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    The witcher 2: any point getting it with a laptop?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Audi4ever, May 24, 2011.

  1. Audi4ever

    Audi4ever Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wounder as i only have a laptop with i7 740 and a GTX460m. Do i waste my money if i buy this game, or should i wait until get i powerful desktop?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    The Witcher 2 looks awesome even on medium.
    You wont be disapointed.
     
  3. Audi4ever

    Audi4ever Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks DEagleson

    This game has top review everythere.

    As you are located in Norwayhttp://go.dagbladet.no/go/e/main_pos3_1;afu=www.dagbladet.no/http://www.pressfire.no/anmeldelser/PC/3485/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings
     
  4. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Definitely worth it. Once you get out of the first part with the king it runs alot better since it calms down a bit.

    Then game is not good looking....NO...It is absolutely FLABBERGASTING, the BEST game i have ever played in a long time since DA: and :) Megaman Battlenetwork 3. It looks photo realistic.
     
  5. X2Eliah

    X2Eliah Notebook Guru

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    Playing it on a laptop with 5870 card, which is +- on par with yours. Runs well enough on custom settings ~around high, looks amazing. So yeah, it is worth it.
     
  6. rot112

    rot112 El Rompe ToTo

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    Yep X2, high as in ultra with no aa, no motion blur, no uber and no SSAO. I would enjoy the game alot more if i could run ssao and have high fps. Gotta wait till they optimize it abit more though. It still looks amazing though.
     
  7. hidavi

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    It runs fine on my GX740 (i5 460m + 5870, no OC). Just make sure you disable Catalyst AI and use the GoG exe.
     
  8. Audi4ever

    Audi4ever Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks guys

    Sounds very good to my ears
     
  9. hidavi

    hidavi Notebook Evangelist

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    No prob man. Also, ATi should be releasing a hotfix for the game today/tomorrow and CDPR should be releasing a patch today/tomorrow for performance as well. Should be all neat by then, unless they break something else.
     
  10. Kevin

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    How do you disable Catalyst AI?
     
  11. jerg

    jerg Have fun. Stay alive.

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    Go into CCC (catalyst control centre) menu, go to 3D settings, and one of the options is for turning on/off Catalyst AI.
     
  12. cccplus

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    i read the cdp said that the gog.exe will break future quests down the line. so i'm holding out on playing this until the first patch arrives.
     
  13. Syberia

    Syberia Notebook Deity

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    Then everyone who bought the game from GoG would be screwed. I highly doubt that.
     
  14. hidavi

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    I read a CDPR post saying that it was fine actually.
     
  15. Arioch

    Arioch Notebook Consultant

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    Why? Any noticeable benefits?
     
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    Harleyquin07 エミヤ

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    GOG.exe bypasses the SECUROM protection that has been the culprit for many a performance degradation issue, the catalyst AI seems to be another determinant in poor performance in some machines.
     
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    It seems to be really well optimized for multi-threading.

    I'm getting about 45+ fps on my Envy 15 laptop (specs below in sig) at 1920x1080 resolution, very large texture memory setting and all settings maxed (at Ultra) except ubersampling disabled.

    looks gorgeous as well.

    According to notebook check, I believe your 460M is rated higher than my AMD 5830M, so you should get great results as well.

    It's possible my SSD helps the frame rate slightly with hi res textures, but overall you should be fine at Ultra settings with ubersampling disabled.



    EDIT: I've been informed that 45+fps is "impossible" with my hardware - will check this with FRAPS and report back. Eyeballing it, it certainly seems higher than 30fps.

    EDIT EDIT: checked with Fraps and holy crap I'm only getting around 25-28 fps. Why does it look so smooth? Normally below 30 fps in any game starts to look like a slide show. Is it because there is a kind of motion blur when you turn the camera angle with your mouse?
     
  18. Kevin

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    Impossible. Even the GTX 460M and 5870M can not play the game with those settings, at 45fps and higher.
     
  19. dttran83

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    Ultra setting at 1080p with 45+ fps? I highly doubt it with your system.
     
  20. moviemarketing

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    I'll check with FRAPS to confirm, but it certainly seemed to be well over 30fps.

    and it looks gorgeous even with ubersampling disabled IMO
     
  21. dttran83

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    I guess the game is more optimaze for nvidia. I don't have the game myself but I been reading around and it a system killer. Even a dual GTx 580 having problem running it max out with ubersampling enable.
     
  22. Harleyquin07

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    Forgot about anything notebook card playing the game maxed out, it seems the developers built the game ground up on DX9 using the best desktop cards available in SLI/CF with provision for future architecture improvements.

    The only forum users who can run the game at playable framerates at maximum settings (ubersampling et al) are playing the game on a beastly desktop configuration.
     
  23. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    the ubersampling feature is designed for dual or triple video cards.

    the game still looks great without it.
     
