Skyrim help?

Hi all, I got Skyrim for xmas and I am loving it so far. I managed to get to character level 10 with a Red Guard, and my best weapon is a SkyForge steel sword (fine) that I found when these people were randomly fighting each other in a house. I found a steel helmet and steel gauntlets, and made them both superior. Now here is where the trouble comes.

I am stuck in the bandit's cave on the quest where you are supposed to kill the bandit chief. I am also doing the quest to retake the castle from the inside at the same time. I can manage to kill the bandit chief, but then bandits that can shoot lighting attack me and I die every time. I am cornered in a side room when they attack. Does anyone know how to beat them? I don't really have many healing potions, but I do have the healing spell, which takes forever. Well thanks fellow gamers

 

Hmm ... if this doesn't get moved to the Game subforum of the off-topic area soon I'll eat my hat.

When moved you will prolly have lotsa folks who are playing Skyrim to help you out.

At least I hope so.

 

Well I'll be darned, there is a game subforum?!? In that case, please forgive my ignorance. I am not yet a 15,000 post posters who knows more than the people who own the forum.

 

Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)

 

Yep. Games, Home Theater, TV, and Movies and Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)

I made the mistake of posting a movie trailer in here and it was moved to that first subforum just last week or so.

 

Better moved then deleted or you being banned. Hey, a mistake is a mistake. If I had the power to move it myself, I would. I hate making extra work for people. I still need help with the game though.

 

If you want it moved, just report your first post and a mod with the power to move it will do it for ya. It happens sometimes even to senior members.

I did it for ya this time . It'll get moved to the appropriate place eventually.

EDIT: For the game help, if you can manage to retreat somehow, they usually stop chasing you and you can just snipe them with a bow. Kinda a cheap trick, but if it gets you going again... Otherwise, go for the casters first,they are usually weak squishies at that point in the game.

 

Should get plenty of attention here.

Looks like a fun game. Might pick it up when it's on sale and I have time to play it.

 

If it's really a huge problem, just leave and come back later. The mobs in a dungeon are locked at the level you were when you first entered the dungeon, so they'll be easier when you head back later.

 

Try to stagger the spell casters, by blocking and doing a power bash with either your shield or 2-handed weapon. This interrupts their spell.

And as MrFong mentioned, you might want to leave and come back later, perhaps when you have some kind of resist shock magic potion, boots, or shield, etc.

 

Hmm, I could just leave I guess, but I don't want to have to get rid of 20-30 pounds of awesome equipment that's down there. The time I did manage to kill the guy, I found steel armor on him and his electric casting steel sword. I also already found an Ancient Nordic War Axe of Cold or something like that in the other dungeon.

Also, does anybody know what to do with dragon bones? Can you forge them with your weapons or are they just useless to have?

 

You can use Dragon Bones and Dragon Scales to make armor of it, if you level up blacksmithing.

I also recommend keeping Skyrim related stuff into the massive Skyrim thread we already got running here at NBR.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ds/584274-tes-v-skyrim-discussion-thread.html

 

When you get your smithing skill up, you can use them to forge Dragonplate/Dragonscale armor. Dragonplate armor is the second best Heavy armor, second only to Daedric, and Dragonscale armor is the best Light armor. What I do with the scales and bones is just store them in a chest in my house, and when my smithing skill is high enough I should have a crapload of scales and bones to forge a full set of improved armor.

 

Well, I already killed 2 dragons, so that's 6 plates and 6 scales My character is so weighed down that he can't run though and I can't afford a house yet So basically I'm screwed.

 

You'll kill a ton more dragons over the course of the game, so if you can't afford a place to store them and you need to get rid of them, just sell them. You'll get plenty more.

 

You can give some to your follower.

 

Also, keep in mind dragons may have more than one of each. The last couple of blood dragons I've killed have had two or three of each.

 

Just pick a public closet and dump your stuff in there. Any of the ones in the Dragonreach main room will do.

Also, when when comes to hiking up your smithing, remember that everything balances out. Every 5 ranks you gain in smithing, you're going to gain a level. If you hotshot smithing, you're going end up with dragonplate armor and heavy armor/weapon ranks in the low 30's. That'll still going to get owned even with the fancy equiptment, especially if you're playing on expert or master. It's best to grow it with you and focus on improving the equiptment at your current level. Just my 2 cents.

