Should I remove laptop battery as long as the charger is connected while gaming?

My friend told me that as long as he's only using his gaming laptop Asus g73sx in his house, he removes his battery from the laptop but connects the AC/DC adapter to the laptop and charges it to the outlet while playing games. He said he does that so the battery wont die down right away.

My question is , is that a good practice?

 

The battery's main enemy is heat. If your gaming load doesn't break mid-high 60s, there's really no reason to remove the battery.

 

I see, thank you for replying!

 

unless it burns your hands when you touch it dont bother. Anyone that tells you to follow some scheme to help extend the life of the battery you are completely wasting your time. Only four rules matter:

1)if you are not using the battery for more then 1 month discharge to ~40% (doesn't have to be exact but get as close as possible)

1a)recharge and discharge once every 3-6 months if it is going to not be used for that long

2)if the battery gets so hot where it burns your hand to touch it remove it while you are on AC.....only a very very few laptops require this. (most require this if your using the laptop outside when it is 100+ degrees)

3)do not leave a battery fully discharged for more then a few days. You can get away with a week but your playing with fire since it might go below recharge level

4)fully discharge your battery in BIOS every few months if you notice your getting less capacity then you should. This is called calibration.

5) this is a bonus. Use your battery exactly how it was ment to be. Do not worry about it because it is not worth your time. Your battery has a PCM/PCB that protects it from overcharge and over drawing the battery so no need to worry. You also get 300 cycles before you hit 80% capacity. So don't worry about it.

 

Don't worry about it. Leave it plugged in.

 

Agreed. Leave it in. Don't worry about it

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This..... It just increased the wear level in my M1730 and M17X.
I did it twice and both the time, the wear level increased by 7-11%.
I don't know if its only with my system or all the Dell systems. So, do a research before you try that... Just my experience with calibration...

 

lol you can not loose 3 percent of capacity doing that. That is the program miss reading they are natorious for being crappy. My HP NC8000 has 900+kWhs of capacity with both batteries in it. Take the secondary battery out and i have like 60Whs. I go all through this month from 50% wear to 30% wear. your battery gets 300 full discharges before it reaches 80% capacity. Do your research before even daring to use some BS program that is know to have issues with accuracy.

EDIT: Also i get more accurate times with windows battery menu then battery bar. Battery bar tells me i have ~37mins of juice for 20 mins before it changes. While windows reports 57 mins and slowly ticks down. After ~50-60mins I run out of juice....battery bar sucks. It says I have 40Whs of juice and I pull 40Whs and it says that I have 37mins left....spot on!!!! I cna do the math off my head and tell you I have 60 mins of juice but battery bar can't even do simply division.


(usage)/(total capacity)= time remaining.

EDIT: again draining for calibration only uses 1 cycle of 300 to get you to 80% capacity. So you are loosing 0.06% of capacity. You can easily get 500 full discharge/charges before you hit the point where you should just et a new battery. That is ~40-60% capacity remaining.

Also you only need to do a calibration if you know your not getting the right amount of time. My wife used the NC8000 for months and plugged in and pulled out constantly while moving around the house which destroys batteries and their calibration. So she ended up only getting 5-15mins of life from a 1.5-2.5 hour battery. I started it up in BIOS and ran it until it died which took like 3 hours and wa-bam it got its capacity back for 1.5-2.5 hours. This is using like primary and secondary batteries that are like 5-7 years old....i dont know how in the world they still hold a charge of 1.5-2.5 hours. I am still baffled by this. ( it shouldn't even hold a charge at this point...let alone work)

 

Only real reason would be to lower temps down a lil bit.
Power surge could wreck your world if ya didn't hit that save point or if your on a massive killing streak.....

 

power surge wont make your computer shut down it would be a brown out/power sag or a power outage. Surge is too much voltage/power.

 

Maybe, but if you're on a killing streak in multiplayer, it won't make much difference, as your router would restart as well, causing you to disconnect.

I'm thinking about removing the battery just to get rid of the extra heat in my soon to arrive crappy MSI-1762 barebones. Does anyone know how much will it drop the temps?

 

approximately none

 

it doesn't actually add heat to your system...taking it out would lower the temps from battery but realistically your battery should be cool whole on AC since it is not under use but gains most of its heat from the laptop.

 

I got this idea from a silly youtube video like this one:
How to dramatically cool down your laptop temperature and also speed up your pc - YouTube

I'm really worried about heat buildup.

 

I see, thanks everybody!!! =)

 

Battery is a built in UPS if nothing else. Power goes out, trip on cord, accidentally pull out cord, short brown out, etc without battery will just shut your machine down and possibly damage your machine. I think the risks outweigh any minor benefit you might get.

Just leave it in. If the laptop has issues with heat because battery is installed, or battery gets heated any significant amount, buy a different laptop because it's designed poorly.

As already stated "normal" charge/discharge is about 300 cycles until battery will only hold 80% capacity of new, and 500-600 cycles before it's about 50%. So basically every 3-4 discharges will lose about 1%. Many batteries come with a higher than rated maximum charge so you even get an extra 5-10 discharges. If you discharge your laptop frequently then there's really no need to calibrate. But if you drain your battery to no less than 50% at any given time or very rarely run on battery, it's not a bad idea to calibrate every six months or so.

 

conflicting from what a lot are saying
all i know is my first battery lasted about 11 months as i always kept it plugged in and alfter 11 months it only had 22% charge.
the replacement battery is now 3 years old and when i know im not going to be using battery for long periods of time i remove it with roughly 40% charge. after 3 years its still holding 98% charge and going strong.

im only going by what happened to me and what was suggested by reseller.

 

As many laptops as I've owned, used, maintained, serviced, etc, very few ever had issues leaving batteries in the laptop. Capacity never an issue. If it only has 22% charge after 11 months then there is/was an issue with the charging algorithm or hardware. I even had a 7 year old Sony that was plugged in most of the time but still had a 25% capacity, could get 30-40 minutes on it still, lol.

Do what you think is best but imho, leave it in. Not only that but replacement batteries are usually not that expensive.

 

its the second one that its affected.
my crappy off the shelf fujitsu siemens is the same age as my clevo and has a 99% wear level. not even enough to boot up windows.

 

Certain laptops will throttle down performance to unusable levels if the laptop does not recognize a battery, ie ThinkPads. My Z61t without the 7 cell plugged in, the T7200 Core 2 Duo throttles down to 800 MHz and it will not go up back to 2.0 GHz without the battery, even if a 65 or 90 watt AC adapter is plugged in, so it all depends on the OEM and how they've implemented the power management software.

Also my Vostro 1500 with a T7500 and 8600M GT is unsuable on battery, CPU was throttled down to 800 MHz and GPU was clocked down to like 150 Mhz after I accidently dislodged the AC adapter.

 

thanks for the replies guys

 

I read this before and tried it. But my outlet is under my desk and I kept on hitting the plug with my feet and shutting down my laptop. Since then, I never remove my battery