The good ship renaming has come into port at AMD and NVidia, HD7 and 6xx series launch!

AnandTech - Introducing AMD?s Radeon 7000M and NVIDIA?s GeForce 600M Mobile GPUs

Well that's one of the most wet blanket launches I have ever seen.

 

Not too surprising.

 

I look forward to the new influx of posts and threads stating, "Why doesn't my new laptop play games better than my old one?"

Mr. Mysterious

 

The numbers are higher, it has to be better!

 

Posted this in the hardware section, might as well post it here since the other thread is gonna be shut down

 

It has 2-4GB of ram, surely that helps?

 

I want the one with the GBs and the MHzs and the wifis and the internets.

 

What is the point of this other than to try and scam money from the intellectually challenged portion of the laptop community?

 

well unless they're charging a higher price, its not really a scam.

 

They're definitely going to charge a higher price.

 

I don't know about that.

The Nvidia 8800 Ultra cost $800, and when it was released in 2006/07 it was the fastest Nvidia video card available.

Now the highest-end Nvidia video card, the GTX 580, costs $750 on newegg.

 

i think higher price as in same price as the old one when they were first released

 

/shakes head/

/slams head on desk/

 

so its basically the same as what happened during the transition between the 9 series and the 2 series, although i think for the 6 series there will be a lot more cards available.

 

I'm still hoping the high end will be the VLIW4 architecture at 28nm. This architecture was only used by the Cayman, HD6970 desktop. So it be still new for mobile.

But if we are very lucky, maybe GCN, but chance of that I think is slim to none.

 

Que?

Exactly what I meant.

 

Both GCN and Kepler will be released in 2012. The first Kepler GPU (28nm) will be released around March-ish and will be a 128bit. Next Kepler will be around April and should be the one we should be waiting for. See the slide here:

NVIDIA GeForce Kepler Roadmap Compiled | techPowerUp

AMD will be the first one out (Kudos) with a GPU that use the GCN architecture which is only for the 7900 series. 7950 and 7970 is supposed to come out early 2012. Both of them are pretty beast, 7970 have a 384 bit memory bus, 7950 is either a 256bit or 384bit. To illustrate further the 7800 series is supposed to be equal to the 6900 series, so you can only imagine how awesome the 7900 series will be

So to summarize: Only a fool would jump on the "ZOMG the new GPUs from AMD is here" and buy the 7400/7500/7600M series that is very soon out.

Here is an article about 7950/7970:
AMD Radeon HD 7950 and HD 7970 GPUs Detailed ? Report - Softpedia
Here is an article about GCN:
UPDATE Radeon HD 7000 Revealed: AMD to Mix GCN with VLIW4 & VLIW5 Architectures - Bright Side Of News*

 

so i still have a little more time to enjoy my 6990M *sob*

 

lol I think you are settled for quite some time with that setup anyways dragon

 

AMD and Nvidia used to make new graphics cards, but then they took an arrow to the knee.

 

What you did there. I see it.

 

AMD won't have a mobile GN core as it's only their largest that will be it and it will be too big for a notebook (or you get a 480M :/)

 

Huh seriously? So we are stuck with the old architecture? Are you shure they won`t shrink the desktop models? What about Nvidia and their Kepler?

 

where do you guys get all the free money to buy all these new best graphic cards so frequently?! the 6990m will be perfectly fine for anything for a while. Probably until the new consoles are released.

 

Called having a job.

 

Even so most of us Americans are having a hard time. Anyways...

 

Which pays for food, house, family (if you have one), and to have 1000 laying around every few months just for something you dont actually need. All im saying

 

Coming from a guy with a $3500 gaming desktop...

All I'm saying

 

LOL. I was thinking that along with all the "deceased" Alienware laptops.

If the new cards turn out to be a large improvement I'll get one, if not I'll wait for the 700 series. Might be able to play Skyrim in 3D then without dropping the settings.

 

Really, I'm crossing my fingers that he bought the M17X and then kept getting bad machines replaced and upgraded up to his current computer. After all, the squeaky wheel gets the grease! Sometimes Dell and HP are only willing to put up with so much harassment before they give in to replace-and-upgrade demands.

