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    Starcraft II Beta Over :(

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ViciousXUSMC, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    So who enjoyed it? Who has the game on reserve?

    I was enjoying it a lot, I was going between BFBC2 and SC2 at first, but after about a week I went full SC2 gaming.

    While it was fun and challenging for me to do the main game mode, I found 1v1 to be a great test of skill, and 2v2 to be a little more lax since there was more luck involved.

    It was when custom games were opened that it really got great. In just days all types of games came out similar to some of the ones we played on WC3. I can only see it getting much much better as people learn the map creation program more and learn from other users.

    I'll try to play the "real game" once in a while but chances are I will be a custom map junkie, buying one game (like with warcraft 3) is like buying over 500 smaller mini games that can entertain for a very long time, so for that reason I think its going to be a good game to get and a good investment.

    @ my BFBC2 guys, I hope to get back on there with you soon probably going to be super noob now after not playing in so long! I also have Mario Galaxy to take down, and I just finished dual modding my fightstick tournament edition today so it can work on my Wii now and that means play TvC!!
     
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    Over quite a few days ago, just when I want to log in for a few games of custom map, it tells me beta is over... sad... Definitely will purchase the game for custom map, warcraft 3/frozen throne was the best game purchase I've ever made just because of the custom map.
     
  3. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah over a few days ago, been to busy to play until now though.
     
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    I'm afraid I won't be buying SC2, in the end. The price + the DRM + the atrocious display of corporate bungling that is Battle.NET 2.0 (mostly the latter) ruins what is otherwise a great game, for me anyways.

    There's a good article about it here.
     
  5. Signal2Noise

    Signal2Noise Über-geek.

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    I did not enjoy it.*

    However, I do have the CE pre-ordered already.


    (*)-because although I was signed up for beta I never did get an invite. :(
     
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    Got all the way up to Diamond for 1v1 on the last weekend.

    28 game win streak FTW.

    PlayXP

    StarCraft II Beta - English (EU) Forums -> Nerf June

    PlayXP a really close group that to Blizzard in Korea that organizes a lot of tournaments and a post by one of the Blizzard Community Team members both indicate that the beta will resume the last week of June.

    Here's hoping. :)
     
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    lowlymarine's link made me depressed. :(
     
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    KernalPanic White Knight

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    I'll be skipping it.
    No LAN, no sale.
     
  9. fzhfzh

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    Sigh... That link just made me reconsider my purchase...
     
  10. ronnieb

    ronnieb Representing the Canucks

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    Yep... same here. Now I'm really debating though :\
     
  11. Shadowfate

    Shadowfate Wala pa rin ako maisip e.

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    WOW that was depressing :(

    Hmmmmm maybe ill just first wait.

    I think I'l just use the money to buy MoH or a new HD instead. I hope DICE and EA wont follow this fiasco and just release a game like BC2 in features.
     
  12. fzhfzh

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    It's fun of custom game vs supporting the evil of activision (and Blizzard that's being brought over to the darkside by activision).
     
  13. @nthony

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    Played it once mid-beta and never played it again. If I do buy it, it will be purely for peer/nostalgic reasons.
     
  14. Shadowfate

    Shadowfate Wala pa rin ako maisip e.

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    If i do buy it cheap. I will only play SP.
     
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    The region locked Bnet is the biggest turn off... If I have friends who bought the south east asia version, while I bought the US version, it's simply screwed.
     
  16. Shadowfate

    Shadowfate Wala pa rin ako maisip e.

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    Yup when i read what was discussed by the author of the link i was really surprised and i thought LAN was the only problem :(

    And i thought Ubisoft was the only company that has a bad influence when it comes to games now it looks like ActivisionBlizzard wants to beat them.
     
  17. Vaath

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    LOL that link is alot of reading and i'm tired and lazy :p

    I have on pre-order and will keep on it pre-order. In fact i'm buying my friend his copy for his birthday next month, we both played beta and loved it. Basically short of charging for battle.net I can't see a feature or lack there of that would kill it for me. But then i'm a sucker for Blizzard games :D
     
  18. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    I cant access the link because of our firewall. Can anyone sum up the problems?
     
  19. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    That link felt like a knife in the side. :(



    I was really enjoying the beta , but got burned out because of the lack of change and lack of variation s to units, buildings, and strategies within.
    I love a good rts as much as the next guy but with some many limitationsand annoying fees (paying for maps? Good for the developer, expensive for the gamer), and lack of LAN play just doesn't work for me


    ...NEED MORE VESPYNE GAS
     
  20. @nthony

    @nthony Notebook Evangelist

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    yakkity yak yak campy references to things that are more sad than funny and crude language that is a poor attempt at comedy all the while describing obvious symptoms anyone who knows anything about the current state of the game industry would have seen coming long ago.

    tl;dr nothing you haven't heard before. even the beloved Blizzard has succomb to Bobby Kockdick practices.
     
