So are there any gaming laptops with the Radeon HD 3850 X2 yet?

So I do have to ask, are there any gaming laptops with the Radeon HD 3850 X2 out yet or coming soon? If so, which ones are those?

Cheers!

 

No. Nada. Nein. Nyet.

There was an Asus model shown at Computex. That's about it.

 

never most likely

 

uhh. where are you getting this from?

 

i think he is basing this on because laptops never had a DOuble-GPU card, or even crossfire installment.

 

the highest is the 3800 which is not even out yet
it will be probably be weaker then the 8800

 

oh ok and you just HAPPEN to know this, dont spread misinformation when you dont even know what your talking about yourself.


and yes they arent out yet, so wait until they are out to pass judgement

 

do your research buddy!
i hate me who flame without even googling first.
if if the 3800 desktop card is weaker then the 8800 then the 8800 mobile card will be better then the 3800 mobile card
also if you look at the other ati cards like the 2600 and 8600 the same is true for both desktop and laptop with the 8600 being better
and remember ignorance is bliss

 

You did see my reply right?

Asus did show a laptop running the Mobility 3850X2 behind closed curtains at Computex 2008. So, yes it's possible that it will appear in laptops. Secondly, comparing the 3850 X2 to the 8800 isn't fair for the 8800.

The 3850X2 in desktop hardware is a reasonable match for the 9800 GTX and definitely beats the 8800 GT.

 

This isn't helpfull at all:\

The 2600 is better than the 8600m gs and equal to the 8600m gt ddr2 in benchmarks. On these forums i've seen some people who have both 8600 and 2600 have said the 2600 performs better. It will of course depend on the game.

 

IMO, the 8800 will still beat it. but.. time will reveal all!!!

 

ehrm wasnt it a 3650 X2 that was showed a not a 3870 X2 ? And the 3870X2 make the 8800GT looks like a idiot just look for a random review

 

Nope.

http://www.pczilla.net/en/post/33.html

 

wow couldnt have more of a dogmatic narrow minded view of the situation. ATI's cards are on a 55nm process and Nvidias are on 65nm, meaning ATI can put a more powerful chip on a smaller die, make it use less power, and be cooler.

This card has not been legitimately reviewed yet, and if you say notebookcheck is legit then crawl into a hole.

Also mobile cards are heavily modified to accept heat because of the small spaces they are confined in, they are based off the desktop version, they are not the EXACT same thing.

Thanks , " buddy", I have done my research.

 

narsnail is mostly right here. the mobile cards are modified heavily. however, they should all be based on the same core, and you expect there to be a correlation between the desktop card's performance and the laptop card's performance.

still, its no guarantee. although you are right that the 8600GT and hd 2600 ended up performing at basically the same ratio as the 8600m gt and the mobility hd 2600. and if i were a betting man i would bet as predator-ram-box on these cards as well.

i'll also just add that the process size isn't everything. ati has been ahead of nvidia on process size for several years now, and nvidia has been crushing ati on cost / performance AND power draw for years.

moving to a lower process size theoretically reduces power draw and heat output. however, rushing a new process size can end up generating more current leakage, which generates heat and wastes energy.

 

Last I checked (quite long ago, when the fight was between 2900 and 8800), the ATI on 55nm produced more heat than the Nvidia. Have to recheck again, but not today..

 

I dont think ATI was on the 55nm process with the 2900, I actually think it was 90nm, so that could explain why those seires of cards were heat imploding nuclear power plants.

@ chef, I just meant potentially they could do that, and ur right, they have not been doing much with that smaller advantage, I think it is a larger factor for notebooks though as power and heat are big issues.

 

all i was saying was i doubt that the 3850 x2 will never come out
ati's best card thats not even out yet is 3800

 

yea you clearly dont know what your talking about

you doubt it will never come out? so you think its coming out, because thats what you just wrote.

The 3800 is not a card its a series of cards, the 3850, and 3870 are the cards.

 

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Why would you take a chance on buying an ATI when you can buy Nvidia and have a proven track record?

 

I've had better a better experience, driverwise, with an ATI card than with nvdia. So if build a desktop later this year I will probably get an ATI card. About the 3850x2 never coming out, there was on asus notebook with it at some trade show.

Also the ATI desktop cards have good power consumption so it can be ported to a laptop with less crippling . Given that the performance of the 3870 is near the level of a 8800m gtx, the 3870 mobility will probably have the performance beetween the two 8800m and the 3850 very near the the 8800m gts.

But, let's wait the benchmarks and see. And the best case scenario is that the new ati cards bring the 8800m prices down, or bring a new card which ups the performance of the 8700m gt.

If it wasn't the 3870 and 3850 we probably would never see the 9600gt at such low prices

 

on desktops i actually would buy ati before nvidia. i am not a nvidia fan personally except on notebook

 

What about Nvidia's GTX280? It will be King! http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_gtx_280.html

 

Good luck putting that in a laptop lol. Plus don't worry I'm betting ati's 4870 or 4870x2 will dominate the way overpriced gtx280 for less $

 

I don't think the 4870 will dominate the gtx280, since the 4850 is as fast as the 9800gtx and the 4870 will be an overclocked 4850, but the 4870x2 will be at least a good competitor.

 

What most people seem to forget is the GDDR5 memory that will be going into the high-end 4870 cards. That is going to give the chip a SERIOUS boost in bandwidth. Once you add that to a core running at a higher clock, it isn't so wild to consider that the card might match or surpass a GTX260. The GTX280, on the other hand, it will probably be the highest performing single GPU in this generation.

The 4870 GDDR5 card will be a VERY impressive card. No question, the 4870X2 will trounce a GTX280, but then again the GTX280 is a single card, and *technically* a 4870X2 is a dual GPU solution.

Oh right, talking mobile. I really hope that ATI iterates their mobile GPU segment quickly, I want to see their 4000 series in laptops by the end of this summer. If they want to seriously put the hurt on the 8800m GTX, a 3870m isn't going to cut it (though it may be equivalent), a 4850m/4870m, on the other hand, could bring ATI back into the enthusiast gaming mobile market with a sonic boom.