I've noticed a fair few people as of late asking about the 7400. So here you have, some screenshots of my games running on a Go7400 128mb Dedicated + 128mb Turbocache, at stock speeds. Paired with 1.66Ghz Core duo and 1gb ram. All these screenshots are taken of game running at about 50fps...hope helps some people out when deciding what particular laptop to opt for.
1.66Ghz Core Duo (Not Core 2 Duo)
1Gb DDR2 Ram (731Mb free after Turbocache)
256mb Go7400
Native Res: 1280x800
Quake IV
Ran well at native res, medium-ish options.
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Counter Strike: Source
Running on native res on a 15" monitor, but high fps shows could probably be played well at native laptop of 1280x800
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Dark Messiah
This ran between 22-40fps, but I had shadows on full, which kills my 7400. Turning shadows to low gave about an average 12fps increase to around 32-50fps, and looked almost as good.
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Doom 3
Running at 1024x768, all options on full apart from AA. Ran reasonably well, from 30-60fps. I lowered the settings as seen in the third screenshot to 1024x768, everything off. It ran at an almost constant 60fps and still look reasonably good actually, a well scalable game.
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Low settings, as outlined above:
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Red Orchestra
Ran at native res, medium-ish options
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Half Life 2
1024x768 (On 15" Monitor)
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Day of Defeat: Source
Native res, high-ish options, smooth as butter and high FPS
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Call of Duty 2
Dx9 mode basically unplayable, so had to use Dx7. Ran well, 1024x768 res, medium-high options, fps varied from 25-50 but remained smooth.
Dx7 Mode
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Bioshock
Ran quite poorly but I have to try the optimized drivers. 640x480, low options, to acheive playable 20-45fps framerates. Game is definitely playable and looks OK even at these settings when running. Brilliant game, I might add...
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Halo 2
Running on WinXP, NOT Vista! So I do not know what comparisons could be drawn between the two.
First attempt - a modest 1024x768, medium detail, no AA. Game runs like crap, and also looks like crap. Its clear straight off this is a shoddy, useless port.
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So I try and lower the settings down to 800x600, low detail, and gain only about 4 or 5 fps. This is truly a dreadful port - I know the 7400 is low end but I cannot even maintain 25fps steady on the lowest res and lowest detail on a game that looks terrible. Rainbow Six Vegas runs better then this does and looks 4x as good! The game is barely playable, and I hate to imagine online play.
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Moral: Do not buy this game if you have a budget card, like the 7200, 7300, 7400, X1300 etc. Even on lowest settings it's a pain, but even running on high settings the game looks poor anyway.
GTA: San Andreas
Running at 1024x768, high view distance, medium graphics options. I drove some cars, beat some people up, did some crazy stunts - the game did not drop below 25fps and remained smooth, varying from 30-60 when just walking around. Putting the settings at high still works, at a decent fps, but when driving around and crashing, it dips into about 20fps - so I wasn't prepared to accept that as playable.
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Rainbow Six: Vegas
Lowest settings, lowest res. Surprisingly, the game still looks quite good in action, but I was only getting between 18-30fps even at these settings. Still playable, but just barely, and hardly desirable - forget online play. Now I know those people who said it worked on X200 were definitely lying through their teeth...
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Patriots
Native res, max options.
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Chaser
Native Res, maxed out
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SWAT 4
1024x768, medium-ish options, looks good.
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Line of Sight: Vietnam
Native res, maxed out.
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Unreal Tournament 2004
Native Res, maxed out, very high FPS
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Hitman: Blood Money
Outside ran a bit on the sketchy side, but still playable, at 27-40fps, but inside was great, ranging from 40-65+ fps. I know these are fairly static shots, but when killing people inside, in rooms, etc, it was smooth as butter. Settings are 800x600, medium detail, 2x AA 2x AF, medium shadows. Didn't bother trying higher, as while probably would have still been playable indoors, would have been unacceptable outdoors.
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Battlefield Vietnam
Native Res, Maxed out.
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Battlefield 2
1024x768 Res, 100% view distance, character/terrain textures on medium, shadows on low, dynamic lighting on low. Need more RAM before trying anything higher.
