So, 7990M..

What's the chance of a 7990M release?

Even if it is just a 7970M with higher clocks, is there enough headroom for a new card to be released this generation?
I can't imagine AMD not releasing a new card until the next generation to be honest.

I got a 6990M a couple of months back and I can't justify upgrading after a few months, although the performance looks astounding.

 

No use speculating until a credible source discovers any rumors, or leaks etc.

Do you need a 7990M? Is the 7970M not enough? Is your 6990M not enough? Are the new benchmarks on the 7970M making you not appreciate your 6990M anymore?

Personally if I dump this amount of money, I expect to use it at least 2-3 years before I even begin to think about upgrading.

 

Personally, I think it depends on how good performance the 680M over 7970M really is. If they truly are neck on neck in performance there is no need for AMD to release a slightly overclocked 7970M. They will wait for 8000M series instead with improved architecture I think

 

Unless that is that the 7970M beats the 680M by a lot, which would make a whole lot of sense to release another model to.. how do I say it nice.. boot stamp on nVIDIA

 

AMD is already offering their flagship GPU for $300 less than Nvidia. There is no need for a new GPU if they perform the same.

They can just sit back, let the rumors spread around and let the money pour in

 

No extra shaders to enable = no 7990M.

 

Oh I did not know that, how come?

 

7970M is a full chip with no disabled shaders.

 

I can still see ATI doing something or pulling something off. Even if it is just raising the clocks slightly companies love to get a new revision into the works ready for when the refresh of the IVY is ready to come out.

But what is said is true, no extra shaders, 7970M is a full 100watt while the 6970M was 75-100watt and the 6990M was the full 100.

However if there is no 7990M hopefully the 8 series will be on its way sooner 8)

 

Is a paired down Tahiti completely outside of the realm of possibility?

 

From what I have read the 7970M isn't outperformed by the 680M. Nvidia really should be ashamed to charge such high prices for their product.

AMD have no need to take their profits and drill it into the production of a slightly better card if the 7970M is already the perfect condender.

The fact that the 7970M costs $300 less and is very OCable makes them the only option for sane people. AMD will reap the rewards and ultimately reward us next generation and crush nvidia again

 

just as the benchmarks&gaming fps going now, the comparison between 7970m and 680m is much like 6990m vs 580m, so i dont think a 7990m is needed. but lets just wait for some real experiences with 680m, as i know someone is about to get his rig within one or two weeks

why not just overclocking it since 7970 has a fair consumption now, look my sig and an offical oc can bring it from 480 to 580

 

It would perform worse at this power level so outside of a workstation card for compute it makes no sense. Also 384bit bus on mxm-b would be a nightmare. If you cut it down then it just gets even slower.

 

Haha no. We will see at least one rebrand until anything actually new comes out.

 

Really? What makes you say that?

 

Well just think about it. Launching one card and then nothing for a year or more? Seems unlikely.

 

His 6th sense I guess.. who knows, business ways are not consumer ways

 

6990m had more shaders while the 3870, 4870 and 5870 never saw a revision or a rename so i fail to see the trend you are drawing from.

 

A year? Nah, the 8000 series will probably be here when we enter 2013. So more like 6month-ish
I can`t really understand why they need to release a new GPU unless Nvidia beat them by 10%-ish and above. If NBC review turns out to be true, AMD have everything in the clear. No need for a new GPU unless Nvidia start dumping the price of the 680M (which won`t happen)

 

Another thing I've learned on the NBR. You guys are awesome.
Where did you get this info from? And in the future when new GPU's come out what are the most important specs I should focus on. I.e checking out specs like a pro

 

Its pitcairn xt, check the die shots and count them yourself if you like. Read a review of the 7870 desktop core if you want a detailed breakdown, anandtech articles are good for this. Knowledge on which core is being used and its specs just come from reading reviews and knowing the industry.

 

The first thing you should be doing is paying attention to desktop cards, as mobile cards are almost always direct, lower clocked translations of desktop cards.

For instance:

580M = 560 Ti
6990M - 6870
680M = GTX 670

And so on it goes.

 

this is one very interesting info as ive always hoping one of the newer mobile card would come out with 384 bus. could you please explain why it would be bad on a mxm-b socket? and tbh i dont really know much details about mxm-b except its used for mobile graphics. and if ever, if its possible will there be a day we see 384?

 

AMD needs to write proper CF drivers for the 7970 first before releasing anything else.

 

Tracing and room, look at a 7970M, now add 50% more memory chips, 50% more tracing. I'm sure these PCBs are already using a lot of layers and are expensive (see Asus and samsung using larger designs that use less layers to save costs). You just add to that issue.

 

Absolutely! No point humping out the hardware continuously, when one can't find the time to provide (regularly updated) software to back it up, ie. driver support.

 

when will this be released

 

On the ides of march.

 

It won't............... I thought we already covered this.

 

Would have been leaked or announced by now even if they considered it which they wont. Roll on 8 series