Stone Giant DX11 Benchmark

Check it out!

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Stone-Giant-Public-Demo-download-2526.html#download

Downloading now and will run it soon.

Much better than Unigen Heaven benchmarks IMO, with better real time action and more tessellation. Also looks way more awesome.

 

Tessellation works on the HD5870 Mobility. Fantastically well. When Tessellation is on high, the FPS only gets hit by 10... for a mobile card, you have to be impressed by that.

So what does Tessellation look like?

So I know a lot of you don't have a mobile card capable of Tessellation or one beefy enough to really see it happen.

I have uploaded some pictures for you to see, in their full glory. The pictures and videos I've seen online don't really give the full grasp of what is going on I don't think. So here they are.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zimctmjzjmu

 

.rar file? really? why not image hosting? imageshack or something.

 

5MB per picture file, find me a picture host that supports that please and I'll upload there.

 

Why not, say, scaling them down or saving them to something other than PNG or BMP or whatever format you used? You should have no reason to have 5MB for a 1920x1080 image. JPG is made for that kind of thing.

 

No thanks, not compressing the pictures, that wasn't the point. Don't view the pictures then.

 

Then what was the point? Are you doing some image processing on them to validate the colors of individual pixels or something? Comparing screen grabs at the same time of run-throughs to find differences between the images?

Try as I might, those are the only reason I can think of to not compress images. If you aren't doing either of those, you're just being silly.

 

i Lol'd.
Downloading the file @ 2MBs, no biggie.

 

Tessellation with the HD5870M is amazing. For anyone who spouts DX11 isn't worth it on mobile, you are completely wrong.

The Giant DX11 engine is special in that the ENTIRE scene is tessellated. When you use the wireframe, you can see the HD5870M instantly tessellated the entire SCENE. The bugs, the giant, every rock, every cranny, all the sculptures instantly gain mass and detail. There isn't even a blink of time of hesitation. Even without the wireframe, you can visually see the difference tessellation makes on the entire scene. You can see even the shadows changing because the surface texture gaining mass and details.

Because ATi IMO has a superior Tessellation method, with a dedicated tessellation core, I can have fun with this kind of stuff.

Now with games, developers have said they will not be using tessellation on entire scenes but selective. Like to make wheels rounder etc. So HD5870M for those wondering should be able to handle this.

Very exciting and very fun.

 

Well, Nvidia's Fermi seems to have made huge leaps for tessellation, so it isn't quite true to say ATI's tessellation is superior in general.

 

The HD5870 Desktop from brief benches I've seen with this Stone Giant awesome tessellation program, gets around 55-60 FPS. With lower clocks, half the memory bandwidth (almost), half the Stream Processors, my HD5870M cranks out around 25. Now take this with the GTX480... about 56, the GTX 470... About 45. That's a 10 FPS hit with just 32 cores less. From Guru3D.

On the other hand, a GTX470 user got 58 with High Tessellation. Now get this, when you turn on Depth of Field, which tests your Direct Compute, his framerate drops to 32. Like I said, the FERMI is not as good cause as soon as the Shader Cores have to perform Shader Core processes, Tessellation swamps it. When I turn on Depth of Field, about 10 FPS hit. Not nearly as bad going from 58 to 32.

Nvidia has hinted they have a 128 Core FERMI in the works and I think that will be the mobile version.
- How well do you think a 128 Core FERMI will do with Tessellation? HD5870M if had to shove tessellation through it's stream processors while doing all the other DX11 features, don't even bother. I think the only reason why HD5870 can reasonably do Tessellation is because of a separate dedicated core for it.

But this is speculation, will have to wait and see.

 

dx11 at 4fps must be nice..thank god you spent 1900 for the asus g73.

what would you do if you were not getting less than 20 fps for dx11.

should have waited till a card came out the actually could handle dx11.

 

4 FPS? Thanks for insulting me though, very nice of you. But even if I got my G73 with a 920 Extreme wouldn't cost me $1,900.

eezy gotta stop being so hostile. If you are satisfied with your 260, then great, I'm happy for you. But don't lash out at me for being happy with my HD5870.

 

the least you could do is put them in a zip file for file hosting

or, more realistically, get them up on the image hosting so you can inline the thumbnails in this thread. basic stuff. people do this all the time for screenshots in this forum. it really is the best way to share that type of content. if you seriously don't want to do it because you have some hang up about image compression, then you should seriously get over it. you can keep the originals up on the file share site, you should also inline them in the thread.

