The best Netbook for gaming.

Holy crap! Just for the heck of it, I installed Far Cry 2. Overclocked to 2.1 GHz, at minimum settings the game runs GREAT! LOL. At minimum settings mind you.

It can get bogged down from time to time, but for the most part it's upper teens lower 20's fps.

 

Ion video

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LMAO bro my bad i meant CAN

edit: jay that vid looks great cant wait

 

Wowwww.... drool. I can see my N10 traded in sometime next year for the Asus (or other brand) with this combination.

 

The Everun Note is pretty good for gaming too. Check out Youtube for some vids.

 

everun note is a different machine...

which has a much better cpu... athlon x2
but it's graphic chip is a weak one... yes it is better then the GMA 950
but no where touch the power of the 9300M GS

so if you want to play games like fallout 3 / deadspace using the netbook
N10J is the only choice for now...
My user name is furyagain in www.n10user.com

i also had tested alot of games tooo...
the games that i love playing on my N10J are...
fallout 3 , Left 4 Dead , Dead Space, Counterstrike: source

by the way steam is your best friend....
which i can just download the game. and play them without the need of CD

( I am typing using the N10J in my bed room)
( Many people also have upgraded their harddrive to like 7200rpm drive.. which are pretty fast.... My self i got a 5400 rpm drive instead...but which has 500gb.. the seagate 5400.6 which also have over 60mb/sec average in tranfer rate )


about the 9400 chipset..
i did some research..
the 9400 intergrated chip.. 's 3d performance is just similar to what the 9300M GS
they have similar shader / clock

but the 9300M GS has a advantage.. as it has it's own 256mb memory

while the 9400 just like all intergrated solution... has shared memory

we will see..
even if the ION 's performance is similar to N10J..
if the weight/size can cut down a abit.. i may still change it.

 

The 9400 has 128-bit bus, though, which is why it may someday be able to beat the 9300 with it's 64-bit. I imagine that once the 9400 gets to use the 1333 RAM it will be even better.

Hopefully Ion does well- I'd really like to see Intel come out with a good IGP for once, since most smaller laptops (12"-13") use the Intel integrated.

 

Looks like my next netbook will be running on Ion. If I can get close to my MacBook's performance, I'd be happy.

 

Well, I was looking around as well, and the current Asus N10J seems to be on par with the 9400m. Cool. I'll have to fire up Call of Duty 4 and see how well it runs on it! It plays Left 4 Dead, Dead Space, Fallout 3, and heck, even Far Cry 2 on low settings! So I don't see why CoD 4 wouldn't run.

 

I tried COD4 like 2 months ago
it plays good...
i can even play online multiplayer game... playable...

about fallout 3
you can not only run it... but at med setting , also with 2X AA and 2xAF

you will be amazed by this tiny machine

as long as the game is not too cpu bound....
then it will be fine.. ofcause.. overclocking the cpu is a must!!!!!!
also the gpu 's memory.. from 400mhz to 520mhz..

 

Does anyone have video of the Asus N10J running WoW WoTLK?

 

Hi Furyagain! I think you mean GPU memory from 400MHz to 520MHz?

GPU stock is 550Mhz
Mem stock is 400MHz

Many, myself included, can't get the GPU much past 580MHz and the memory much past 450MHz. With this overclock I have seen little fps improvement in any game or artificial benchmark so far. I think overclocking the GPU is a bit overkill considering the Atom CPU even overclocked, is still underpowered to feed the 9300m GS appropriately.

 

mm overclock gpu doesn't help too much... but the memory does...

about the stock clock i believe the
9300M gs 's stock is 580mhz
memory 400mhz

i have the 9300mGS run at 620mhz core / 520 memory all the time

 

Hmmm, I remember your post at N10user.com. I was impressed with that overclock. And yes you are right, 580MHz is GPU clock, my bad.

Either way, I can only get to 590MHz before it crashes, and memory about 450MHz. So even at 450, it's like a 12% overclock, and makes my system unstable, not gonna bother with it. Glad yours works great though!

 

Intel says no to Atom for Ion

 

THAT SUCKS.