  21. Baka

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    Well I never even noticed there's the region lock thing until a few weeks after the beta launch :/ It's really a turn off. "Trying to prevent lag" they say. Well give us LAN then instead of locking it to a region :/

    I'm still getting it anyways for the single player and just to keep my friends company :/
     
  22. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    why is everyone so bothered about LAN option these days? Most people have a router to share net access if they want to lan at home so therefore just use battlenet. Or am I missing something?
     
  23. lowlymarine

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    Have you ever tried to have eight people play on an internet server over one typical home internet connection (say, in WoW)? The results aren't pretty.
     
  24. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    No cant say as I have.

    I often have 4-6 player LANs and play forged alliance or SupComm 2 with no problem over the net. My adsl is only 8mb too. I dont know if P2P improves that though as I normally host
     
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    "Only 8mb" D:

    I get 1MBPS max at home
     
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    Well, actually yes, it's true, if you have 8 people playing in lan, using Bnet to play makes no difference, because Bnet is only the match maker, they are not going to waste their bandwidth on hosting your game, after they match your 8 players, it's none of their business, the net host will be the host, and since you are all in LAN, the delay is same as LAN delay. It's the same thing as Warcraft 3 if you use Bnet. Problem is, you need internet connection, and 8 accounts with CD-Key.

    WoW is different because the server is not client side and you will need constant connection to their server.
     
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    Hmm I smell a rise in piracy to play single player and large serving of FU to multi-player.

    The part that is hard to distinguish is who is in charge for StarCraft 2? After reading that article, I get the sense it's Activision at the helm and this game is made for corporates, not for gamers.

    But I agree with that linked article that the average masses won't care. I also think these average masses probably didn't even play the first StarCraft and will buy the game based on the hype or to join the cool crowd.

    The hardcore fans who are used to the play of StarCraft I will be upset for sure.
    - A real punch in the face to the mod community. Anything your publish they can take ownership, modify and release themselves. Wow, I guess that's how Activision-Blizzard shows respect for individual creative work?

    I love the new functions for maintaining friends and communicating... I had my Facebook permanently deleted a few months ago when I had enough of the idiocy. But to read this about RealID? ?
    - Love this quote and totally agree.
    And I have to agree. Using RealID and Facebook is terrible idea. Facebook is just one giant pit of hack, security loop holes and your privacy gone down the toilet. I know in other games, the fastest way to hack was to find someone who announced who they were in game on a forum. And if that person was dumb enough to use same ID on forum and in game, say bye bye to account. This is just terrible, using Facebook not just say bye bye to your $60 game account, if that person hates you, say bye bye to your reputation, email and whatever else.
     
  28. KernalPanic

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    You set up a private game in battlenet... someone uses a hack and bypasses the password and joins anyways and starts with additional units that cannot ever lose the last HP. (they take damage, they simply cannot be killed)

    You figure out halfway through that one of the players isn't one of yours and he gets to sit out while you all get demolished by an unbeatable cheating foe.

    You all quit and make another one... only to be interrupted in the same way for the next 20 times in a row.

    You all go get the anti-hack programs, and game for a day or so peacefully, until someone breaks the anti-hack and you are screwed for a few days and then someone makes the counter.

    2 months into release, a battle.net malware infects everyone connected and blizzard is forced to take it all down for a few weeks to fix it.

    Battle.net is the worst of the worst... the absolute sewer of online community. Anyone over 11 mentally will not want to have anything to do with it after release.
     
  29. Histidine

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    Wow...

    I was going to join this thread, but then all I saw was a bunch of fearmongering and hyperbole.

    Yeah, Battle.net could be better. Yeah, lack of LAN support sucks.

    But that doesn't change the fact that a fantastic, highly-entertaining game is going to be sold at a reasonable charge with dozens of hours worth of entertainment, with a DRM that is BARELY above the level of Stardock's GalCiv2.

    You bet'cher arse I'm gonna be there when it's released (short of some apocalyptic mishap before release like pay-2-play). I'll see ya there.

    And hey, who knows? Maybe someone will release a LAN-enabling crack a couple months after release.
     
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  30. ryukenden

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    Hmmm I wanted to pre-order this. But that link really does point out my original assumptions and their DRM. I'm a hardcore diablo player and not much of SC. Play pretty much for the story. Since they are being evil on this one; Some of us might turn to do odd things. We might just ending up pirate out of spite. Then buy it after a year or something.

