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    Should I get a ps3 or xbox 360?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by vaio_boi, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    again, i will say this. if you didnt like a game, do you expect everyone to share your view? there are a lot of people in the world who liked KZ, and are waiting for KZ2. am i "hyped" for it? no, im hyped for assassin's creed/mgs4/FF series..etc


    Its amazing how hyped people can be for the sequel to a average game....i say the same thing about the halo series...but i dont expect everyone to agree with me..
     
  2. Thomas

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    this is way back but it does play regular old DVD's
     
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    I never said i did not like the game.. since when does average mean dislike?

    I didn't say that no one liked the game, i just dont see how there is so much hype to a franchise that never really struck big. It was supposed to be the halo killer, didn't succeed in that and now its like the same thing all over again.

    I do agree with your statement that halo is a mediocre game as well... but i still place it above killzone.
     
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    im not interested in the name of the game, im interested in what the ps3 can do since mostly everyone (not everyone, but a lot of people) think the ps3 has subpar graphics.

    i interpreted your statements as you not liking KZ. to me, there is no halo-killer, since halo isnt a game to compare against. i dont even like the game..if anything, it should be a goldeneye 007 killer, the KING of console FPS, where it all started, and IMO nothing can take its crown.
     
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    well as of now the ps3 does fall short in certain games graphically to the 360 due to developers being more familiar with the 360 hardware... case and point madden 08.

    I do however think it is stupid to argue one system having better graphics than the other, because eventually they will be identical, both have HUGE amounts of potential.

    Halo is a pretty overrated franchise... i picked up perfect dark zero andactually find it to be alot more fun... multiplayer is very reminiscent A of the original. Also the fact that you can download the temple and facility from goldeneye for free.. makes it all the better.
     
  6. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    Umm I have to agree with the statement about Killzone and its upcoming sequel. It was never that great of a game. That's not just my opinion...that's most peoples. You can't compare Halo to Killzone when it comes to sales (i don't even like Halo that much).

    Black was much better than Killzone IMO, but EA just didn't do much with it. Alot of potential though.
     
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    + 1 rep INEEDMONEY...
     
  8. illmatic2609

    illmatic2609 Notebook Deity

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    First of all, the keywords are "as of now". In time, PS3 will be getting more support, more developers trying to develop games for the console, and it will thus have more games. Already, however, I have a list of games for the PS3 that I want to buy. Most of them being exclusives.....

    Yes, both have potential, but if you look at what the PS3 brings to the table....technology that is very new....and evidently hard to work with as of now....such as CELL, RSX, and Blu-Ray....I think the PS3 has more potential. At least....I haven't seen any games in development for the 360 that look better than Killzone 2.

    YES....Killzone was everything BUT the halo killer.....it was full of bugs and not very enjoyable. The funny thing is that a lot of people who talk bad about it...haven't even played it. People just use the example of KZ 1 as a response to KZ 2 looking far superior. I've already seen enough to know that AT LEAST....the game will look stunning and will have good enough gameplay. Even more than the single player....I am awaiting details about it's multiplayer.

    Anyhow, no game can be compared to the Halo series.....better to compare Halo sales to the Box Office... :) With so many pre-orders already, Halo 3 is definitely going to set records. However, as you said the franchise IS over-rated. I'm just wondering why it's so popular.....I've played both Halo 1 and Halo 2 extensively. I admit they are both fun online, but at the same time, I don't see anything else that makes them special.

    I thought Black was pretty repetitive....even if fun.
     
  9. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    No, the PS3 might be getting more support. Or it might not. If it keeps lagging behind, people (developers and customers alike) will lose interest in it, and it will lose support. If the PS3 is harder to develop for, but has a smaller userbase, why should developers keep making games for it?

    And so far, most of PS3's exclusives have turned out to be cross platform after all. I'd expect the same to happen with some of the upcoming ones as well. (Of course that works both ways. There are also 360 exclusives that suddenly become cross platform)

    So if it came with a coffee maker and a coat hanger, it would also have more potential? Would you expect its games to become better because of it?
    Just because they cram a lot of unusual stuff into the machine doesn't necessarily mean it has more "potential". It could just mean that Sony made the wrong decision and included something that doesn't really contribute to the system as a games console.

    Apart from that, RSX is not new technology. It's obsolete technology. It's a Geforce 7, for heaven's sake.
    If you want to talk about GPU's, it's the 360 that brings new technology to the table. The 360's GPU is brilliant. And it's brilliant for games, specifically.
    Cell definitely has its strengths, but gaming isn't really one of them.

    In any case, as you said, the keywords are "as of now". We don't know what will happen next year, or the year after. You, based on the idea that "the PS3 will succeed because Sony says its better", think it will gain more traction.
    I, on the basis that its hardware isn't all that well suited for games, and the fact that it's lagging hugely behind in sales, suspect that it won't ever become a winner. I don't think it'll fail completely either, but it certainly won't dominate the way the PS2 did.
    The 360 has a big head start, and the PS3 doesn't even seem to be gaining on it.

