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    Star Wars: The Old Republic - Collectors Edition Sold Out in 5 Hours

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Voodooi, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. Voodooi

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    https://preorder.origin.com/?&locale=en_US

    Pre-orders went online at 3AM and by 8AM, Collectors Edition was sold out.

    I know that some physical stores are getting a limited amount of copies (Collectors Ed.), so if you guys really want it, you should call your local gaming store ASAP. I had to put a 10$ deposit for mine earlier today.

    49.99$ = Standard
    79.99$ = Deluxe
    149.99$ = Collectors

    This game is going to be a major hit.

    First come, first serve -- meaning the sooner you pre-order, the more likely you'll be in the first BETA waves.

    I'm so hyped up for this game, can't wait! :)

    What class are you guys going to play?

    I'm planning on playing the Bounty Hunter.
     
  2. tetutato

    tetutato NBR Troll

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    Oh wow lol What does the collectors edition include?
     
  3. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Code:
    Star Wars™: The Old Republic™
    COLLECTOR'S EDITION Pre-Order Exclusive:
    Early Game access
    Color Stone (virtual item)
    30 Days Game Time included
    Limited Collector's Edition Includes:
    Exclusive Gentle Giant Darth Malgus statue
    Game disks collectible metal case
    The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural as annotated by Satele Shan
    The Old Republic galaxy map
    Custom Security Authentication Key
    Music of Star Wars: The Old Republic CD
    High-quality Collector's Edition box
    Includes 7 Additional Digital Items:
    Flare Gun
    Training Droid
    HoloDancer
    HoloCam
    STAP
    Exclusive Mouse Droid
    Exclusive Collector's Edition Store
     
  4. GeorgeOkeefa

    GeorgeOkeefa Notebook Consultant

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    Wow, shoulda jumped on that. Will probably sell for at least 400 after release
     
  5. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Has Bioware announced the monthly subscription fee? $10/month? $20/month? If not, are these people actually buying the game without having any idea how much more they will have to pay every month?

    The game looks like a lot of fun, and it has a lot of things going for it. However, there are many potential customers like me who have never played MMOs before and simply have no interest in paying a monthly fee for a single game.

    Why spend $60 to buy this game when I can buy Skyrim for $60 and play it for years with no additional costs?

    For $8/month I already have unlimited access to every movie and TV show on Netflix. Why would I want to pay that much to have access to a single game that I already bought?

    The $60 pricetag comes with 30-day trial period, but I don't imagine I would ever pay $60 for a game that I can only play for 1 month. I'm honestly somewhat surprised they are even charging anything at all for the game, after all, why not offer it for free and get people hooked, making them pay the monthly subscription fee if they want to continue playing after the trial period.
     
  6. Voodooi

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    It'll be the standard 15$/mo.

    Paying monthly is pretty normal in the MMO world. Players receive content patches for the life of the game, which can include instances, gear, talents, classes, specs, etc.

    Monthly fees are better than free MMO's with micro-transactions because the playing field is balanced for everyone. Free MMO's requires cash investments to get ahead (at least the one's I've tried). :)
     
  7. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Interesting. I've never played any MMOs before. TOR looks like it would be fun, but I guess you have to consider the real cost of the game being along the lines of $60 + $180 ($15 x 12 months), or $240, basically to buy this game if you plan to play it for a year.

    The cost per hour of entertainment value seems quite high for TOR compared to open world RPGs like Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, etc., or strategy games like Civ5., that work out to a few pennies per hour of entertainment value if you play them for hundreds or thousands of hours over a period of years.

    Is it common for these MMO games to charge an additional $60 fee to get the install disc, beyond the monthly subscription fee? I thought, for example that games like WoW were free to download, you just have to pay the monthly fees.
     
  8. Voodooi

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    Yup.

    The top MMO's I've played always charge 50-60$ for the game initially, followed a monthly subscription fee.

    WoW is free to download as a trial, up to level 20. Beyond that, you're required to pay for the game and its expansion packs as well as the monthly fee. Last time I checked, the entire package was about 60-70$~ for the entire lot (game+expansions).

