TF2 Players? What type of performance are you getting? (With machine specs). I may upgrade.

I have become addicted to TF2 (I used the play the heck out of TFC back in the day). And I am getting pretty bad performance on my sytem.
M1530, T7250, 8600M GT GDDR3, 320HD, 4GB of ram, playing @ 1280x800.

I have done quite a bit of research, and have found that since a patch back in november? Alot of players have been getting very lack-luster performance. Most have come to the conclusion that this game is very CPU intensive. I think they are right. It does not matter what res I play at, or what my settings are. My FPS stays the same. Even with a OC of 650/850 my FPS really never changes. I have used the command mat_queue_mode 2 , which helps, but man does it make me mad when the game crashes.

So I am curious, on who else plays (if you want to add me as a friend user is Zanaflex), and what type of performance you get, and what are your specs?

Also, I am tossing around the idea of upgrading my CPU to the T8300. I would be a little irratated if I did the upgrade and it did not do much for me. So if anyone uses that CPU, please let me know

Thank you.

 

i only have a t7200. i play at 70+fps maxed on 1920x1200. it could be the 8600gt. i don't know how cpu intensive the game is but my two 7950gtx run the game very well. however, i don't play it often, meaning, since orange box came out i've played it maybe 10 hours total.

 

I'm getting between 20fps to 80fps depending on the map and how much action is going on. This at 1440x900 with medium/high details, hdr on, af 8x, aa 0

 

Consistent 40-70 FPS. 1680x1050, max settings, HDR on full, 16x AF/16xQ CSAA. Specs in sig. This is on my desktop, where there is obviously very, very little chance of my CPU being the bottleneck. It should be noted that the game only seems to be able to utilize two cores, as I hover between 40-48% CPU usage while playing.

My ThinkPad? 1440x900, medium/high settings, 4x AF/0x AA. 30-50 FPS.

 

Levenly try it now (if you want of course lol). According to many, it used to play awesome on older systems (like most source games). But they did a patch and all of a sudden the game has become very CPU intensive.

I get anywhere from 20-120+. It rock solid till firefights. And like I said before (why does that always sound so rude? lol), it does not matter what I change my settings or even my overclock to, FPS stays the same.

Eh oh well. I guess I will just make a $200.00 experiment.

 

Actually TF2 does not even use 2 of your cores. It uses one. Unless you use the mat_queue_mode 2 (which gives me a huge FPS boosts), but then it just likes to crash and crash some more.

Arggg, I guess I will just build a desktop too. Then I can try to play it on my 24" Dell monitor ahhhhhhhhh!

 

try to oc your cpu and see if that helps ?

 

As far as I know you cannot OC the M1530's CPU.

 

hmmz you sure ? try setfsb and i think rmclock can do it to

 

I play on 1680x1050 all settings high except textures on medium and get 30+ fps always. No command tweaks. Specs in sig.

 

Yeah that is why I am leaning towards a better cpu. Our systems are the same, but your CPU is "faster" along with more cache 4mb on that correct?

 

Correct. The T7500 is clocked at 2.2 GHz and has 4 MB cache.

 

Hmmm, I can get one of those local, but I might as well go Penryn if I am spending that much.

Oh what driver you using (might as well try that, I am using 174.74 currently).

 

i find the 174.31 of dells own website most stable at oc ...

 

Very good, will try those tonight.

Thank you!

 

see specs below..

i play on high settings. not maxed out but higher than medium.
I play on 1280x1024 resolution and the game runs great (always above 25 fps)

 

Play on max+16xAF,no AA with specs in sig.
Minimum I've seen my whole time playing was 14 FPS(Proably due to lag spike)
Maximum I've seen was 108FPS.
Average is usually about 55FPS.
Note: Slight overclock to 540/1080/800

 

Specs in sig.

I run it at 1680x1050, everything on high (No AA/AF) except shaders (Or shadows, can't remember which) on low, and I get 50-70 FPS consistently with a rare heavy firefight drop into the low 40's. Changing the shaders (Or shadows, again, I have a bad memory. ) to Low gave me a 7-15 FPS boost.

And for those giving your TF2 settings, I hope you realize how worthless they are unless you include what resolution you're running it at.

 

Intel Core Duo T2400 1.83ghz
2gb DDR2 @ 667mhz
ATI Mobility X1600 256mb (No OC)

All settings on high at 1280 x 800 except shadows, AA and AF.

30+fps most of the time, can occasionally dip to lower 20's when lots of action on screen, still playable.

 

T8300, 8600M GT GDDR3 (475/700)
1280x800, all settings high, 4xAA & 4xAF.

I get about 30 - 70 fps, depending on how much action is going on. I swear I used to get better fps in Windows XP though, with my fps never dipping below 40.

 

Just wanted to add that your GPU is faster though.

 

t7250, 2GB ram, Vista ultimate, 8600gt 512MB DDR2, 1680x1050, HDR off, AA off, textures at max. well over 30fps at all times (even in huge battles). MSI gx700px.

if I turn on both cores on it runs much faster, but sometimes it just freezes.

Ivan

 

Yeah I get good FPS when I use mat_queue_mode 2 (turning on both cores). But it just crashes way to much.

I know it is a CPU issue. I.E. It does not matter what res (even @ 640x480) I get the same FPS on a timedemo. But the bit one, is even if I OC my GPU to 600/900 there is no difference in FPS. And yes I know the OC works, ever other game show it.

