Frankly I love the new bnet, i dont have to look for a game just to see it titled as someone doing something horrible to your mom. Creating games for me and my friends is easy and simple. No need to say look for this game name. Just say here's an invite.

    I think the problem is everyone thinks it should be like the old bnet, which frankly was pretty crappy. People just dont like change. So learn to deal and look at the upside to it all.
     
  42. Histidine

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    I have only just started on bnet, but so far, I've got no complaints.
     
  43. Ghold

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    I'm really tempted to buy this game, any one have a trail code for me to test the waters?
     
  44. Histidine

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    I've played the first few missions and so far it seems to be worth the money.
     
  46. rschauby

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    Hardly anyone had high speed internet in 1998, playing over a phone modem was terrible. LAN was basically your only choice in original SC1. Battlenet was around back then and if you didn't mind playing on it then, I don't think you'll mind playing on it now.
     
  47. Freelancer332

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    Yes!
    You also can always just buy starcraft 1 to try it out.
    It's only about $20 for the battle chest which includes Starcraft, Starcraft brood war, their respective strategy guides, and a tech tree poster if I remember correctly.
    I've played starcraft for years and it's definitely a great game to have, very very high replay value. there's a reason for it being so popular for the past 12 years :)
     
  48. Ennea

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    The campaigns between SC1 and SC2 are pretty radically different though, haha.
     
  49. o.d.

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    I always build lots of workers.... not sure if the poster was just being sarcastic or what.... its a great game (SC 1 haven't gotten 2 yet but will!).
     
  50. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Actually with the sale of SC2 several retailers are selling SC1 Battlechest for $9.99 :cool:
     
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