    It might sound a little expensive, but the gaming experience in some of these MMO's is superb and very entertaining. :)
     
  9. Tree_Burner

    Tree_Burner Notebook Deity

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    I can't stand MMO's. I got to lvl 14 on wow and had to quit due to sheer boredom. I'm glad I didn't pay for it. :/ This on is tempting but I can't afford to waste my money if I don't find it interesting.
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    I knew it was going to be monthly! Glad I went with Guild Wars 2! :D
     
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    dummy27 Notebook Consultant

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    I thought this was going to be free to play. Man, I'm so late lol.
     
  12. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    The pricing is pretty ridiculous considering how little information Bioware gave out about the game. If it's going to be a great game they would release much more info / gameplay footage, like what arenanet is doing with GW2.

    Suspicious. It feels like what happened with a few other big MMO titles in the recent past.
     
  13. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Username traitor ;)
     
  14. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Sorry, I won't succumb to the monthly payment model, even if the Battlefield series took that route I wouldn't. $180/year + $50 (or more) for a game? No thanks.
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    True KotOR ended with KotOR II. TOR is just a badly justified rip-off. ;)
     
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    It is still a long way from being released (some time in mid-2012, right?).

    I guess they wanted to start taking pre-orders early to have some beta testers or something. Maybe they figure the people who are actually willing to pay money now will be forgiving testers.
     
  17. Arondel

    Arondel Notebook Evangelist

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    From what I read, the game is scheduled to launch this year (2011).
    Also, pre-ordering doesn't get you into Beta. It justs gives you the opportunity to play pre-launch (it would be more of a server stress test).
     
  18. Bearclaw

    Bearclaw Steaming

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    You're buying a game with forced scarcity (how do you run out of pre-orders for an online game?), which has no release date, no gameplay trailers, not much information at all.

    Hope you know what you're getting yourself into.
     
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    As much as I am looking forward to this game and will definitely buy it, there is no way I'm pre-ordering it. Maybe because of my location, but I've yet to encounter a problem finding a collector's edition of anything in my neck of the woods after launch, on the shelves and available.

    I'm sure they will have another wave of Collector's Editions considering the game isn't slated for release for another 6 months. In the realm of computer gamers, collectable editions = as many as we can sell.

    Still really excited about the game though. Maybe we will actually have our first WoW killer.
     
  20. GamingACU

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    The way I look at it is $15/month is cheap for all the hours of entertainment you're getting comparatively. I mean that's the price of 1 movie ticket (and that's if you go alone and don't get food) or a fast food meal. If you only played an average of 1 hour per day that's only $0.50 per hour of entertainment, hard to find that else where.

    You also can't compare single player games to MMOs because people that enjoy MMOs generally enjoy them for the interaction with other live people, which no single player game can replicate.

    Edit: Also I won't be getting this game because it looks awful imo. I'll most likely be going the GW2 route, or maybe Tera if it actually becomes a hit (not looking good at this point though).
     
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    Can't say I disagree but I am going to at least give it a shot anyway. I wish they would make a KOTOR3 that
    was about the Exile going in search of, and finding, Revan. Then they team up to stop the "True Sith"
     
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    Presumably they ran out of the little figurines that come with the game. I'm sure they'll make more though.

    Other than that, I agree with you -- preordering this half a year in advance makes no sense.
     
  23. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    and seeing what TOR is you are going to fail in the end


    I dont like MMOs, since my last gf said that I would be easily addicted to it, as she was. Aside this the real thing is the one HTwingnut pointed out, its a complete rip off 180/year is too much. But this one I would be sure to give it a try, to see for myself if it is worth or not. I however couldnt pre order yesterday, due to my location, pretty bad for a game that is supposed to be global.
     
  24. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Exactly. $15 a mo. is way too steep for me. Maybe if they gave the game for free.

    Anyways, it's probably just gonna be a WoW clone with Star Wars skins.
     
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    ^ We will see, but for sure the hype is already quite high. Hope it will not reach a 'Godzila-like' type of hype.
     
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    Not necessarily. You could have a horror-movie success. You win and think you beat the bad guy but at the end he pops out.
     
  27. Voodooi

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    Release Date?
    Q4-2011.

    Pre-Orders?
    They only ran out of Collectors Edition, which comes with physical steel casing for the DVD's, a miniature statue, maps and documents.

    Digital Deluxe and Standard Edition are still available in unlimited quantities.

