So you thought you were content with DX9 games, think again.

I have some people in my area that think that all they will need are DX9 games such as CSS,CS,BF2,etc.

Ok that's fine but check these babies out, they make me drool.literally.
Call of Duty 4
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World in Conflict(before the DX10 stuff)

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World in Conflit(with the DX10 stuff)

http://us.download.nvidia.com/downloads/nZone/videos/nzm_WIC_WALKTHRU_DX10.mov

Crysis
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well...i'll be getting CoD4 for 360, and as for the other 2, well im not THAT big on RTS games, and crysis...well...although it may be hard to pass up, there will be tons of great fps for 360 like Halo 3, CoD4, MoH:Airborne, etc. plus World in Conflict is gonna be out for 360 too.

so for now im happy with my CS:S and such...

 

Ehhh, I'll believe it when I see it (at a playable framerate).

 

DX10 is great and all, but until the drivers are improved, I'm in no hurry.

 

DX10 is great and all, but until it runs in Windows XP, I'm in no hurry.

 

DX10 looks great, but not good enough to justify the hardware upgrades for most people. I'd rather have DX9 at 60fps than DX10 at 20fps. We'll just have to wait and see how much those bells and whistles are going to cost in frames per second.

 

Realistically virtually anything possible in DX10 can be done in DX9, the only difference is that it might take a bit more effort/thought and you would need a high-end DX9 graphics card to run it while the same look in DX10 might only require a high mid-range GPU. DX10 just means that developers will put their effort into putting all the best effects into the DX10 codepath, while DX9 is resigned to being "the other" code path that has effects that are just good-enough. It helps push DX10 sales, and it really only disadvantages high-end DX9 card owners, since DX9 and their card may not be pushed to the full potential, but since I use a mid-range DX9 card anyways, it doesn't really matter for me. I'll be waiting for DX10.1, which will probably be out next year, and 2nd generation cards (not the fall refresh) before considering jumping in.

 

yeah i agree that dx10 isnt that great right now...thats why i do console gaming cause there is no need to upgrade. i use my computer for just CS:S and some lighter games

 

Umm if any of you have watched any of the e3 coverage, you will find dx10 games like call of duty 4 at very playable frame rates so believe it, I've seen it

Also, that crysis clip is actual footage an it looks pretty playable to me

 

hm...I just hope I won't have to ugprade from my 8600GT haha.

 

Looks great visually but actual game play usually never looks as good as what they release, or the frame rates will be ... horrible.


I dont know what it is but I find the more "realisitic" they try to make games the less fun they are. Not due to the realism aspect, just the graphics and things it feels more like your just in a movie or something, and seems like the controlls and the gameplay go away in favor of better graphics.

 

yes i'm content with my CS:S with dx9. Gameplay is more important than anything else.

 

eh I would grab a DX10 game just to showoff actually...but the fun factor graph on world in conflict seems promising haha.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3029

The latest tests on DX10 playability were disappointing. In fact they were horrible. Basically, unless you have a high-end 8800 or HD 2900 you have no chance in those DX10 games. (Which is probably what those demos use, like a 8800GTX or Ultra with an Quad Core possibly overclocked. Future heavily threaded games are great, but most people won't have quad cores for a while, especially notebooks.) Granted it's still early days and with better drivers and DX10 code things will improve. But, given the amount of improvement needed, the probable best case scenario is low-end 8400/HD 2400 type cards probably have sticking with DX9 and mainstream 8600/HD 2600 type cards will have to stick to non-native resolutions (for most monitors), probably 1024x768 max, with med-low settings. This is why I'm waiting for 2nd gen GPUs.

 

2nd gen CPUs would be nice.

 

LOL, you should know that the crysis trailer you put up is being runned in dx9. This video will show how much cooler dx10 makes it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7gsjHYouRnI

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EDIT: Better yet, go to this link and click jungle fight for the same video in HD

http://crysis-online.com/Media/Videos/hd-video.php

 

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/06/21/dissecting_dx10_uk/
read and i ll help u to pop ur bubbles..

 

I highly disagree with that link, where dx10 makes a huge difference is in its particle affects and lighting affects. It's just up to the devs if they want to take advantage of it or not. Basically any games where things blow up you're going to see a noticeable difference with dx10.

 

Yea, in the end.. DX10 is still a huge blown up bubble by ms for now.. since not much ppl is taking advantage of it.. yet..

 

Hell, I don't care if DX10 isn't the best right now. I haven't gotten a new computer in 5 years. I'm getting a notebook, and I'll be damned if it has anything lower than the 8600GT in it.

 

I think a 8600gt and dx9 puts you at a pretty comfortable game play level.

your not going to be running crysis, ut3, ect in dx10 with high settings, but you cant realisticly expect it eather usually only the highest tier products for a desktop can handle new games at max settings.

the notebook has to get me thru till the next wave of desktop stuff is out then I will try to build a new desktop, then I can enjoy that kind of stuff.

 

everything is so pricey right now for new-gen stuff =/

 

I saw little difference between the effects in that DX9 and DX10 comparison of Crysis (and no you can't mention the grenade or the trees falling down because they didn't even throw a grenade or shoot a tree in the DX9 version)

Only thing I saw was slightly better lighting and texture detail. Thats nowhere near enough for me to go out and buy a DX10 card + DX10 only game, especially with the frame rates these games have been getting.

I'll stick with CS:S for now.

 

hl2 and bf2...those have to be the best dx9 games out, which are a lot of eye candy if you can run them on maxxed out settings. I'd be happy if valve could start getting more high quality dx9 games like hl2. As for dx10...until we can actually play a great dx10 title...it's all just hype. Plus all the dx10 laptop cards out right now are medium range cards that IMO are worthless when it comes to graphic intensive games.

 

the main point is, if you really want a good dx10 card that can play games like crysis at or very close to max settings, buy a desktop.

 

Go to the link i gave and check out the other dx9 dx10 comparison to see grenade differences.

 

I'm with you. I'm a graphics whore and I can't really see much of a difference in the Crysis videos. There are differences, but they're usually pretty subtle. Of course, it doesn't help that it compares two difference scenes - I mean, there are noticeable light beams coming through the trees in the DX10 video, but is that just because of that specific location used, or because that features is only available in DX10? I'd really like to see a comparison video where the scenes they compare are actually the same, and preferably side-by-side. Or like those screenshots where you mouse-over and it changes from one to the other. But as it stands, if someone showed me a random Crysis video and didn't label it, I wouldn't be able to tell you whether it was DX9 or DX10.

 

I am at that point in life where I am re-evaluating how I go about things. I won't be needing a new system until at least after I graduate in another 2 summers (hopefully first class honours lol) and I will be... 21... I think lol

I reckon a slick 13.3" laptop with "moderately good" gaming capabilities and pair that either with a
~ home console, or
~ a tricked out desktop

No more laptop gaming for me after this beauty goes on me. That way I know with a console every game works, or with a tricked out desktop it will last for a good while and I can still upgrade it

 

Neither, but ONE video I have seen shows the differences a lot more clearly - I can't watch it to check just now, but I think it's the "Hunter" one on this site http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2509.

Check out the swirling fire and rain. Maybe it's not enough for you still, but it's quite clear to see.

 

That hunter one is the other dx10 vid i was talking about. The light you saw in the other vid of crysis is dx10 only, thats the only kind of stuff you get with dx10 that dx9 cant support. Like i said before particle effects and explosions is what dx10 gives you.