 

Just saw this, and I cannot believe how big a bully Intel is being here! Nvidia is already in the dumps, AMD has been winning (4000 series) and yet STILL crashing and burning as a corporation, and Intel is just sitting and watching it all. Now, not only are they sitting, they are pulling an Apple and whacking anyone who might hurt their 'future' proprietary technology. Can't let the 9400M in when those integrated Intel X4500/X5800 chips hit netbooks, nobody would want an Intel netbook chipset!

 

Talk about stifiling advancement.

 

I won't lie, I'll gladly take a netbook with an X5800 graphics chipset if it's as power efficient as the X4500 and is as much of an improvement on the X4500 as the X4500 was on the X3100.
For that small of a form factor, part of me would just want it to be all Intel.
...problem is, this is even more far off than Ion!

 

N10J gets 4-6 hrs use with 9300m GS, depending on what's enabled, and a little longer life with Vista than XP.

 

Acer-Aspire One with Ion Analysis and Details

 

No barrier to 9400M for Atom after all?

 

Now that is one small PC! Except it is lacking a memory slot.

 

Any news on any netbooks coming with this platform yet?

 

This platform wont be out till summer maybe even later so no one can really say yet.

this with a pineview would be awesome

 

Yes it would!
When is the new pinview CPU coming? and at what specs?
The ASUS N10 J is starting to look really tempting now though.

 

it colcks a 1.66 so .6 faster BUT it also has an FSB of 667 compared to 533 thats actually gonna be a huge difference then the new pineviews are fanless too this maybe worth a wait for whoever wants it

 

Will it be compatible with the ION platform?

 

Probably. When the Nehalem laptop processors on the Calpella platform come out this fall, the dual core version (Auburndale) like Atom will have the graphics gpu integrated with the cpu. They will still be able to have Nvidia or ATI graphics, probably means that most laptops will have switchable graphics?

Ion PC's coming in Q2 or Q3

 

the interesting thing as well is i wonder how far it can overlock because it is is a fanless platform if you can push this thing to about 2.1 you should be fine.

 

Well if Nvidia starts making netbooks(I hope the rumor is true) it's going to be a very interesting year!

 

9400 share 128bit with rest of the component (northbridge, CPU etc), while 9300 is using its own memory where no one will have access to it.

 

The best Netbook for gaming is a state of mind. there isn't any and by that i mean it is always evolving so you can buy a great gaming laptop like the sager 96 series but it will not be the best because it keeps changing.

 

Well in this case, netbooks are quite limited as far as gaming. Pretty much all of them have the same specs: Atom 1.6GHz, 1 or 2GB RAM, Intel GMA 950 GPU, SSD or 2.5" HDD.

The only exception at the moment is the Asus N10J which has the 9300m GS dedicated GPU. It does well. It's only downfall is the lack of 1024x768 support on the netbook's screen. This limits many games from playing.

 

Perhaps real gaming Netbooks would cause lower sales of gaming laptops. If you had the choice of lugging around a 15'' Laptop or a 10-12'' Netbook that had exactly the same performance, I bet most of you would purchase the latter.

What would then happen to the bigger gaming laptop sales?

I get the feeling that this is why there are no real gaming Netbooks.

I am looking at what my next gaming Laptop will be and after seeing the Nvidia Ion, I am hoping this will be incorporated into a Netbook.

If this happened then this might be more interesting to me than buying another full sized gaming laptop.

 

That doesn't really make sense to me. Isn't that exactly what notebook companies would want? The chance to have people who already own larger gaming notebooks to buy another new notebook just because it's smaller. And who knows, they could even charge much more for the royalty. I know I'd pay over $2k for an 8.9" inch'r with equivelant power to a 2.4Ghz C2D, MR-HD4670. And 10" notebooks aren't small enough, (can't fit in my pocket) though 8.9" is perfect.

Btw, the ION platform is supposably half the size of the 945i express chipset used in the current netbooks, so I'm pretty sure it's intent is to take some of the netbook market share. If this ION is used in any 8.9" notebooks anytime soon, I'll definately be selling this aspire one and buying one asap. If it lives up to the hype.

