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    The Witcher or Oblivion

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Dogigi, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. Dogigi

    Dogigi Notebook Enthusiast

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    I want to buy a new RPG and I'm stuck between The Witcher and Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion. What are thoughts on the two games? Should they even be compared? Which do you prefer and why? Thanks.
     
  2. Harleyquin07

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    Playing the Witcher now, very fun. Oblivion has a larger world and is more open-ended but the Witcher plot, storytelling, RPG elements and combat system appeal to me more. Ultimately your choice on what you look for.
     
  3. dksupremacy

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    Well, personally, i hated Oblivion, for one reason, I hated the melee attacks in the game, it was horrible for me, If you play Fable, Dark messiah of might and magic, compare the fightning with oblivion, the former two i mentioned eats oblivion in gameplay. Oblivion needs a better action rpg fightning system, i am shocked at how much people can play that game.


    I have the witcher, haven't played it yet, If i were you, i would play the demo of each game just to get a feel of which one has better gameplay,
     
  4. hollownail

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    Well, I vote Oblivion. It's an amazing game. Plenty of mods out there, and it's a very large, beautiful game. Engaging. Should give you at least 60 hours of game play. Plus, plenty of styles to play through it... evil, good, neutral... whatever you want. TONS of quests.

    Never played The Witcher.
     
  5. Harleyquin07

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    Demo for the witcher is roughly half of the prologue and a large part of chapter 1. Performance slightly inferior to patched 1.2 full version but worth the try to sample gameplay. 1Gb plus download.
     
  6. Peter Bazooka

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    I would definitely get Oblivion its very fun, very open, and it looks great...I bought the Witcher after readings some reviews and I can't get it to run more than 30 mins without crashing. I have tried everything from pathching the game, updating windows, changing gpu drivers and its still the most unstable game I have ever played and I can't recommend it until a new patch makes it more stable.
     
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    Bad luck there, for me the new patch and frequent defragging only result in crashes after hours of gameplay. Particularly crash-prone if I save/load often. Turning off DoF in the options helped a lot.
     
  8. hollownail

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    To be fair, Oblivion has also had it's share of bugs. Not sure how many are fixed with recent patches. But at one point, the expansion would start deleting your items.

    Yeah, melee combat isn't the best. But it's not terrible, just... not great. Magic and ranged are a lot of fun. Sneaking up on people and backstabbing them for a 1 hit kill and not having the guards alerted... priceless.
     
  9. Arki

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    Oblivion is an excellent game; I find myself coming back to it all the time. But I have to agree with Harley in that the fighting style in Fable was much more fun and enjoyable. Never played The Witcher though.
     
  10. BHD

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    they're both quality games. you'll want to play them both since those games don't come around too often. i'd personally go w/ oblivion first since it's been out longer but u can't go wrong w/ either.
     
  11. Harleyquin07

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    Never played Fable so don't know about that game's fighting mechanics. My original post was on the Witcher's combat mechanics, the motion-capture work looks really stylish once you get to level 2 styles and above. Can't wait to see a full set of moves if I progress far enough to get level 5 styles.
     
  12. link1313

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    Oblivion is a very pretty game that is engaging at first but you will reach a point when you realize the game is boring and has no substance.

    The Witcher on the otherhand had me glued to my computer for six days straight, lasted ~55 hours for me, and probably had one of the best stories in any game i've ever played.
     
  13. Dodoman

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    The Witcher all the way.
     
  14. Dogigi

    Dogigi Notebook Enthusiast

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    How does everybody feel about the combat in The Witcher? I've heard some different opinions on the subject.
     
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    Animation-based timed clicks if you want the combat sequence to go through the whole sequence and do the most damage, some users hate it here while others find it more interesting than repeated clicking on enemies in Oblivion as a melee character.
     
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    Ive got both. Witcher is amazing, the whole premise is that the world is not black and white but shades of gray, combat is fun. but oblivion is just well.....one of my fav games of all time. U are never really done with oblivion, always have something to do, it sucks back in. If u get it make sure u get the game of the year version, comes with expansion and extra content.
     
  17. lucirz

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    i found oblivion boring as ****.... after like 3 mission it was pointless....witcher is bttr man, the action is more engaging and the storyline is far bttr
     
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    Haven't played The Witcher but I like Oblivion - it's really open-ended. One of my favorite things about it is that if you can't afford to buy something in a store, you can steal it when the store-owner is asleep :D

    The best thing to do is take his keys while he's asleep, then just use that key to sneak in at night whenever you need stuff.
     
