Supreme Command 2 vs Empire Total War

Everyone, I know each of these games has a good, deep, campaign mode. I would like to know which has more dynamic single player content like skirmish mode or conquest mode or something. Something you can play offline that is completely different each time you play?

Why offline? Because I need to be able to save and be away from the computer for a while. Need some opinions here everyone!

Thanks for your time,

StevenX

 

'Supreme Commander 2' and 'good, deep, campaign mode' cannot be used in the same sentence, except to say what I have just said.

That is all.

 

the total war series of course, i finished supreme commander 2 in like 2-3hrs.

 

Thanks.. let me try asking it this way. I know Supreme com 2 has skirmish mode to help with replay value. Does empire total war have the same type of dynamic (non-campaign) related game play?

Thanks!

 

Firstly, SupCom2 skirmish mode will probably bore you out in 1hr if you play singleplayer. For totalwar, well, it's a bit different, because the campaign is already sort of like skirmish mode, and there's a mode where you just control the combat rather than city building etc.

 

Total War games are the epitome of replayable games. The Empire Total War one has a minimum of three campaign modes (Imperial and multiple types of the Grand Campaign - I've only played long and short, not world domination) as well as a skirmish mode and a mode for historical battles.

If you finish the grand campaign with one country, then you go back and do it from another country/perspective.

Just don't anger Russia.

 

SupCom 2 is very boring if you don't play online, if you think the scale of empire is too big, check out Napoleon total war.

 

I appreciate everyone's responses. I am just trying to understand the AI in supreme com2. If you play in skirmish (offline), does the AI build the same stuff and attack the same way over and over again? Does it try to hold the same points? It sounds like to me that Empire is the end all be-all of 1700 RTS. I will probably pick it up soon. I am still on the fence about Supreme Com2. I know it has a lot of bad reviews but from the aspect of a RTS newbie, I wouldn't notice all the differences from the old version of the game.

Best Wishes,

StevenX

 

Yes, the AI is more or less the same, there are different form of AI to choose though ie turtle, offense, balance, etc, but that's all there is to it.

A problem with the comparison though, is that totalwar is not really a pure blood RTS, it's more of a combination of turn based strategy and RTS, it's a type of genre of it's own.

 

Pick E:TW up. The majority of the initial bugs and AI issues have been rectified via several updates. Like it's predecessor, wait until SC2 hits the bargain bin (which should be fairly soon) before considering it. That is my opinion anyway.

But judging by your comments it appears you're already trying to convince yourself to pick SC2 up and simply looking for an answer you want to hear/see. So do what you want to do. Games are fun!

 

I'd recommend doing what I did when I played the demo of Sup Com 2. Go on Steam and buy the combo pack of TA, Sup Com 1, and FA. Unless you already have them of course. But yeah, I personally think Sup Com 1 is a better game than Sup Com 2.

 

SC2 is boring in singleplayer as well, the only reason starcraft and warcraft series are popular is because of multiplayer and custom maps. Actually, almost all RTS games gets boring when playing on singleplayer after the initial campaign, totalwar series is only different because it's not really a RTS.

 

Thanks everyone! Here is what I did.. Brick and Mortar Copy of Both Empire Total War and Supreme Com 1. I appreciate all the opinions and sharing of experiences. BB had ETW for 30 bones and HPB has SC1 for 6.99, new not used. I know that ETW will play on my m11x, I wonder how SC1 will do? The SC2 demo played fine on all high but everyone says that SC1 is much more hardware intensive.

Best Wishes!

StevenX

 

That was a good plan. I believe the original SC took advantage of multicore, particularly quads, processors as well. Enjoy your games!

 

Too funny.. I just went back to BB and also picked up Sins Of A Solar Empire. So i think my RTS itch should now be scratched. This game got stellar reviews.. I hope it plays well on the m11x. Thanks Again, StevenX

 

That, sir, is one of the best RTS games to be released in a long while. It's one of my favorites. Is it the Trinity pack which includes the expansions, Entrenchment & Diplomacy? If not, make sure you get those as well.

 

It says it's the game of the year edition... do you think that is the right version? I need to check if it has an EXE that allows for no CD/DVD play in drive as I see it is not a STEAM app. I can't stand having to use a DVD rom with the m11x. Thanks! StevenX

 

Don't worry. You can play SoaSE without discs in the drive. It's an Impulse/Stardock app which is (imho) much better than Steam.

I don't think the GotY edition includes the expansions. Only a soundtrack CD and techtree poster I believe. However, you can easily get the expansions for around $10 each via Impulse.

 

Stardock games never had any DRM, even their CD key is not needed for playing the game, but for redownloading the game from their website in case you lost the cd or something.

 

I have been playing forged alliance on my m11x which is more demanding than SC1. As long as you stick to medium maps (4 player maps like isis etc) and below you will be fine. Dont expect to be playing an 8 player setons without lag though