 

the interesting thing is they say 10X faster graphics(then a 950) but shouldnt that number really be like 20x? I guess the CPU is stopping it from higher performance.

 

That may be good for the people who already own larger gaming notebooks but I wouldn't even own one in the first place if they had these smaller ones that could perform just as well.

 

Yeah from what I have read the ION platform should work great the only problem I see is the CPU bottleneck the performance a bit, hopefully the newer ATOM replacement(pinevile or something) will be available soon also.
I have also read that Nvidia might get into the netbook business, if these rumors are true expect a "gaming netbook" from them for sure....( Hey we could all dream.....)

 

being a gaming "netbook"
doesn't really need to be as powerful as the notebook
just need to be powerful enough


I have been playing many games using my N10J

games like
Fallout 3
defense grid ( really additive tower game )
L4D ( online play )
deadspace
CS:S

as long as the game doesn't really need alot of cpu power..
N10J can handle it (after overclock to 2ghz)
because the screen 's res is only 1024*600
sometime i can even enable AA and AF too

 

oh yeah? thats cool fury i wonder if there an update to the N10j coming up.....(there probably is)

 

Considering the Atom CPU is the only contender at the moment with no indication of running faster, and the 9300m GS is really the only compatible dedicated GPU, the only update would be with the screen res (hopefully 1280x800), added features like multimedia buttons, or bug fixes (like losing LAN with even moderate overclock).

But there's not much to add really. Unless you want GPS or 3G support, but there's the ExpressCard slot for that. It already has WiFi B/G/N, BT, HDMI, VGA, Ethernet, Audio/Mic, USB.

If I can get support for 1024x768 on the 1024x600 screen as-is, then I'm a very happy camper.

 

i would love to see the AMD neo in one of these netbooks i dont think it can fit though but it can definitely fit inside of the 12" notebooks.

 

the N10J is not that small..
it is abit bigger then the average 10" netbook
from the casing.
it should be able to take a 11" or even abit bigger screen
as long as the price is not going to be much more expensive
i don't mind having the AMD cpu in it.
if it give abit more performance.

from what i can see
as long as i can get performance like a 3ghz atom
then i will be happy!!!!
there will be MUCH more game become playable on this netbook

 

I keep on hearing of the new Neo CPU from AMD, do any netbooks have them yet?any announcements from manufactures as to when they will be offered yet?

 

No netbooks AFAIK, only HP's Pavilion dv2 (12.1").

 

Really considering getting the N10 J A1,I have looked around and every one comes with Vista, want to get one with XP.
Since it has a smaller screen than a regular laptop and probably not notice the difference between DX9 and DX10 in such a tiny form factor, XP should give it a slight boost for gaming right?(the all important FPS)
I could be wrong, but XP is better for gaming right?

 

But there is the quandry - if you want all that for a gaming netbook then it will cost a lot more (you wont get a lot for little money which seems to be the cry of those who are expecting a lot from a 'netbook'), sort of defeats the purpose of the whole 'netbook' thing anyways

 

it doesn't defeats the purpose of "netbook"
to me
it is the size that matter

 

Look for the N10J c. Same specs, but only 1GB RAM, and comes with only XP Home.

Here's the differences:

N10J-A1: 160GB 5400RPM HDD, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium, $679
N10J-A2: 320GB 5400RPM HDD, 2GB RAM, Vista Business / XP Pro XP3, $799
N10Jc-A1: 160GB 5400RPM HDD, 1GB RAM, XP Home SP3, $649

If a 160GB HDD is good for you, and don't have an XP license, your best bet is to go with the N10Jc-A1 and buy a 2GB RAM module if you want 2GB, which I recommend for gaming, and will only cost you about $20 from newegg.com (SO-DIMM DDR2 667 PC2 5300). Otherwise the A2 is best of all worlds with Vista, XP Pro, 320GB HDD, 2GB RAM.

I personally bought the A1 because I had a Windows XP license and wanted a 7200 RPM HDD. So it cost me a little less than the A2 after buying the HDD, but ended up with a 7200 RPM HDD!