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FEAR Combat
800x600, medium-ish settings, this one really killed my 7400, especially with any class of shadows enabled (Soft shadows I did not even attempt obviously)
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Company of Heroes
1024x768 res, medium-ish options. The game runs well on these settings when I play intensive 4 man LAN games which can get choppy if I try anything higher.
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Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War
Native Res, maxed out.
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Hey thats pretty nice. I think a lot of people are concerned that the Go7400 will be to weak to play any decent games so this really helps. Just out of curiosity, have you tried playing Oblivion on the Go7400?
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lappy486portable Notebook Evangelist
Yeah I was wondering how that would play
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Thanks for taking the time to post all those screenshots HavoK, it should clear up some things, or at least give people an idea of what sort of performance to expect.
I played Oblivion on an HP dv8000t; it had a 128MB+128MB Go7400, Core Duo T2600 2.16GHz, and 1GB 533MHz RAM; it ran at 800x600 with medium-ish detail pretty good. If you go back through the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion thread, I posted results sometime around June 15-30th, 2006, including my complete settings. -
These are some screens of Oblivion and BF2142 taken using my 7400.
Oblivion:
BF2142:
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Sweet, What kind of frame rates were you getting?
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metalneverdies Notebook Evangelist
thats what the yellow number in the top left was
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In BF2142 I average mid to high 30's. Lowest ive seen is spike was 24, and thats during pod bursts and explosions so gameplay is very smooth. Oblivion is another story. I usually get low to mid 20's outside, and low-mid 30's inside. Its definitly playable though. It does spike into the teens in spots as you can see in the picture with my charcter and horse, but thats a very very demanding spot in the game, and the frames there dont reflect my averages thorughout the vasy majority of the game.
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What drivers you use Havok?
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Older ones, think 80.40 or something like that, give me the best performance so far.
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added - Quake IV. Runs surprisingly well - 50-60fps in most of the game I've played so far at reasonable settings.
Also added day of defeat. runs very, very well at high settings (about 60-100fps), without AF or HDR -
This could be useful for us with a x1400 to. they're almost the same card.
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Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer
Hey you have the Oblivion expansion pack! Incredible!
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Good thread.
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wow that is quite impressive indeed!! Those 2142 are equivalent to my gameplay on my desktop with my x800. For some reason bf2 I can get like 60+ but 2142 just does not like my computer at all.
In 2142, what video options are you running it at, it looks great! -
You play A LOT of games!
Can you run old shooting games with max detail? -
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Added - Dark Messiah. It runs rather well, about 22-40fps on 1024x768, everything on high but without AF. Turning off shadows, which in particular kills my 7400 performance wise in most modern games, gives a very good increase of about 12fps on averge to about 35-50fps.
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mobius1aic Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer
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Added Call of Duty 2, running well at about 25-50fps on 1024x768, Dx7 mode, 2x AF enabled, other options enabled.
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metalneverdies Notebook Evangelist
this thread is awsome. answers all my questions about the 7400 and the x1400
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So at how many frame rates do the games become choppy?
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Out of the other games, none of them ran below 26fps at any time, and were smooth during gameplay. Most of them are at such settings as to run at about 50fps, actually, such as Battlefield 2 and Quake IV. The older titles run at max settings at a decent fps so with those, there was no need for any optimization.
Roughly speaking, based on the screenshots posted, are the FPS I get in games, at the settings visible in the screenshots.
Quake IV - 35-60fps
Battlefield 2 - 30-60fps
Battlefield Vietnam - 40-80fps
FEAR Combat - 25-45fps
Dark Messiah (Shadows low) - 35-50fps
Dark Messiah (Shadows high) - 22-40fps
Day of Defeat Source - 60-100fps
Call of Duty 2 - 26-50fps
Chaser - 40-80fps
SWAT 4 - 35-50fps
I am not the kind of person that likes playing games at high quality settings at the expense of playability. I aim to acheive about 45fps in most games when idle, to allow for big dips in intense situations. So far, in all the games I've tried apart from DM with shadows at high, I've easily kept above the minimum 25fps required to dictate smoothness in demanding situations, the average idle fps count being considerably higher... -
Hmm, Looks like I will have to get something like a Go7600 then, if I want Oblivion to run at playable frame rates. What a shame, and I was just about to get a Sony SZ. Oh well, good thing I found out though.
