The 9 series graphics cards maybe not so great?

A lot of people ask which graphics card is better and faster, etc. I contacted HP and their 9600m GT's only have GDDR2. As you can see from the chart on notebook check a 9500m with GDDR2 gets outperformed by the GPU that's a generation behind because it has GDDR3. So I imagine the 9600m GT from HP would get exactly the same performance as the 8600m GT on the Dell, since the 9500m series is getting outperformed by it. Also the Dell in this benchmark has the worst processor on the chart.

 

The 9 series there is a GS slower core speed than the GT's Id say the 9600M GT is comparable to a 8800GT really for performance wise, which is pretty darned good. Yeah you'd think it would be faster but with the GDDR2 its not as fantastic but still a very nice card for a laptop.

 

the idea from the 9 series is to bring higher performance chips on more laptops, as you can see, witht he 9 series line-up, most of the people are having a 9500GS minimum in thier notebooks instead of the last line-up that had a 8400GS/GT

 

the 9600m gt IS NOT comparable to a 8800gt...that is absurd
that being said, the 9600m gt ddr2 would certainly outperform the 8600m gt ddr3

 

Agreed.
The 9600m GT is roughly the equivalent of an 8700m GT provided the 9600m GT has DDR3.

The 9700m GT is roughly the equivalent of a highly overclocked 8700m GT.

Likely, but not proven yet.

 

i want to see how the newer high end ATI mobility cards are going to perform.

 

Same , unfortunately the HD3870 still has a lot of open bugs and has been delayed. So im afraid its going to be until at least early September until we see them.

Speculation is that it will be between the 9800GTS (faster 8800GTS) and 9800GT (faster 8800GTX), probably closer to the 9800GTS though.

 

YOu can't make this assumption without doing some reasearch ttime20. If you look around the forum it has been stated hundreds of times, and various benchmarks show that the 9600gt is equivalent to an 8700gt. If you look at nvidia lines in the past this is usually how it goes. 8400gs=7600 8600=7800 9500=8600 it makes perfect sense.

 

I also wanna see some benchmarks. Still the 9500M GS is slower than the 8600M GT DDR3. So it is possible that the 9600M GT DDR2 will perform even if not a little better than the 8600M GT DDR3. You can also clock the 8600M GT higher than the standard 9500M GS.

 

All of those benchmarks are for a 9600m GT with GDDR3 because the 8700m GT has GDDR3 as well. They don't have any benchmarks for the GDDR2 version from what I see. I did my research, maybe you should do yours.

 

The 9600M GS DDR2 is as good as the GDDR3 8600M GT. That pretty much says that the 9600M GT DDR2 is better

 

TTime, it's sad. Everytime I have seen you post lately, it's been about how "the 8600m GT is faster than 9X00" card. It seems like you are extremely insecure about your 8600m. Benchmarks mean very little.

Didn't you start another thread about practically the same thing?

 

would you mind posting your reasearch that i'm sure you have showing the ddr2 9600gt benchmarks and 8700gt benchmarks side by side, or wait, are you just completely speculating? How do you know there will be a substantial difference between a ddr2 and a ddr3 9600gt.

 

After searching on google a little bit it says the GDDR3 version would be slightly better than the 8700m GT and the GDDR2 version would be slightly worse than the 8700m GT. That would make it either the same or slightly better than the 8600m GT w/ GDDR3. There's no point in arguing about this. I'm just disappointed that the 9600m GT doesn't have 256-bit like the desktop version does. If it did, now that would be a nice card.

 

The 9600M/9700M GT are based on the 9500GT and the 9700M GTS/9800M GTS/9800M GT are based on the 9600GT so that's why.

 

Man, nvidia would make things a lot easier if a damn 9600 GT was a 9600 GT and a 9800 GT was a 9800 GT. I understand they have to downsize things for a laptop but I'm sure they don't have to charge the ridiculous prices that they do for laptop graphics.

 

Nvidia doesn't make any sense right now. The 8800GTX is better than the 9800GTX.....

 

The 9500M-GS = 8600M-GT, there's no difference; it is a rebrand like several cards in the 9-series lineup.

I bought an HP dv5t with a 9600M-GT 512MB DDR2 . . . it will arrive in a week or so and I'll post preliminary benchmarks.

 

there is a difference between the 9500gs and the 8600gt...the 8600 can come with gddr3 whereas the 9500 is ONLY ddr2, only the ddr2 versions are identical

 

Chaz is talking about the core. You are talking about memory.

 

No. The 8800m GTX is about equivalent to a 9800m GT with the 9800m GT having a maybe 1 fps advantage. This has been confirmed by benchmarks from the powernotebooks.com and xoticpc.com guys.

 

Please do, because it seems impossible to find an actual gaming or 3dmark benchmark for the dv5t.

 

some info seems misleading right now about the 9800gt.. since some user Benchmarks sounded to be Low, and with low, i mean falling behind by 1k points.

 

Did I say 8800 M GTX and 9800 M GTX? No . I'm talking about the desktop cards

 

Haha typo?

 

I found one;

http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=211968,00.asp

 

I'm really sick of this renaming BS, That's why i didn't even bother looking for a 9 series card.

 

9600M GT 512MB GDDR3 FTW!

How does ^ compare to 8800M GTX or 9800M GTS?

 

The 9600M GT is equivalent of 8700M GT. And the 8800M GTX / 9800M GT would be 2-2.5 times more powerful.

 

Now I wish I had £1500 to burn!

 

I'm sorry, that is not right.

When your laptop gets like 11k in 3Dmark06.

Let me know.

 

They seem like good cards to me.

From what I have seen they have evolved one card level all while using less power and creating less heat.

9600GS = 8600GT kind of thing.

Nothing to complain about this was a good cycle of cards.

As for the 8800gt. That would probably be about where the 9700GT stands. Again one card up.

 

128-bit interface = bad
256-bit interface = good