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    Stuttering issue with 8600M GT

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by BlackYoshi, Apr 26, 2008.

  1. BlackYoshi

    BlackYoshi Notebook Consultant

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    Since updating drivers to 174.74, I cannot seem to get a consistent frame rate on either TF2 or COD4. It's much worse in TF2; no matter what the settings are, it'll jump between 40 and 80, with no intermediate. So it makes movement and aiming incredibly choppy. COD4 will do the same thing. Possible heat issue or what?

    I have a Asus G1S-A1, stock, with vista 32bit.
     
  2. The Forerunner

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    No you just need to enable v-sync in video options. That should fix the tearing and stuttering.
     
  3. BlackYoshi

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    Even if I never had that option enabled before and it worked fine?
     
  4. The Forerunner

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    Updating the drivers probably gave you a nice boost in fps. Especially if you were using stock drivers and such. Thus causing your fps to jump over 60, or jump over 60 more often. This causes tearing since your gpu has processed more frames than your monitor with 60 hz refresh rate can display. Enabling v-sync caps your fps so they don't jump over 60. Though v-sync will reduce your framerate even further but it won't matter since you can run TF2 fine.
     
  5. BlackYoshi

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    Here's the thing; the framerate hasn't gotten better; with these drivers it is chugging at the same settings I had on a previous older driver. It was staying good at 60 for a bit and then it started to drop to 30 and then in intensive moments it would hit the teens. An 8600M GT DDR3 should do better than that at 1280x800 with medium textures, correct?
     
  6. ARom

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    Did you try lowing the settings way down and seeing if it's still acting up?
     
  7. X2P

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    Switch to 174.93 the 174.74 did the same thing to me. It was terrible but to every one my games...
     
  8. BlackYoshi

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    The 174.93 has not improved anything. I'm just about to give up and rollback to my 163.67 tweakforce drivers.
     
  9. Jlbrightbill

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    How much system RAM do you have? I noticed a lot of stuttering in 3DMark06 with 2 GB of RAM but when I switched to 4 GB all the stuttering went away. Of course this isn't necessarily the problem with everybody, but just my observation.
     
  10. andygb40

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    I can't use any of the 174 series drivers past 174.16 due to constant stuttering, no matter what I do it happens after about 15-20 seconds of game play and will not go until I reboot, where the stuttering comes back again after 15-20secs.
     
  11. BlackYoshi

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    It seems everyone who has issues with the 174 series has an 8600M GT :(

    I have 2 GB because I have 32 bit Vista; 2 GB with nothing else running should easily run medium settings TF2 and COD4; it's not like im trying to run max settings Crysis.
     
  12. Jlbrightbill

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    I realize it should but I'm just saying I had stuttering in 3dMark06 on 174.16 with 2 GB RAM, as soon as I went 4 GB, while my framerates didn't really improve drastically, the stuttering went away. I'm on 32 bit XP so while you don't get the full 4 GB, 3.5 GB is not bad.
     
  13. Pablomancan

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    Actually, the 174.74 have been the best drivers for my c90s 8600m GT. They've really stopped all of the stuttering problems I've ever had.
     
  14. X2P

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    Appears like it benifts some (usually vista) well screws others over :( I use 174.93 as best drivers while my friend on his MPB uses 169.09 since they run best for him

    The best way is to just keep trying till you hit one.
     
  15. andygb40

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    I wish more people would use common sense and keep trying different drivers until they get one that suits them and their hardware. :D
     
  16. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    It depends on the game, from personal experience 174.74 makes Gears of War totally unplayable, shutters, hangs, and crashes. While 169.04 fixed all the problems mentioned above. Besides Gears of War I have noticed shuttering in TF2 with 174.74 as well....
    btw, I just went through Half of GOW, and the game is great! I just might look forward to GoW 2 for PC afterall, if the port is as good as this one. (not saying the port is great but it does run fairly decent if you are lucky and does not experience the dreaded start up crashes).
    That's how V-Sync works, it will always lock the FPS to 60 if your machine can push out more than 60 FPS, otherwise it will drop to the next level which is 30 FPS and locks it there to prevent tearing, etc.
     
  17. lanwarrior

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    Hmm, sounds like a problem I have that I posted here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=230723.

    To save you the grief of reading my long thread:

    I have a Dell XPS M1530 with 8600M GT. I run Windows XP and have 4GB RAM (only 3.5 GB recognises by WinDoze).