 

Run 1 is Tessellation High no Depth of Field (Direct Compute)
Run 2 is Tessellation High Depth of Field on (Direct Compute)

The ENTIRE scene here is tessellated. Below you can see that.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/stone0.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/stoneh.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/tree0.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/treeh.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/wire0.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/wireh.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/scene0.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/sceneh.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/rocks0.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae238/ziddy76/rocksh.jpg

 

The individual facilities on the ATI cards really help,

If nvidia skip the whole extra facilities then we will have the next step up from 285, i hope they do this right though.

Edit:Woaaah, that tesselation business is seriously neat.

 

lol seriously dude , stop it... this is becomming very irritating... ur GTX260M isn't awesome.. its average... it cannot match a 5870 and is thrashed to the ground.. stop insulting everyone with a 5870... this is getting on my nerves too... even though i only have a 9600M GT...

 

Yeah and Ziddy is getting on my nerves too, trashing the new Nvidia Fermi GPU´s. Well wait a little while until they have sorted out the drivers. Stop dreaming that your notebook GPU is as fast as a desktop Nvidia 470. Why not compare real in game benchmarks?

when I bought the desktop 8800GTX it took some drivers until they sorted out the performance, so just wait.

Also if you guys know how to look on the internet, there are numerous benchmarks where the GTX 480 and even GTX 470 beats the desktop 5870.

 

You have some serious problems with reading what I wrote. But that's ok, I don't mind, you can believe what you want what I wrote, not what I actually wrote. I didn't say ANY of what you just claimed I did. It's impressive, none of what you say I implied or said is true.

Nowhere did I have any delusions of thinking HD5870M is as fast as GTX470. I in fact said my FPS was 20-25 and said GTX470 got 58, somehow I don't think that means I believe HD5870M is as good as GTX470M.

Now onto the GTX480 vs HD5870M... I also posted saying the GTX480M did better than the HD5870 Desktop on these benchmarks.

And you say I am getting on your nerves? Please, makes you look like a fanboy by not even attempting to read what I wrote.

 

Nah nevermind ziddy, you see I am neither fanboy of nvidia of ati since I own both GPU´s. But so far I have not seen any gameplay of the 5870m in say Bad Company 2 with high settings and DX11 settings. How does that game run in DX11 on your notebook?

I have seen some gameplay on youtube with 5870m in different games, so just curious how Bad Company 2 runs. I am not intending to get into a flamewar, so I will just bury the hatchet.

I am as I have said earlier impressed with that 5870m notebook GPU. I was though dissappointed on the desktop 5770 but that is another story.

 

Magnus72 G73 eats up BC2 wonderfully well in DX11. Getting around 45 FPS with all settings on and high DX11. For other G73 users they prefer 60 FPS so they play with a HBAO off and sometimes shadow on medium.

 

yea ziddy is by far the rudest person in these forums.

He states things, like this.

I own a hd5870.
Everyone else has crappy computers
I own a hd5870.
All opinions are an attack on my magic hd5870.
I own a hd5870.
All topics should be about my laptops gpu.
I own a hd5870.
And everyone else can get bent .
I am ZIDDY, and my wife is named HD mobility.

also, g73jh has been around for a while now.. and uh

0 impressive ingame performance movies on youtube.

also.
http://www.reviewsor.com/component/asus-g73jh-videos-8640.html
g73jh cannot play BF:BC2 at 1920x1080 all high, and average 45fps with any sort of overclock.

their is videos online showing its performance at 1600x900 high averaging 41fps.....

 

The problem is that ziddy is right. He is also reasonable, and understands the limitations of his card, but he also understands the strengths and general performance of MANY cards, by doing research and actually understanding what he's reading.

The video you talk about is with an i5-520M CPU. BF:BC2 is well known to gain a bunch of performance with extra cores, and the video RIGHT DIRECTLY ABOVE the one you're talking about is at 1920x1080 with an i7-720QM (like ziddy's) and averages high 30's/low 40's. An overclock could easily add 5FPS.

Stop it with the personal attacks, guys. They're doubly annoying and inappropriate when you are completely wrong. This is not me asking. This is me telling.

 

I have 5870MR as well and it plays at 1920x1080 BC2 with max settings no AA (honestly, high AA on 15/17" screen at 1920x1080 resolution is probably the most pointless thing ever) on dx11 smoothly as well, 5870MR is more than capable enough to handle dx11 games. Moreover, from my speculations, DX11 will be popular very soon, simply because how easy it is to drastically improve the graphics of games withou too much work, since it just takes a normal map from a high res model and map onto a mid-res model (which all commercial AAA games are already doing), and simply specify a height constant to scale the tesselation as you want, and everything else is left to the library to do the job.

 

I think the 5870m will be better when it´s used in a Sager instead. Asus is not known for good cooling such as Sager/Clevo is, thus yields higher overclocks on the GPU.