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    TSMC move 7nm to volume production in 1Q18

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Mr Najsman, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. Mr Najsman

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    http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160906PD210.html

     
    Mr Najsman, Sep 9, 2016
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    What will become of 10nm, Volta / Vega in 2017?

    Will everyone wait for 7nm in 2018?

    That's been the talk for the last couple of weeks... why push it and rapidly do 10nm when 7nm is so close?

    Pascal just released with an effective 2x performance boost. Shouldn't that be enough to carry us through till 2018?

    Time for the 1080ti to release :)
     
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    According to the article they expect revenues from 10 nm in the first quarter of 2017.

    Considering how long we were on 28 nm this is indeed very fast.
     
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    Who is they? Nvidia, AMD, both?
     
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    As I read it, TSMC:

     
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    So, we don't know for who and for what those 10nm parts are destined.

    It could be awesome phone parts, rather than GPU's.
     
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    10nm might be just like 20nm, which was only used by few ARM SoCs. It is likely that GPUs will stay at 16nm remainder of 2017 and may jump to 7nm by 2018, if everything goes as planned. Just hope 16nm doesn't become another 28nm.
     
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    ^^ I'm with you both and that's what I said in the Volta thread - 10nm would be hogged by phone chips and that's if the process is mature enough. So no 10nm GPUs in 2017, not consumer ones, that much is certain.
     
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    You are on the right track. There will be 16nm and possibly 10nm but probably 7nm for 2018.

    My belief is that they will re-brand some of the lower end GPU's on 16nm and introduce 10nm/7nm Volta on the flagship 11-series.
     
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    Volta NEEDS to be out in 2017 for Tesla. It's contacted. If Volta isn't on 10nm or 7nm by the time the Teslas roll out, there's no way in hell consumer lines are going to see them. It'd need a redesign of the architecture.

    Navi, being 2018 slated, might very well see 7nm though.
     
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    There's no way they haven't allocated the appropriate resources for the development of Volta by now. NVIDIA works on these architectures years in advance.

    I would be willing to bet a lot that we'll see Volta sooner than later, even in the consumer market.
     
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    It's not going to show up 1 year after launch of the previous gen, even if the previous gen is a stopgap (which it is).
     
    D2 Ultima, Sep 10, 2016
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