    The problem I have is that in mid-game, suddenly the game either stutter, flicker, sounds cut-off and then move very slowly (like 10 fps) OR the game just froze.

    I tried running this with Steam Games, mostly Half Life 2 and Team Fortress 2, BF2 and BF2142.

    I ran all games with AntiVirus and Spy Sweeper disabled. I use Avast! for AV.

    I tried it with Dell own driver, and then LaptopVideo 169.09 and problem still persist.
     
  18. BlackYoshi

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    People seem to get way more performance out of their 8600M GT than I am; like High everything at 1400x900 with 8x AA in TF2. I'm starting to think there is something wrong with my card...
     
  19. richierich

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    What processor do you have? How much ram?
     
  20. geoffn09

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    i have the 9500m gs, basically the same card.. what are you getting with 3dmark06? i can run everything on source games on high, except the AA kills my framerate so i leave it off.
    im getting 4058 on 3dmark06 with the 169.28 drivers from laptopvideo2go
     
  21. BlackYoshi

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    2.2 Ghz Santa Rosa, can't remember the number off the top of my head. 2 GB of RAM. I get about that much on 3DMark06. I don't know but it seems the card is doing better after I posted it.
     
  22. Malacain

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    I have a G1S with the 8600GT DDR3. I had very annoying stuttering issues.

    Here is how to fix it - if you have the same problem I did...

    Put the machine in sleep/hibernate mode after a fresh reboot.

    'Wake' it up.

    Play.
     
  23. lanwarrior

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    It seems that NVIDIA have really bad drivers for the 8600M series. I am sure my 860M GT is powerful enough to play Team Fortress (as an example) at MEDIUM settings and yet the stutter happens ONCE IN A WHILE.
     
  24. lanwarrior

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    Quick update: when run on an ATI X1400, Team fortress 2 run FLAWLESS at LOW-MEDIUM settings. No stuttering, nada.

    However, with the same settings for the 8600MGT, stutter every 5-15 minutes, regardless if there are lots of players or not on the screen.

    Both machine have 4GB of RAM, Windows XP SP2, with background application disabled.

    So the issue is 8600M GT, either driver or hardware I don't know..
     
  25. dmacfour

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    CS:S stutters for about 1-2 seconds every 5 minutes or so under Vista, but not in XP for me. It's very disruptive to my gameplay.
     
  26. ORLY

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    8600M GT here, no probs with CoD4 on med/high. I read somewhere that stutter may be fixed by enabling the "Dual Video Cards" option in CoD4 even if you only have one. Give that a shot maybe.
     
  27. r34p3rex

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    are you on power saver? my 8600m gt @ 715/900 can do TF2 on all highest settings (minus AA/ASA) at 1680x1050 at like 100-150fps

    i'm scoring about 5900 on 3dm06

    if i remember correctly, i was able to play TF2 on all high settings at 60fps starting at like 600/800
     
  28. lanwarrior

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    Well, I am using stock with no OC and the issue is that it CAN run at 60 fps but once in a while it stutter, even at lowest settings. it seems that there are some memory leaks or whatever it is that cause the stutter at random time.

    Even when there is no other player, just myself, the graphics stutter at random time.

    I tried different driver (169.09, 174, etc.) and the stock and still the problem persist. I imaged my HDD for backup, reinstall BRAND NEW Windows XP with NO AV, Spy Sweeper, etc. but with Windows Update (SP2) and the problem still appear...
     
  29. lozanogo

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    If the rate of stuttering is the same regardless of the settings, then it should not be a problem with the graphic card. Could it be some conflict with the sounds/music?
     
  30. lanwarrior

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    I heard it could be a bad card or bad driver, not sure at this point. I posted another thread asking about this issue but seems this thread hit the nails.

    conflicts with sounds, hmmm, I don't think so. It uses stock Audio driver.

    I am in the office now, I'll email you my graphics settings to compare with yours.
     
  31. r34p3rex

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    it might be some program eating up random CPU cycles or like you said, a problem with the video card. but for now, i'd put the last possibility aside because the likelihood of that is reallly low

    so let me get this straight, you've formatted and installed a fresh copy of xp and it still stutters? are you doing anything specific in game when it stutters? try walking around by yourself on an empty server for a while and see if it works normally
     
  32. Tusin

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    Hey r34 what drivers you using? That is a crazy OC!

    I am actualy able to OC that high on my M1530 in 3dmark06, but when I try to run TF I get a hard reboot. But heat is not what is causing it. Kind of crazy.