  19. lozanogo

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    Both of them are RPG's... but in very different ways, its hard to compare them. I have Oblivion and also played the demo of the Witcher. Both of them are excellent in their own ways. Get whichever you want and then go to the other.
     
  20. saintalfonzo

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    If you have a lot of time to devote to a game I would say go with Oblivion if you absolutely have to choose one. It just depends how involved a game you want to get into.
     
  21. hollownail

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    Does the Witcher have multiplayer? That was one of the big drawbacks to the Elder Scrolls... no multiplayer :-/
    Would be somewhat hard to control considering the modable nature of the game, but still... Bethesda really needs to make that into an MMO.
     
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    i dunno anything about the witcher but with oblivion and morrowind i always end up feeling overwhelmed with the boring complexity of a free roaming world so i mod it up and have some fun with the AI. then i get depressed cause i feel guilty for not doing any of the normal stuff ( to this day i have no idea about morrowinds main story . not a clue)...
     
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    Witcher is exclusively single player just like the Elder Scrolls.
     
  24. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    I was very disappointed when I played Oblivion; to me it is just a mix of Diablo 2 and GTA3. Lots of senseless killing of monsters with randomly spawned names and quests. Although I appreciate non-linear gameplay, Oblivion is too loose for me.

    I haven't played the Witcher, but to me its style seems to agree with my preferences more. It really depends on the gameplay that you prefer.
     
  25. Harleyquin07

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    Looks like the majority of posters in this thread have played Oblivion but not the Witcher, I'll say one thing for Oblivion in that its mod community is thriving whereas the Witcher being recently released has yet to see its editor released by the developers.
     
  26. HTWingNut

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    I tried the Witcher demo and it did nothing for me. Just an enhanced Diablo - it's a clickfest more or less.
     
  27. omino-ukg

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    Well I've got Oblivion (on the Xbox360) and The Witcher and of the two I defintely prefer The Withcer. I don't know why but I just couldn't get into Oblivion for some reason but The Witcher had me hooked more or less straight away. The only problem with the Witcher as someone has already mentioned is it's stability. It is constantly crashing on me, sometimes after 20 minutes, other times after a couple of hours of play. It's got to the point where I can't play it anymore so will have to wait until another patch is released to sort it out which is a shame because I was really enjoying it. Seems to be affecting Vista owners more than XP owners and I run Vista on my laptop.
     
  28. Spartan82

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    Wow....now this is a topic that can really get me going!

    I should probably start by saying that my opinion is not entirely objective (although I AM doing my best :). I'm of Polish origin and I speak the language, so I actually went through the trouble of getting a Polish Special Edition of the game. It's excellent (loaded with extra features) and for a Polish speaker adds even more depth and quality to the game. There's some things you just won't be able to translate well enough!

    Both games are excellent though, with a few noticable differences. Let me highlight some of those for you.

    The Characters, the Story, the Climate, the Uniqueness ->

    Witcher all the way. The game is based on a 7-book saga by an acclaimed Polish fantasy author Andrzej (Andrew) Sapkowski. I've read it so many times I practically know it by heart, it is really excellent and the game follows the books, which means the Witcher blows everything (including Oblivion) out of the water in that department. The game is very mature, there's no good or evil everything is grey, quite often you just get to choose between the greater and the lesser evil, it's the best I've seen in a game so far. The first village you arrive at seems pretty unremarkable at first, but then it turns out to be tainted with hatred, cunning, murder, kidnapping,deceipt and hipocrysy actually powerful enough to summon and outworldly Beast (that you will have to defeat). Depending on your choices, you may even have to kill all the villagers in the end, when they turn against you and a witch you've decided to help (that accidently has been supplying poisons and love potions to the villagers themselves...)

    Graphics, Sound ->

    Again, I have to say The Witcher. The game looks beautiful even on low/medium settings. The sound/music is excellent as well, very climactic.

    Gameplay ->

    The Wicher! Hehe I AM trying to be objective here :). I've played many RPGs in the last 12 or so years and Oblivion basically follows the same mechanics of combat and storytelling the previous games did, which is OK but quite boring and not at all spectacular.

