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    The initial verdict on next gen performance

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by JRE84, Nov 11, 2020.

  1. hertzian56

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    Agreed, with new stuff it sucks, mxm was awesome. That's why I love the old business and gaming class laptops but just overpriced now all around. A case for desktops I guess.
     
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    But, those indie games usually don't require a great machine to run well, those games tend to be pretty much Unreal Engine and not much else. Probably a mid-range PC would do a good job with that kind of games. The problem are the AAA games. Those games need something like 1.5x raw power of consoles to run well because they are poorly optimized for PC. But I get what you mean, I prefer to play games on PC/laptop too, but maybe for different reasons. Until now I prefer PC because you can run games at much higher frame rates and with better graphics, but to get that performance today implies to expend more than x5 than the cost of a console.
     
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    It doesn't really matter to me what graphics power those games require, there's a large amount of them only available on PC and a lot of them are fantastic games. A large percentage of them that at least require something more than an iGPU though to be truly enjoyable. They are mostly just icing on the cake for PC.
     
  4. JRE84

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    times have changed. gtx 780 still able to game at 1080p and was released in May 23, 2013.. actually it performs like a 1650 super when overclocked...now 7 years of gaming is pretty unheard of but its looking to be the trend. you dont need the latest and greatest if your only aim is 60fps and a mixed settings game but with great visual fidelity
     
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    Add to that some of us still play older games. Yeah I buy and play newer ones, but basically I'm looking for the next one to replace the old one that I still like better. Like Cyberpunk to dethrone my open world RPG need, that I'm very picky about what I do/don't like.

    However, with that said, I'm always up for more performance too, until a point. Once every game I have plays at max settings, at my max resolution and refresh I would stop upgrading, but that has never happened for me yet.
     
  6. JRE84

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    yeah Im just impressed with how well cards have aged....I think alot of it has to do with the fact the consoles are static and we get alot of ports
     
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    Couldn't agree more, if you can see through the name game the performance isn't that different just
    Couldn't agree more, the name game that nvidia uses is just marketing. An old x80 level gpu still holds up today vs x50 or x60 level stuff it just goes down every new name 970=1060 etc I think that's why nvidia etc dreams up these gimmicky things like ray tracing so people will pay more for a bit more eye candy. I'm not saying ray tracing may not be worth it, I've never seen it myself in game before but from what I've read it kills fps etc even on higher cards. The 980m came out in 2014 and from what I see it would equal or be about 5% less fps in games as a 1650 mobile, medium to high settings 1080p/60. And from what I've seen mobile gaming at 1080p you wouldn't need more than 4gb vram. RDR2 takes up about 4.2gb vram at a mix of high/vhigh settings on an 8gb vram card.
     
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    Yeah it's like every new gen on consoles the graphic improvement gets smaller. From PS1 to PS2 the jump was huge in graphics, PS1 graphics are like minecraft lol and some PS2 games look great even today, like Silent Hill 3. From PS2 to PS3 the jump was also quite big specially in resolution coming from 640x480 to 720/1080p you can definitely tell the difference even sitting at a relative far distance. From PS3 to PS4 the jump in not that big in graphics, still playing at 1080p but the games have now much better physics and the characters have more natural movements, and of course we have now better shadows and lightning. From PS4 to PS5 the graphics difference, I'm not sure yet man, but it seems consoles are going to get better frame rates for sure, and probably 4K. If games end up like the PS5 demo, then even more natural movement from the characters, and more polygons seems to be the improvement
     
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    Yeah I took a break from the AC games after 3 and only this year came back to 4, odyssey and origins. And after a few years a replay of older games is like almost new. TW2/3, FO3/4/NV, DS2/3, Splinter Cells etc etc. replays ensure plenty of high quality gaming for a long time. Consoles don't usually have that far back compatibility. And with updated equipment you can max it out, really great. Add all the great indie games that go on sale and it's even better.
     
  10. JRE84

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    yeah we are spoiled rotten....I have like 200 AAA games I have yet to play/beat And I'm sure ill have just as much fun playing them when I get the chance as ps5 ports
     
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    The main benefit PC has over consoles is choice over settings. I'm not always forced to 30fps i can drop eye candy for a higher framerate if i want.
     
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