Spore, Mass Effect PC require verification every 10 days

ok there's a couple of things that can go wrong with this.

1. people would hate this validation thing and just plain won't buy the game
2. can't make backup copies of the game even if you buy the original
3. you're going to have to have internet connection to play it so no roadtrip fun.
4. regardless of the 'security' features, a couple of days and someone will have had some sort of crack/patch for it.
5. companies who make good games shouldn't even need to worry about this...The Elder Scrolls:Oblivion, GTA series all sold millions of copies and don't give the comsumers the crap the Spore/ME people are thinking...heck i'd say GTA and Oblivion have the most cracks/patches/trainers/mods out of any game and the makers could care less.

 

God...not buying it.
Just look back at Bioshock. Real customers still have to go through the activation junk, while the pirates run rampant with their Better-Than-Legal version, with the activation mechanism removed, the game actually ran faster...yeah....real smart to implement this....activation process...

NOT going to support bioware....what do those developers think of us PC owners now? Pirates? wft? Console versions of the game doesn't have to go through that, why PC? Most of the developers were initially PC game designers, but now they are dropping their original fan base? Rockstar anyone?

 

Yes and adding a root-kit to Sony's CDs helps increase sales.

The Music industry already learned it's a ridiculous battle where you just alienate those who would buy but can't figure out how to disable malware/nagware/DRM.
And it does nothing to prevent Piracy. Those who are dedicaed pirates simply use better counter measures. And those who think consoles are the answers obviously are ignorant of the console mod/hack scene.

Jebus! Dramatic much?

Every time a pirate dnlds a file a baby's soul in heaven is torn assunder...

I 'pirated' a heck of alot more when I was a kid (pretty much only DL to pre-test a no-demo game) for the PC, AppleII and C64, when it was simply called copying and it didn't seem to kill PC gaming then, and won't now either. It'll just vacilate back and forth like it always had with people screaming "the shy is falling" for every change that's new to people new to gaming and whose experience with PC gaming is limited to geo/vert shaded titles.

In the end whatever they come up with will be circumvented in no time, whether it's on the PC or console, any move to change the landscape will simply push the counter resources in that direction too.

 

This is promoting piracy more than anything. Why should people pay for the real thing and have to get their key verified every 10 days rather than download a cracked copy? I'll give this thing a day to get cracked. It won't lower piracy at all, rather increase piracy.

 

Yep, just another challenge for the pirates. Who can do it the quickest? I usually download no-DVD cracks anyhow because I don't want to fish out my DVD's all the time.

 

I'll definitely still buy spore, I mean I've been waiting for it for a couple years now.

But I think this is an incredibly stupid move on the part of the publisher, I'm sure it won't last long.

 

I will second that, your just plain ignorant, I doubt anyone on this site has not pirated at least one thing, may it be a movie, game, music, etc.

Piracy will never be solved, the pirates are usually always one step ahead of the corporations, and honestly why payfor something when you dont have to. Sure gaming is fun and I like to do it, but I have more important things to spend my money on.

 

Maybe I'm the only one....but my love for all games Bioware, and Mass Effect won't stop me from actually BUYING this game. So I won't have any problems with the validation.

 

wow, so if i go to the beach with my family over the summer for over 10 days, I can no longer play these games?

that's total bush league. whoever is arguing in favor of this or is saying "deal with it" has no life. i mean honestly, i have spurts of weeks where i want to go golfing after work, i want to go to a baseball game, i want to go to the beach..... i don't want to have to check in on a game every 10 days that i payed good money for to work.

i bought this game to enjoy, not to babysit it.

 

Add two games to my "To Pirate" list.

 

rofl....nice. it probably won't take too long to remove the validation file though...im guessing

 

I'll buy it a get a no-cd and activation crack like I do with all my games. They should just have put the game on steam.

 

I also like Steam. At first when HL2 first came out it was really unsure...but now it works pretty much flawelessly, I'd love to be able to buy all of my games off of steam.

 

wow you are so cool. "People" like you are the reason **** like that is there in the first place.

 

Cool, whatever, I buy what's worth buying to me.

 

Not really a big deal to me, but then again this is coming from someone who's connected to the internet practically everywhere she goes. 12mbps connection in my home, wireless access throughout my entire school, and at least one wireless hotspot every 300m covering my entire country. As long as it does it quietly, doesn't hog up resources, and I don't see it, it's fine.