    The Witcher introduces an entirely new approach to combat. Geralt is an excellent swordsman (since he's not even human) and the fights are based on sets of combos that get more advanced (read:more powerful, longer and more awesome-looking) continuously as you progress through the game. There's also cool finishing moves for each fighting style (and there are three fighting styles, times 2 swords silver for monsters and steel for people, times 5 combo levels each, you do the math). You can also finish off stunned/unconscious opponents with some interesting moves.

    Gameplay Length ->

    Have to say Oblivion, it's a very long game, can last you a few hundred hours even! Witcher is very intense but short, easily finished in around 50 hours of gameplay, although there's a catch. With so many choices, the game can be replayed many times for a different experience. It won't do to just load a save and see what happens, since the outcomes of your decisions are not revealed until quite a bit later in the game.

    Freedom ->

    Oblivion again, much bigger world and much more freedom to travel, which isn't to say the Witcher is small, it's just not near as big as Oblivion.

    Stability ->

    Never had any issues with Oblivion, the Witcher tends to crash under Vista, much better in XP especially when you take the Depth of Field off and install the latest patch. Only crashed on me once but I'm using higly O/C'd drivers so that could well be the reason.


    Closing Comments->

    I played Oblivion for a good bit before I even heard of the Witcher and I enjoyed it, but the fact that enemies scale to your level automatically all the time put me off the game. If there was a way to cap your XP you could easily finish Oblivion being lvl 1 all the time, I like the idea of progress but the fact in Oblivion it's practically meaningless put me off the game.

    If you like a lot of freedom, decent story, a well-polished game in a good-old RPG style with craploads of equipment and weapons, Oblivion is for you. The Witcher on the other hand has an _excellent_ story, a very cool protagonist, an innovative combat system that is awesome-looking, easy to learn and moderately difficult to master, very good graphics, effective inventory management system and not too much junk in the form of armor and weapons (Oblivion has LOADS of that junk) plus a very cool alchemy system (that is even necessary to finish the game at the highest difficulty setting.)

    Phew, hopefully that helps you make the right choice :)
     
  29. lozanogo

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    @Spartan82:
    Excellent quick review on both games. I have played both (I have Oblivion and played the Witcher demo too) and have a couple of comments:
    1) Innovative approach to combat in the Witcher? Yes and no. If you have played Diablo 2:LOD with the assasin, it has also a kind of combo attacks, altough not as diversified as in the Witcher. For me is like an updated Diablo 2 system.
    2) Now on Oblivion: yes, you can in theory finish it on lv1. So it then becomes meaningless? Not quite. If you are playing just with the standard warrior it is true. But if you chose to be any related magic user, you would like definitely to do some leveling so you can enjoy of the upper level magics (like the summons).

    Besides those comments, I agree with the rest of your review.
     
  30. Harleyquin07

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    Pulp didn't like the combat system, it seems Vagrant story for the consoles has a timed attack system reminiscent of the Witcher which doesn't suit everyone's taste. Others dislike the Witcher for the stability issues and lack of equipment.

    Spartan's review does emphasise the strongest aspect of the Witcher: The story and decisions. Most Oblivion players don't finish the main quest at once since the freedom to explore is more compelling, but the Witcher main story has a good hook which draws many players in.
     
  31. Spartan82

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    1) I've played D2 and D2:LOD but that was ages ago and not with an assasin :). From what I remember it was pretty much point-and-click though, and the Witcher does give you the strong, the quick and the group combat styles, plus if you only played the demo you'd progress to lvl2 combos max, they do get much more interesting once you acquire lvl3-5 combo talents :)

    Throw various potions and Signs in the mix (witchers can only use basic forms of magic as opposed to wizards/sorcerors) and you get yourself a varied and interesting combat experience.

    2) There's a risk that if you choose/lvl up the wrong skills your character will become weaker and weaker as you go along, just didn't like the idea of having to catch up to my enemies all the time rather than gaining an advantage :)
     
  32. lozanogo

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    True, I am not arguing your points, but let me extend them a little:
    1) Yes, I agree with you on this point. As I mentioned there is more of the system in the Witcher.

    2) That is a possibility but there are easy ways to control it. Also, as you increase level you get access to better weapons and armor.

    Note: From your writing: are you implying the Witcher is not a point-and-click game?