    Classes?

    http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes

    Trailers?
    Youtube is full of them. Perhaps you should of spent 10 seconds with google before claiming there wasn't any?

    Cinematic Trailers?

    My two favourites:

    YouTube - Star Wars : The Old Republic | E3 cinematic trailer (2011)

    ‪Star Wars: The Old Republic E3 2009 Jedi vs. Sith Trailer [HQ] (Rate This Game)‬‏ - YouTube

    Gameplay Trailers?

    Note: This is the first MMO to have voice acting incorporated into the entire game.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nqdbiy3bE

    ‪Star Wars: The Old Republic Walkthrough Trailer [HD]‬‏ - YouTube

    (several others easily found through a youtube search)

    Space Combat?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6SkVaqY1rc

    *Every player receives a ship later in the game

    ---

    Game is still being polished, just remember :)

    And even so, Story/Experience > Graphics.
     
  28. GamingACU

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    Now if the gameplay looked like the E3 trailer I'd totally buy this, however, that is nowhere near the case.
     
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    Unfortunately they want it to appeal to the masses, so the graphics wouldn't be able to come anywhere close to the E3 trailer :p It's still being polished, so one can hope for Rift gameplay-like graphics or better ;)
     
  30. GamingACU

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    The current gameplay videos look like WOW with loose resemblances to lightsabers (if it doesn't actually cut things in half it's not a light saber) and blasters.

    It's mid 2011 people, and the new batch of MMOs probably won't be around until at least Q1 2012. I expect at least Aion quality graphics, minimum.
     
  31. ViciousXUSMC

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    I may try out GW2 due to no monthly fee but I dont think I can get into another Pay to Play MMO, I dont have the time or money to give away and I end up trying to play as much as possible to get my "moneys worth" and it ends up not being a good idea.

    That noted I thought this game was out already, must be another Star Wars MMO that is already out?? or I am just thinking it was out already.
     
  32. GamingACU

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    Star Wars Galaxies was the one from SOE that was released a long time ago. This isn't out yet.
     
  33. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    ah indeed, but I like anti climatic endings, not always we win in RL, why would we always win in movies and games?
     
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    What's with all the hate for monthly subscription fees? It's not like it's a particularly new business model--most older MMOs still use it. I'm more surprised at the steep CE price--I see CE editions 2x the price of the standard edition fairly often, but 3x?
     
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    I think it's because a lot of us who have never played MMOs before but enjoy Bioware games or Star Wars were considering buying TOR.

    I had no idea about the pricing until a couple days ago.
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    indeed thats exactly my thinking, its too much not worth it
     
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    LOL it's an EA game, of course they're going to try and get as much money out of you as possible. I wouldn't doubt if there's a cash shop as well.
     
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    Part LucasArts too but LucasArts are doing nothing to the game but just the Star Wars licencing and part royalties to George Lucas lol...
     
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    Exactly. It's not like 15$/mo is a big deal.

    That's 1.5hrs of a minimum wage job per month (at least where I live).

    For the amount of entertainment a good MMO can provide, it's worth every penny :p

    Heck -- If you go to the movies, a ticket is generally 10$ for 1.5-2hrs of entertainment and that's without the overpriced popcorn/drinks/snacks.
     
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    I'm really liking the videos I've seen so far and I've been interested in trying the game, but I've never played MMOs before and it just seems too expensive.

    I'm just not comfortable paying $60 for a game I can only play for 30 days.

    Or $75 for a game I can only play for 60 days

    Or $240 for a game I can only play for 1 year.

    If they had made the game free to download and install, to try for 30 days or 15 days before charging my credit card for the monthly fee, I would have probably tried it.

    But I'm not going to pay $60 for a 30-day trial.
     
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    I haven't looked into the actual pricing plan, but many MMOs that use the subscription model give "discounts" if you buy more than one month at a time. Typically, you'd get the first month for free, and then if you feel like you would be willing to stick with the game for 3, 6, or 12 months, you buy a corresponding plan and supposedly save some money in the long run.

    I say supposedly because I almost always get tired of any MMO before the 3 or 6 month mark, but if you're sure you'll be playing that long (and the MMO will actually be alive that long), it might be a good choice.

    Also, sometimes, games will let you download demos (or maybe from a buddy pass), so you don't have to buy the whole thing right away.