 

I have not done any tweaking to TF2 and it runs fine on my system.

 

And your system would be?

 

TF2 runs great on my XPS M1530 (see sig). But maybe you need better nvidia drivers?

 

..or maybe your T-8300?

 

That is really weird. TF2 plays well on most systems, even some that are pretty dated. I use Rivatuner to see my FPS while playing and never get below 35 FPS.

Now I dont know by heart what my settings are (Been a long time since I tweaked that game to work well for me), but I run nearly everything on high, with a resolution like 1440×900 (something similar to that).

My specs are in my sig. Really , try sorting the game-options and your drivers before you go and upgrade. You should be able to run the game fine. Also, the CPU is only very rarely the bottleneck (especially on newer systems such as yours).

 

Nope I verified last night that the CPU is the bottleneck. Well, I verified verified lol.

OCing the gpu gives me no increase in fps, changing resolution gives me very very little change in fps, running @ 16x AA and AF gives me a 1fps drop compared to no AA/AF.

Mat_queue_mode 2 gives me a very good increase but is to unstable. So what I tried was this. Set affinity to the second core, and set the priority to real time. And guess what? A 10 fps average fps boost.

Alot of people here have similar systems to mine, but with different CPU's. The T7250 must be the ugly step-sister of everything else lol. So this week (Monday), I am going to purchase either a T8300 or T9300 have not decided yet. I do alot of video/audio encoding and rendering, so the CPU upgrade will come with more purpose then just playing TF2 lol.

 

Well that might explain why it was acting so bipolar on my Acer Aspire 6920G - I may have a 9500M GS, but I also have a T5550 running at 1.83 GHz. Gleep.

Until my system got sent back, I was running at 720x480 with high/very high across the board and 4x AA/Aniso. Permanent 60 fps.
When I get it back and diagnose my issues with audiodg.exe, then I'll probably crank the res and drop a few options, see what happens.

 

Yeah, how long ago did you play it last? Because it has only gotten worse lol.

 

Worse? How so? I don't have any problems with TF2.

 

After every recent update. Here is a link if anyone cares to read.
People with 8800GT's/GTX's some with SLi getting very poor FPS.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=627025

And there are many more, this is the just "main" one.

 

Ummm...Thursday?
I've seen the forum topic on Steam's forums - people are PISSED at Valve for continually slowing the game down.

 

I'm getting an average of about 50-60 FPS with everything on high and 8x AA

 

So the game crashes more when using two cores rather than 1? Sounds like a heat/stability crash.

Are you using a laptop cooling pad? if not i really suggest it because its really good for keeping the cpu stable under higher workloads. Because all in all I find t7250 and t7500 to heat up quite a big.

You can also try underclocking your cpu a little bit using rightmark and running it in mat_queue_mode 2, might get better performance with increased stability.

 

1280x800, AA x2, all high, full HDR- 40+ FPS.

 

No it's not a heat issue. Normally it could/would be. But my CPU temps never go over 62C (and that is @ full load for 6 hours). It's that TF2 is not setup correctly for dual core. Just about everyone gets crashing with mat_queue_mode 2 enabled.

It's a Valve needs to change it's system requirements issue But its all good. Just giving me a excuse to tell the wife I need buy a new CPU. Now it's between the T8300 or T9300

 

What's the price difference at full retail?

 

Meh seen the t8300 in action and tested, unless there's something i dont know about, there's no significant performance gain over a T7500. If I were you I'd save up and get the T9300 instead if the difference in price is reasonable.

 

I think it is problem with your game/computer not your processor. I have a t2400 which is much weaker than the 7250 (same 2 mb,1.83ghz,667 fsb, core1), playing with a 960x600 resolution(to see what kind of fps I get reducing the load on my 7600) I get always more than 40fps, I'm using the 175.70 drivers, and the game was updated this weekend.

Unless all you want is reason to upgrade your processor and the best you got was this, I suggest you to keep your processor and do some kind of system cleanup/drivers update. Or do some kind of check in your background tasks.

 

I posted my specs in my sig, anyways it's probably just driver or configuration problems that you guys with low performance have, since most of you have systems that are much newer/powerful than mine.

 

Anyone played the game on a 2600? I've got my eye on these two Asus & Gateway laptops for TF2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834101154
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220305

 

Yeah, from what I gather the T7500 and T8300 are pretty close (although the T8300 runs cooler). But the T7500>T7250 by a decent chunk. I don't know if it is the 2mb of cache or what holding back the T7250.

 

So everyone on the Steam Forums that have 8800GT and GTX's but not the top of the line Core2Duo's that see poor FPS have config issues? Oh and this is on a clean install of XP SP3, 174.31 drivers.

I have more reasons for the CPU upgrade then just this. But this is my excuse for the NOW

 

Darn right it's probably a driver issue - remind me to remove ALL of the Acer bloatware when I get my system back this time.

 

I did not read over the all the posts in this thread, but by reading theTF2 Steam User Forum, and personal Experience: the CPU fps "bug" or "glitch", is not noticible when playing in a server with less than (around) 14 players. I often experience the cpu problem in the 32 players servers, and as people left the game my FPS improves corrispondingly.

 

Then it can be some kind of extra cpu use for geforce 8 cards, since me an the other guy with a t2400 are not running geforce 8 cards.

 

That VERY VERY well could be. Did not even think about that And it could be the problem, that I only play on 32man servers. I should have said that.