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For example, if you did the same thing relatively speaking with the Go7600 and tried to run Oblivion at maxed out settings, you'd get a similarly low FPS count. It's all about compromise, and what you personally find acceptable. I know I would not accept 13fps under any circumstances, but that is not to say the Go7400 cannot play Oblivion at a much higher fps then that. -
To all OCing Go7400 owners - what is your highest clock frequency for the core and memory at a stable level? i just want to know if i can OC my Go7400 anymore.
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I took some HL2: Lost Coast shots. It seemed to be running a little slower than usual, but it still looks great and runs mostly smooth.
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Beautiful screenshots. I have to admit Half Life 2 looks somewhat inferior on my Go7400 but that is because I aim to have about 50-60fps when idle and roughly 30fps in large outdoor areas and intense combat sections...The FPS in your screenshots look unacceptably low to me, and they are at idle periods most of them, let alone alot of action going on screen at once
@Goti - I have my 7400 at stock because the **** thing gets so hot, I can't imagine what sort of temps it reaches overclocked. I nearly hit 80c when gaming at stock. -
whoa thats real helpful there
7400 is one of the most asked about GPUs -
What are your current settings for HL? Res too. -
Wow.
Half-Life 2 LC looks amazing in those screenshots. -
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My settings are 1280x800, everything on high, reflect world, no vsync, no color correction, no AA, 8/16x AF, it depends sometimes. But the game is very very playable at those settings. -
Just a minor update, I ran Battlefield 2 again but tried the following settings:
1024x768
Texture Filtering: High
All Textures on Medium
View distance: 100%
Lighting: Medium
Shadows: Medium
Dynamic Light: Low
Looks much better then before, after I added Shadows, without which the game had a cartoon-ish almost look. The price for this is a reduction from about 50-80FPS to 30-60FPS, and is still totally playable even during heavy combat, at the bonus of looking much better.
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metalneverdies Notebook Evangelist
lookin good
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usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate
You guys should use Auto-Overclocking for your videocard to Overclock itself when entering 3D apps and clock back down when your done.
I do. Much simpler. I use ATI Tray Tools.
Except I have an X1600. -
can i do that auto-overclock thing in a nvidia card? and how?
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HavoK,
Are the screens for CoD3, BF2, DoD, FEAR taken from multiplayer or a single player modes? I am not ever near those FPS # while playing in multyplayer with my dv6000t.
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
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I was wondering how well these games would run on a x1600 or 7600 compared to the 7400. Is there a huge difference? -
Call of Duty 2 however is single player mode.
The X1600 and 7600 are considerably more powerful then the Go7400 also to whoever asked that - almost twice as powerful in fact. -
looks like you've got one heck of a rig... I do sincerely envy you...
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Full resolution, all settings on high.
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LOL... thats pretty good... after all it is a classic
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how well does 2gig C2D and the 7400 play Flight simulator x????????????
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I have a 2GB Core Duo with Go 7400. It plays FSX with acceptable frame rates. It could be better though.
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Yes, he already said earlier he has the settings cranked relatively high for a Go7400, and he finds low frame rates acceptable for the gain in image quality in certain games. It's all about personal taste, I myself would prefer to have the resolution a step down or two, if it meant an extra 10 frames, but each to their own.
Although that said, when I say I'd prefer to have the extra frames over the eye candy, no matter what I'd always strive to achieve an absolute minimum of 25 to 30fps , regardless of the genre or look of the game. -
hi everyone great post you have here
Hey havok can you tell what drivers are you using? next week ill finally get my dv5000t and i want get the best performance posibleand do you guys recommend me downloading all drivers from hp site?
P.D. I know in hp's site there's a driver for the 7400 but i dont know if they are any good... -
Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=64910
The Go7400 Screenshot thread
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HavoK, Dec 10, 2006.