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    Steam Winter Sale is Open

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Atma, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. Atma

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    http://store.steampowered.com/

    I have so many now I haven't even finished not sure I need any. Well .. maybe Prey for $19.99. Never played it.

    Maybe Divinity 2: original Sin but it's still $40. Empires of the Undergrowth looks interesting but it's not really on sale. Early access.
     
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  2. saturnotaku

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    Think I'll pick up Vanquish and GTA V. Glad I didn't get the latter during the last sale as it's cheaper now.
     
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  3. killkenny1

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    Probably won't buy anything again. Have some other games to play, though I barely play them either.
     
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    Since you can't buy and store in gift inventory any more, meh, forget it.
     
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  5. Atma

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    I didn't know you could do that before.
     
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    Yeah, for years and years. I used to buy up games when they were dirt cheap and give them away later. Frequently there were 4-packs so one would be added to your account and the other 3 in your gift account to give to friends. Now you can only gift directly to someone. You can't hold it in your gift inventory.
     
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    That's an awful thing to take away. Steam. If they were worried about it being an issue with currency and exchange rates just make it so you can gift only within your own local dollar or something.
    I'm still grateful for winning for your giveaways from years past! :)
     
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    I should probably play some of the hundreds of games I have in my backlog before buying anything else.........
     
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    I tell myself the same thing. I didn't really buy anything the last few sales compared to previous years.

    I was really hoping to see Divinity:OS II for more than 10% off. Maybe it'll be like a flash sale thing or something but it doesn't appear they are doing any daily deals of any sort.

    Got a gift card.. so I guess I'll start off nabbing Wolfenstein II, I'm a freak for board game adaptations so grabbing Tales from Candlekeep: Tomb of Annihilation...

    I was thinking Assassin's Creed: Origins but I still haven't played Unity which I bought, and I'd rather do that then Syndicate first.

    Hard to believe NieR: Automata isn't in this.

    So many indie type games i'm eyeing up I could nab a few of those..
     
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    Japanese developers tend to be pretty stingy with discounts unless a game is relatively old.
     
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    AC: Origins - yes or no?
     
  12. Mr. Fox

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    Well, hell's bells. That sucks. I've used that feature for years, too. What a shame they did away with it.

    I'm not thrilled with Steam much overall anymore. This is just another item to add onto the gripe list. I can't believe how overrun Steam Store has become with indie game crapware. It's kind of a pain in the butt having to sift through so much litter to find the stuff I am actually looking for in the store. I really despise the queue thing, too.
     
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    Wait a minute... @HTWingNut - lookey here, bro
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  14. HTWingNut

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    Yes you can still buy 4-packs but you have to gift them to your friends right away. You can't store them in your inventory. If that's what you were referring to?
     
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    Ah, ok. Yeah, that sucks.
     
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    Yeah it does suck, because if you know of 1 or 2 others that you can give to right away, but want to wait on the other 1 or 2 you can't.
     
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    Gaben must have been losing too much money on people laundering games through other regions.
     
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    To that point.. I've had a copy of Risk of Rain as well as two copies of Talisman in my inventory for a long time.

    If anyone wants any just PM me your steam ID or email address and I'll gift them over. I've tried twice to give Risk of Rain away First come first serve, I'll edit the post when they are gone. lol.. it's a decent game. Talisman I love just because I can't resist well-made board/card game adaptions.
     
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    That could very well be. In the end, all of us end up suffering because of the dishonesty of a small group. Always happens that way. And, unfortunately, often doesn't fix the real problem because the dishonest people simply find a new way to do their thing.
     
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    I do still have a lot of games in my gift inventory too. I keep thinking I'll give them to my kids, but they're always interested in something else. So maybe I'll have one last final hurrah giveaway here at NBR to clear out my inventory. Then of course as soon as I do that my kids will be ... "DAD! I really want to play this game"... one that I just gave away five copies of. D'oh!
     
  21. LanceAvion

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    Steam hasn't done Flash sales or Daily deals in years. It's unfortunate because now there isn't much reason to check comeback after you get all the games you originally planned to get in the first place. I remember seeing a game I was interested in at say 50% off, and then checking back later to see it a flash/daily sale brought it down to 75% or 90% off. Heck nowadays GreenManGaming and other sites have better deals than Steam does during its sales. Oh well.
     
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    Going to reply to myself lol. I tried digging into AC Unity but it's BSOD'ing my box every 5-15 minutes. I don't have this problem with Wolf II at 4K or ... pretty much every other game.. So not sure what to blame exactly. The BSOD's seem to point at a driver problem. I'm uninstalling RTSS to see if that does anything, I already tried uninstalling Coolsoft VirtualMIDISynth since I re-installed that recently but that wasn't it (would seem odd if it was, but it's a driver essentially so..)

    I'm kind of pointing my finger at nvidia drivers, but if that's it, it's only happening for THAT game...
     
  23. MahmoudDewy

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    Unity was a royal mess for me that I never got to finish the game because of the crashes and bugs. I would say your machine and drivers are ok and it is just the game.
     
  24. killkenny1

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    Ubi did fix it. I played it a year after release and it was fine. Experienced zero problems.
     