 

I have Daedric armor and 100 smithing at level 25. Nothing unique comes close to Daedric gear, especially when it's improved under the effects of Fortify Smithing armor and potions. I don't understand what you're talking about with it getting owned with fancy equipment. There's no real downside to powerleveling smithing.

Also, public storage respawns. It takes a week or two in game, but don't be surprised when all the stuff you tossed in a random closet is gone after you went off gallivanting across Skyrim.

 

Well currently I am level 12 and my highest rank is hand combat at 56 I think it is. I am mostly doing the quests for money and better stuff. I have a hard time finding places to make armor and things, expect Whiterun and Riverwood, which is a long ways way from me, which is Riften.

 

Well, you can just fast travel back and forth, unless you're overencumbered, in which case you should seriously just sell the scales and bones. I killed 3 dragons just yesterday.

 

I mean owned in the sense of the issues he's having now: direct attacks on higher level enemies.

Because smithing works on a straight addition (+20 for legendary) and not a percentage system, it's very possible to have a higher armor rating with a heavy armor rank of 60 and steel armor, than with fully smithed daedric armor and a rank in the low 30's. That's if you take the heavy armor perks when you can, and just steel smithing.

Base steel set rating is 74 and daedric is 108. Add 20 for legendary smithing and you get 94 and 128. With a heavy armor skill of 50, you can get 4 perks for a total of 85% improvement, as well as 0.4% for every additional rank. The steel set at level 25 is going to be more powerful. Same goes for weapons.

As far public storage goes, you're right. But if you just pick one place to keep stuff, the timer resets every time you access it. Just don't ignore it for more than a week and you're good.

I really know too much about this game...

 

I think you're confused, or maybe I'm confused about what you're saying. I'll try crafting a fully improved steel plate set tonight and see what the AR total is. I mean, the cap is 567, and I'm right around 500 without maxed out Juggernaut (that's the AR percentage increase). I'm really not understanding how the steel set fully improved can be better than Daedric fully improved at any level.

 

He might be thinking of Steel Plate, which is better than regular Steel, and for some reason is part of the Light Armor branch of the Smithing perk tree.

I think the point he's trying to make is, depending on your Smithing level, you might be able to fully max out Steel Plate armor but not Daedric. For example, if your Smithing is 95 with the Advanced Armors perk, you can improve it all to Legendary quality. The base armor rating for a full set of base Steel Plate armor (armor, boots, gauntlets, helmet) is 87. A full set of base Daedric armor has a rating of 108.

Now, with 95 Smithing and the Advanced Armors perk (and not the Daedric perk), you can make all the Steel Plate armor Legendary, which gives +20 rating to each piece. So, the total base armor rating goes from 87 to 167. With Daedric armor, if you don't have the perk, at 95 Smithing you could only improve it to Exquisite quality, which only adds +10 to each rating, so you'd have a total of 148.

tl;dr - at 95 Smithing with Advanced Armors but not Daedric perks, you can have an armor rating of 167 with upgraded Steel Plate armor, but only 148 for fully upgraded Daedric armor.

Now, armor rating maxes out at 567, regardless of your armor skills or what armor you have. With 100 Heavy Armor and the necessary perks, you can just about reach that with Legendary Steel Plate armor:

The base armor rating for Legendary Steel Plate is 167 for a full set. The Heavy Armor skill increases armor rating by 0.4% each level, so at level 100 you have a 40% increase. With all five ranks of the Juggernaut perk, you get 100% increase. The perks Well Fitted and Matching Set each grant an additional 25% increase, since you have all four pieces of a matching Steel Plate set. This puts full Legendary Steel well over the 567 armor rating limit.

 

I guess what I don't understand is A) why you would take Advanced Armor if you're a heavy armor user and B) how you could make Daedric armor if you don't have the perk to improve it, since it's one perk.

 

Here are the base stats for armor. I didn't include shields in that base score.

 

Yeah, it's really dumb the way that works...I have no idea why they put both Steel Plate (heavy) and Scaled (light) armor in the light path. Anyway, Steel Plate is between Dwarven and Orcish in terms of armor rating. I guess the main motivation is that iron and corundum are easier to find than Dwarven metal and orichalcum.

As for Daedric armor, you don't necessarily have to craft it; you can find it as loot at higher levels, although that's far from reliable.