    Also, As most pirate knows; you won't able to play multiplayer. Which is stupid of blizzard to incorporate online activation DRM mumbo jumbo. I also heard SP tied with your BNet account for "full" gaming experience.
     
  31. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    Be glad you aren't russian, they will use pay2play. And the code is already integrated into US/EU versions as well, so what's stopping them really..?

    SC2 will sell like crazy because it's branded by Blizzard. Sooner or later people will realize that it's actually activision and the blizzard we used to know no longer exists, but that won't happen in time for this game to have any effect.
     
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    Shame on you, Blizzard, for aligning yourself with the great Satan.
     
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    ActiEVIL has really screwed up a couple potentially awesome games lately, MW2, this.
     
  34. Histidine

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    How the hell is this game "screwed up"?

    Yes, it could be better; but there is still great entertainment value in the single-player, unhampered by intrusive DRM, and vanilla matchmaking and player-made maps are still available via Battle.net, even if chat rooms and LAN aren't.

    Your hyperbole is not helping!
     
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    Fair enough, its not even really released yet so I will wait. My gripe is mostly with Activision.
     
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    I love the ignore function on this forum. Hyperbole.... someone needs a dictionary.
     
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    This makes me cry tiny tears of sadness, but I will still buy it, I will still enjoy it, and you know what, I really won't miss MOST of the features. The only one that is a bummer is the region locking D= that makes me despair the most.
     
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    BTW, I thought the beta was going to be reactivated end of this month for a couple weeks leading into the retail release date to test server load.
     
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    Indeed it's coming back in a couple of weeks :D
     
  40. Histidine

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    From M-W:
    Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
    Function: noun
    : extravagant exaggeration (as “mile-high ice-cream cones”, or "this gaem is teh ruined! F*** u EvilVision, ne1 who plays dis gaem will get a viruz from bnet!!1!")
     
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    When I saw that your game time is extended, game on sh!t, I knew something wasn't right, and true enough they are implementing pay to play in some countries like Russia, I seriously don't get how is being pay to play ever going to entice people that's not going to buy your game in the first place.

    I think I'll just do the "evil thing" to this game by evilvision first for the single player, then perhaps just might buy the game depending on how many of my friends are playing, so that at least I know what damn region they bought so I don't get locked out.
     
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    Whew! Just got done reading that whole thing. That's some serious stuff. Bottom line, this is what happens when corporate greed takes over understanding and supporting their customer.

    The problem is that SC2 will succeed, well, because it's Starcraft. That's too bad too. In a way I wish it would fall flat on its face just to send a message back to Blizzavision or whatever.
     
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    If they fall flat though, their management will say "Damn, screw the PC and their pirates that's causing our abysmal sales, we are shifting Diablo 3 to the consoles!!"
     
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    Pretty positive my exaggeration wasn't near that extreme.
     
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    I'll probably play singe player the "cheaper" way.

    The region lock thing is what I dislike the most. The reason I play online is to kick some foreigner's . Makes me feel like my poor third world country ain't so bad when I get to kick your rich butts at video games. :D
     
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    To be fair, narsnail, you did say the game was ruined, and if you read a few posts up from yours, there is a poster claiming that every user is going to get a virus from Bnet.
     
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    I was once a huge fan of blizzard games. In the days of Warcraft II, Starcraft and Diablo. Unfortunately Blizzards downward spiral towards a corporate entity interested only in their profit margins started with WoW. I played that game for about a year and realized that anythign there after would be be influenced by a production model that reflected highest monetary gain at the expense of all other gaming aspects.

    Alas, but all things good much eventually end, and all Empires must one day crumble to dust.
     
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    Well said for a first post... you must remember though IMO Blizzard has always been a loyal customer company. Its been pressured, bullied and strong armed by its new owner Activision who swooped in with a heartless corporate mentality loyal to only the shareholder.

    I'm no communist and a company has a right to make profit but eventually the consumer can stand up and say no, you no longer have our support and we will not stand for a company who no longer respects the gamers interest and penalizes us for the actions of others. Probably why as much as I love SC2 I'm going to forgo it and buy Witcher 2 out of principle and support for companies that are taking the correct path of action against piracy (not penalizing the good consumer).
     
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    And thats the key really is companies need to make a profit. remember activision is a publicly owned company. So if you guys really are "serious" about making a difference take that $60 you'd spend on SC2 and go buy yourself some ATVI stock. Its currently at 10.86 a share.
     
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