I personally prefer the Steam platform against piracy though. In fact, I love the ability to tie all your games to your account and be able to bring it any computer without having to care about lost CDs or CD-keys. The only thing that bugs me is that if you have a hundred games tied to that one account, only one person can play it at one time.

 

Um, wouldn't it have a bit more impact if you didn't buy their game?

"Here's $50, now please don't do this DRM crap again" doesn't seem a very convincing argument.

 

For me, it's not that it's a hassle to verify every 10 days, but it's the concept of how we're being manipulated into doing so, even after legally purchasing a copy of the game. Oh well, even that won't keep me away from Spore.

 

thats not true, only one person can appear on friends and play online at one time. multiple people can sign onto your account and play any game they want as long as it doesn't require online play. so most single player games can be played on multiple computers using one account.

 

Technically, having more than one person play on a steam account is violating Valve's Terms of Use policy, but I don't see what's wrong with two siblings playing the same account when the other person isn't playing.

My roommate and his younger brother both play CS from time to time. It's awesome when they both try to log on at the same time, and one person gets booted off.

As for the 10 day verification, I think it's stupid and over the top. I'd go as far to say that I wouldn't even purchase games that had such a system in place. As a casual gamer, I sometimes go weeks without playing video games. You're telling me that I need to log in every ten days so I can continue playing a game I purchased?

As a software developer, I'm not an advocate of piracy, but I can see how this would be an incentive for people to pirate the game.

 

Hey I don't plan on buying either of the titles either, and didn't buy Bioshock either, but I'll still play them. Not to be cool, but because I can if I so chose.
I buy my games, usually pre-order, but I don't give up my rights or a nice clean computer to do so.

And no, these restrictions were not put in place for people like me, who would buy any game I want to play, even if I may DL it first for a quick look. They were put in place by accountants who think something is lost when the people who would never pay for a game didn't have to pay.

It's "People like you" who ruin it for everyone else because you accept things like root kits as fine because of the actions of those who won't even be affected by these changes.

What you fail to understand is many people who will put this on their "pirate list" wou;d've paid $50 without this stupid measure, and those people are not the ones who are causing this knee jerk reaction, but it does now mean that those otherwise customers are now going to support the pirates instead of the developers. What good is that other than to someone trying to pretend that they are 'doing something' about piracy.

Getting paid for your work is one thing, putting this crap on the system of people who've paid is competely different.

 

I dont like it anymore than the next guy, but you really cant blame em, if piracy wasnt so ramapant, this thread wouldnt exist. I'm not happy about the restrictions, but that wont stop me from buying the game, the folks that went to all the time and trouble to produce it deserve to protect it, simply asking folks not to steal doesnt work, so more drastic measures have to be used, or just stop support for the pc alltogether, (which sadly is becoming current trend)

The 10 day thing really isnt as bad as some folks are making it, and I have a very strong feeling its only going to be temporary anyway, kinda like bioshocks limited install restrictions. Bottom line, if the game looks compelling enough for me to purchase, I'll do so, legally, as long as the anti piracy measures dont bork up other functions of my rig, I'll put up with them.

 

i was going to buy spore, now i won't.

probably wouldn't have bought mass effect either way.

 

So for those of you who are going to pirate the game and refuse to buy it because you are so against the DRM, why can't you just buy a copy of the game and DL a hacked copy as well? That way you are downloading a game you already own, and much less harm is done.

Oh right, something about the fact that you were going to pirate it anyway, and you were looking for any excuse to not purchase it. Yeah, nevermind what I said.

 

I'm sorry, but I totally agree with you. I can understand pirating things, as we all have done so in the past. But, now your all just making excuses to cover your asses when you pirate these games anyway. Good job guys.

 

If you buy the game you are in effect telling Bioware and EA that putting DRM on their software has no negative impact on the bottom line.

Hmm.... all the games I have on all the computers I own have been purchased through legal channels. But please don't let reality interfere with your confabulations.

 

all these losers ****ing disgust me

 

How about I donate $50 to the EFF instead?

Like lemur says, buying a copy simply supports their idea that this is a good thing, and reinforces the practice people are wanting them to stop.