However, it would be more ironic (maybe hypocritical is the better word) if he's actually purchased half a dozen Alienware machines in the past three years, so that would be good too.

On subject - AMD sticking to 40nm for the 7400 and maybe 7500 series makes some sense - they typically don't move to the smaller process all at once. I would have appreciated seeing 28nm on the 7600 series though, if only because it's possible that I'll upgrade to something in the 7600 range this summer and I'd like the thermal/performance upgrades that 28nm would offer.

As for Nvidia's announcement, I consider it fairly positive. Rebranding GPU's in the new series isn't uncommon, and it's good that the rebrands are getting noticeable points decreases - much better than, say, the 5650m being rebranded as the 6630m. They're opening up some headspace for some more powerful higher-end parts, so that's good.

 

I'm not buying a new machine until 28nm GPU's and 22nm CPU's are in it. I'm pretty quick to file my tax return, but if it takes until Q2 to release truly new hardware then that money will just have to sit there.

 

Yeah i originally got an m17 back in 2008 and theyve all had issues and been replaced since, for the desktop they gave me some of the money i paid back to spend on another dell machine.

 

With my year end bonus I am purchasing anywhere between 1 and 5 Alienwares to put in a box and dump off a cliff.

 

Pretty much. The G92/b were the 8800M series and the 9800 were basically overclocked 8800M's while the 200M's series were basically overclocked 9000M series.

I guess AMD is taking note of how nVidia has been doing things -- die shrink, overclock, rinse repeat.

 

What is it about the 28nm process at TSMC that they're having a hard time straightening it out and getting enough chips out?

 

It's hard to make chips at that level and a lot of the initial runs have been bad.

 

Lemme say this... the 680m better be compatible for my R3!!

 

That still leaves a lot of room for "real" chips. I mean, if the 6 35M is the rebranded 555M, that's actually a really good sign.

Things look much more dire on the AMD side. The 7690M was supposed to be 28nm, and now it's a sad little rebranded 6770M. The 7700M had better be a huge step up from that GPU.

 

Well, its because AMD doesn't have much further to go. Their SP configurations are rather fixed and they tend to play more with clocks than with anything else. For the absolute high end, they can, at best, make something like a 1408sp unit, but thats a bit too much I think. I believe they will pull an HD6930 with 1280sp units as the next high end.

so what happens at the middle to high? They can simply put the 7700 being 640sp units or even 800sp units like the HD5870m, and then the 7890 being 960sp, 7970 be 1120 and 7990 be 1280sp.

Something like that. Nvidia, on the other hand, has a ridiculous amount of core configurations so they have easier numbers to play with.

As long as the high end gets 28nm so that we get less tdp and perhaps good enough clocks ill be happy. I am waiting for the absolute high end from AMD, check the price, and depending on that I might just get the HD6990m (or its rebranded counterpart).

 

i doubt they will rebrand the 6990M. They can keep the same TDP, just give me higher clocks and shaders.

 

Nah I'll be massively disappointed if the 7970M doesn't possess 1408 shaders.

That leaves room for a 1280, a 1120, a 960, name them what you will, and in a perfect world the 7700M should have no less than 800sp.

 

Official Release Date of AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series is Confirmed - Lenzfire

 

nice! but then i realized its the desktop version =.=

 

Heres hoping these awesome specs will be transfered somewhat to the 7970M

 

I am ok for even 2/3 of it

 

Look for the desktop 7800 series to set the tone for the high-end mobile chips. I think the 7870 is supposed to have 1530-something shaders, the 7850 with 1408.

Right there's your 7990M and 7970M.

 

Take this with a grain of salt

Google translate

NVIDIA Kepler GK104 gets up to 768 CUDA cores [Rumor]

 

Even the low end of 640 shaders and 80 ROPs would be quite the leap from the current GTX 580M.

This next generation of mobile tech is bringing incredible levels of performance.

 

The reason the 7970 seems to have less shaders are that they are one dimentional. I would be surprised if their highest mobile did not have around 1400 4 way shaders.

 

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