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    I don't even want to fire up the game anymore. I don't buy products that are usable only 1 year after purchase.
     
  26. killkenny1

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    IDK when was it when they finally fixed. I just bought ACU after a year of its release and didn't have any problems running it.
    But I do remember what a horrible launch it was and Ubi's stupid attempts justifying all the crap what came wit it.
     
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    Well, OK. I will probably get one game :D
    Been wanting to grab Black Mesa. For a fiver it's a steal!
     
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    I hadn't seen that before. I bought it too.
     
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    I'm not picking up Black Mesa until it gets out of Early Access. Without Xen, I don't really miss out on anything worthwhile if I just play the free mod released in 2012.
     
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    i just bought AC Origins. It seems to run ok at 1080p on very high settings with dynamic resolution on....get a stable 60 in the majority of gameplay instances.
     
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    Just watch your CPU temps when you are playing that ... It is more a stress test than a game when it comes to CPU temps.
     
  32. killkenny1

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    So yeah, grabbed Black Mesa and Brothers In Arms Complete Pack (was pretty cheap). Shame Call Of Duty 1 and its expansion are still expensive (13 Euros for each during sale is expensive as hell!)...
    The rest of my wishlist I will keep for later.
     
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    I figured out the problem by process of elimination after I saw Wolf II finally blue screen, so it wasn't just Assassin's Creed: Unity. Though, for some reason AC:U was BSODing way more often (every 10 minutes vs Wolf II lasting around an hour maybe..), and a number of other games never BSODing except Oblivion crashing often when I was trying that out. Not BSODs though.

    1. Ran hours of passes of MemTest x86 booting off USB; nothing, so I figured a RAM problem was out the window.
    2. Clean re-installed latest nvidia drivers, that didn't help. So much for my history of always doing the GFE express install causing issues. Now I have to set my damn profiles up again. :p
    3. Malwarebytes scan to rule out malware. Was BSODing during the file test, but worked fine in safe mode, probably it's fault as I see people complaining left and right about MBAM BSODs doing google searches. Disabling Windows Defender didn't help it. Owell it found nothing in safe mode so.. whatever.
    4. SpyBot found nothing.
    5. Recalled that I installed the latest Intel WiFi drivers for my 8265 not too-too long ago. Downloaded them straight from Intel so the chance they were compromised is infinitesimal. Uninstalled those and just let windows use the ones it has in it's own repository (I think 19.x version vs 20.x.x ones that are brand new). Bam.. played Wolf II for a few hours last night, just played AC: Unity for around an hour or so... no BSODs.

    I'll have to call this problem licked as I could never get more than 15 minutes out of AC:U without a BSOD happening, usually less.

    Word of warning, don't install the latest Intel 8265 drivers, just use whatever came with Win 10.

    EDIT: LOL... i was like hmmm.. wait a minute... Just reinstalled MBAM and ran a scan. I must have uninstalled it and reinstalled it like 5 times trying to to get it to get through a file scan without a BSOD previously. Since uninstalling the latest 8265 drivers I've now done 3 file scans in a row without a BSOD. Wow. Thanks Intel. :)
     
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    You could also use a tool such as BlueScreenView to read the dump file, which would pinpoint the exact cause of the BSOD.
     
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    That didn't work. It didn't point specifically to the Intel drivers, always the kernel. I spent no small measure of time analyzing dumps. Even installed symbols, which was it's own headache, the sdk installer was giving me problems ended up installing visual studio to get them.
     
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    Wow, now that's dedication!
    However ACU is not worth that kind of dedication...
     
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    Hah to be fair Wolfenstien II was also crashing, just less often. I can probably attribute the oblivion crashes I was seeing to it as well. And lets not forget the MBAM scans.

    I'm actually digging AC:U. Just got past the "intro" sequences and I'm always amazed at their attention to detail with architecture and places of the time, along with the the research into individual people (real and otherwise). I know there was a lot of controversy in the portrayal of the revolution, but that's fine I'm not expecting wikipedia.
     
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    I've picked up 3 games in the sale: ELEX, Romancing SaGa 2, and Hollow Knight.
     
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    there's an indie game call Orwell on sale and that looks interesting.
     
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    Hollow Knight actually worth buying?
     
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    picked up borderless gaming and live wallpapers on steam....liking wallpapers but borderless window gaming doesn't make any sense it fixes nothing and adds nothing
     
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    @JRE84 I use WindowedBorderlessGaming for playing Civ IV in custom borderless window, so that it doesn't cover taskbar. Some games have an option to run borderless without any third-party software, though.
     
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    It's good to see Divinity: Original Sin 2 so high in the sales list at only 10% off.
     
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    I don't know why Nier didn't get discount :/.
     
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    Yeah, I miss this too, but I figure it's because of the return policy they have added.... years ago, when I'd constantly check the sale for every flash sale, all sales were final... now, all anybody would do is return the 50% off game when it went on flash sale for 75%.

    Definitely takes some of the excitement out, but the deals still seem to be there for the most part. I've picked up a few titles I've been watching for a while.
     
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    Because that's not how Japanese developers roll. You'll only start seeing their games go on sale when they're at least 12-18 months old.
     
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    I would buy 10-15 games right now if BTC fee isn't too high. :(