Hey if I were going to Dnld this anyways, I wouldn't give a flying FAQ nor try to defend the position of people like me equally pi$$ed off, and I wouldn't waste my time explaining it to people who regularly like a DRM suppository and don't understand the source of the backlash. If it weren't for the backlash of similar tactics in the Music industry you wouldn't be able to remix or back-up your bought and paid for music library, and you'd have to pay every time you ripped your own CD to your portable music device, or made your own ringtone, just because some accountant felt the companies were forgoing X number of dollars that don't exist anywhere but in their heads.

Y'all can think what you want about whether people would pirate anyways, you obviously think every dnlder/pirate is the same anyways.
Personal I prefer to walk into EB or BB and buy it, usually not worth the time to look for a good crack to me in general, but for things like this and Bioshock (which has nothing to do with install#) I'll forgo that and simply get it whenever I finally get a working warez. In the end it's still sales -1 (since I wouldn't waste my time with ME).

 

Not if you cost them money on support... especially with multiple purchase tags next to your name. (Bioware's site tracks the games you purchased from them.)

These companies are more likely to listen to the users who actually buy their games than they are to the hordes of people silently "protesting" by choosing not to buy the game and then hacking themselves a free copy.

The point is to encourage the game companies to make the games, but not to be idiots.
Offer legit users continuing additional content only available online which requires a legit key (not on the cracked list) to get.
Addons and PC-only content downloadable via their site which requires a legit key would have been a MUCH better solution.
Thus you can play the game as long as you wish in its current form, but need the internet connection and the legit key to get the custom content.

You catch more flies with honey...

 

im not wasting my time bothering their support resources for $50 of their time.

im just not going to buy the game now. simple as that. im not going to pirate it. im not going to steal it. but im also not going to buy it.

against drm 100%. it is not the direction i want software to go, and i will not support it. its up to the software company to figure out a working system to get fairly paid, but i hope that companies that flip up their middle finger to their own consumers lose in end, even if its just experimental. the THOUGHT that it is ok to even try something like that is wrong imo.

 

This is disgusting seriously, id rather pirate those games now or get the 360 version, ive been holding out for it and now they force this trash on us?

Power to the pirates, its crap like this that antagonises gamers

 

There is NEVER a reason to pirate games. Don't get all puffy and use the "well, they make it too hard to get it legally" BS.

If you don't like the DRM, DON'T BUY THE GAME, DON'T PLAY THE GAME.

 

Personally I won't buy them... right away. I'll wait until they disable such measure (think 2K with Bioshock and the DRM nightmare), which at the same time may be when the games becomes cheaper...

And as a side comment: not liking DRM is not a justification for pirating games. The creators deserve a share for their creations. And that being said, a good no-cd crack should be able to solve the issue.

 

I think it's up to the individual to decide whether video game piracy is alright or not. However, as a software developer, I'd like to be compensated for the work that I do. Wouldn't you?

Like Lithus said, if you don't like the DRM policy, don't buy the game. If sales take a hit, companies will take notice and change their policies.

 

Don't kid yourself, YOU are ruining it for everyone else. I don't even want to hear "well i pirated it to test it etc" because the fact is you still pirated a game.

Also im sure many pirates WOULD have bought this if these anti-piracy measures weren't in place. Fat chance.

 

Stealing will hurt them, and itll teach them a lesson or two about undermining the consumer. Yeah every corporation does it, but EA take it to the extreme.

Gamers hate them for a reason, i can tell you that i wouldve bought the game had it not been for this crap they are forcing onto us

 

LOl. I love these justifications for piracy. Stealing is ok, to teach them a lesson? So next time I'm at my local grocery store, I'll just start stealing if I feel their prices are unfair "to teach them a lesson."

 

TheGreatGrapeApe, I understand that not all pirates are the same, but your style of piracy is in the minority. Virtually no pirate is going to go out and buy a game they already spent time pirating.

So why don't we all start a run against the government for forcing us to pay taxes on property we already own? Seriously, answer me that question. People these days just want to keep taking down the corporate giants because they assume the giants must not feel pain. I don't think they know what the term 'anarchy' means, but they really seem to be pushing for it.

The larger issue here is the feeling of entitlement people have over other people's private property.

If you [pirate] keep pirating stuff because you want to stick it to EA for their DRM I might as well move my entire dormitory into your house. You can't stop me, because I have a right to 'teach you a lesson' and if you tell on me then you are just a corporate tool too blind to understand freedom.

Ugh, selfish infantile moron anarchists, all of them.

GET A JOB!