    But none of us know what will happen. All we know is that as of now, the 360 is a better deal. (Unless of course, you're in love with the PS3 exclusive games that are there, or if you absolutely want to watch Blu-Ray movies (and for some reason, it has to be BR movies, and not HD-DVD). Or if you want to run Linux on your console. In those cases, the 360 can't really compete)

    But unreleased games tend to be terrible benchmarks... :)

    However, it's also worth noticing that so far, when cross platform titles have differed between the two platforms, the 360 has been getting the superior versions.
    There was that boxing game (which I can't remember the name of, because I couldn't care less about boxing games ;)) that was one of the earliest announced when both systems were first revealed, and now there's Madden. Of course, it might be because the developers are being bribed by Microsoft, or because they've had more time to learn the 360.
    But it might also be because the 360 is simply more powerful.

    Disclaimer:
    I don't own either console, and I don't care which one you buy. But I think it is wrong to blindly assume that "The PS3 will grow over time", when so far, that claim only originates from within Sony's marketing machine. If there are no signs of it growing, I think it's wrong to spread the rumor as some kind of reason for buying the PS3.

    Let's stick to the facts, instead. The facts are that:
    So far, the PS3 is not a better gaming machine. A few games run better on the 360, most run exactly the same.
    The PS3 has a few exclusives that you may or may not care about, as does the 360.
    The PS3 comes with a blu-ray drive which is convenient if you want to watch HD movies on Blu-Ray specifically.
    For the 360 you can buy a HDDVD drive, which is convenient if you want to watch HD movies on HDDVD specifically.
    If you don't particularly care about HD movies, the 360 is quite a bit cheaper.
    If you want to run Linux or do other non-gaming stuff, the PS3 is a more open platform.

    Those are the facts I'm aware of. The rest is nothing more than rumour and marketing propaganda.
    If you think you can demonstrate that the PS3 is a more powerful gaming machine, I'd be interested in hearing it. But I suspect that your belief is based on nothing more than Sony's excellent marketing strategy, the word "Cell", and the fact that the PS2 was such a big hit.
    None of which qualify as evidence for the PS3's superiority.
     
  10. mrXniick

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    Yes, i said "as of now" for those reasons, it will change.. i dont see why you pointed that out.

    Also to say the ps3 will have better graphics than the 360 is absurd. I have read many posts from you and you seem like quite the sony fanboy. Both consoles are at the beggining of their life cycles and posses the same amount of potential IMO. They both have different architectures,but i doubt that one console will be pumping out better visuals than the other come 2-3 years. I have not seen one game on ps3, or that will be on ps3 in the future that does not look like it could run on the 360.

    That being said i chose the wii and 360 because they have games out NOW, and many this year that i am very interested in. The legend of zelda twilight princess, super smash brothers brawl, metroid prime 3, mario galaxy, Bioshock, gears of war, assasin's creed and blue dragon are just some of them.

    Im sure i will get a ps3 somewhere down the road.. i didnt skip it because i hate playstation or some stupid reason like that. The games i want simply are not out for that system and wone be for a long time. Once mgs4, GOD OF WAR 3 and ff13 hit, im sure i will change my mind.

    I like good games, not hardware or companies.
     
  11. ChanchoWancho

    ChanchoWancho Notebook Consultant

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    Does anybody know if the PS3 has been patched so it can output Blu-ray at 720P? I remember the problem was till there after the 1st patch (It would only output blu-ray movies at 480P if your TV was 720P-only)

    Any updates on this particular issue?

    Also, in other regions (I'm in NZ) are HD-DVD's cheaper than Blu-ray films? A blu-ray movie costs about $50 NZD over here compared with $25-$35 NZD for HD-DVD's.
     
  12. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    As far as I know, it's still there. Can anyone confirm?

    As far as I can see (just did a really quick price check), the prices are the same here (Denmark). Good point though, and it'd be interesting to hear from the rest of the world.
     
  13. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    Well my friend had Killzone and I played it a few times before he traded it in and I just couldn't get into it. I'm hoping KZ2 will be completely different from KZ. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is going to be a GREAT game. Forget KZ2

    Black was repetitive. it was short, but I thought it could have been so much better. Thats what I meant by potential.

    Halo is overrated...it's a good game. Don't see anything special about it. I prefer Call of Duties and Battlefield type FPS myself. I'm interested in seeing how the story is...that's about it. Don't care about multiplayer.
     
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    I'm pretty sure a recent firmware update has allowed this. I don't have a ps3 so I can't tell you for sure.
     
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    i could not agree more.
     
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