  24. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Im doing 30fpa stable with my xps in sig.
    1200p with a mixture of high/ultra settings with antialiasing.
    Ubersampling is turned off.
    So far the lowest i seen is 25fps but the game is slow paced so it feels utter smooth even at that speed.
     
  25. hidavi

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    doesnt matter really cuz game still looks great on medium settings with aa enabled.
     
  26. rot112

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    Then what am i doing wrong. Game runs like crap on my system and not so much better with the gog files.

    What settings are the 460m users using right now.
     
  27. hidavi

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    You have the 1.1 patch and the latest nvidia driver? Did you uninstall 3D vision?
     
  28. JoeyFUZZ911

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    I'm waiting on my Witcher 2 game, but what do u think I can run the settings on with my specs which are at the bottom?
     
  29. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    I'm sure it will run great! Nice processor there but most important is your gpu, your gpu is the 2nd most powerful mobile card. :eek:
     
  30. JoeyFUZZ911

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    Yea I know, the machine is a beast, but I heard witched 2 is graphically demanding. Not sure what settings would be recommended. I always run FRAPS when I first play a game to get atleast 30fps but I try to shoot closer to 60fps.

    How's the new m14x?
     
  31. TearTaker

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    You'll have no problem running witcher 2, Joey. I run it at ultra averaging about 50 fps. You will love it. ;)
     
  32. JoeyFUZZ911

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    Thanks, I appreciate it! Just have to wait for it to come in the mail. Never played the first one, but not sure if that matters.

    Btw, teartaker, what resolution you play it on, and do u have any anti-arising on?
     
  33. TearTaker

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    I play at 1080p, and no I do not. Don't worry, it looks beautiful no matter what.
     
  34. JoeyFUZZ911

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    ok so i have a problem! i just installed witcher 2 and the picture is messed up? i dont know what i did wrong. installed from 2 discs and it downloaded some patch. turn it on and it looks all distorted. changed the grapchis a bunch of times and does the same thing everytime. any idea??? this sucks!
     
  35. JoeyFUZZ911

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    NEVERMIND!!! i fixed it. Saw the same problem on the Alienware M17x forums with Witcher 2 and I had to change the CCC settings to "application settings" for my AMD card. Woah! that was alittle scary. Game looks great! So far. Only played it to get the framerate and graphics going. Skipped all the cutscenes in the beginning and was trying to get the framerate above 30 fps with the war scene which looks amazing! Going to start over so i know whats going on.

    My settings are 1080p, ultra settings, no ubersambling, no AA. Runs 30-45fps in the beginning scenes with the war part. Guessing it probably goes up when everything slows down. Looks amazing though!
     
  36. TearTaker

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    Nice. Glad you like it, Joey. I forgot to mention my fps averages were from my OC. I always OC before I start Witcher so I can get the most from it. Just a suggestion if you want more from your card and smoother gameplay. :)
     
  37. JoeyFUZZ911

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    I dont know much about OCing and I dont have good luck with laptops so I'm just gonna keep it where its at cuz with my luck it will break on me or somethign will go wrong. Thanks for the input though.
     
  38. moviemarketing

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    it's pretty simple using the AMD GPU Clock Tool and you can start overclocking just slightly to make sure you find a range that is stable.

    If you overclock too high, there is no damage to your laptop, you just get a blackscreen freeze and the game crashes. Next time you know not to overclock that high.

    It makes a huge difference in your frame rate for certain games, definitely worth it IMO.
     
  39. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    You will only know if you try :D .

    The m14x is very sweet, it's a BEAST. Imagine the full power on a 14' laptop. I mean I get 13k 3dmark06, 7k vantage without OC. I have a quad core cpu... An ssd, 8gb of ram. The machine has a Superb build quality and materials. It has the best sound on a laptop!. The only downside is the overheating :( . But hell yeah this is the laptop of my dreams :D.
     
  40. JoeyFUZZ911

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    Where can I find that AMD OC tool??
     
  41. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Sapphire TriXX is one of the best overclock utilities for ATI / AMD GPUs, and it supports the 6000 series. :D
     
  42. JoeyFUZZ911

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    Awesome thanks!

    I'm playing witcher 2 at 1080p, with everything on ultra including ssao and aa enabled getting around 30fps average but I want to boost it to atleast 40 - 50fps if possible.
     
  43. JoeyFUZZ911

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    How much do you over clock? core clock and memory clock?
     
  44. TearTaker

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    I started out with 750/1000, but now OC it to 830/1000. No issues so far. May OC a little more soon to 850/1000. I get an average of 50frames on those clocks, sometimes going above 60.
     
  45. JoeyFUZZ911

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    ok cuz I noticed a 10-15fps when i went 805/1000. I was doing 35-45 fps on average. I have SSAO and AA enabled so thats why mine is lower. Trying to see if i notice a difference when they are on or not. I can tell alittle difference with AA on but not sure about SSAO.

    BTW is there any precautions i should take? Like how long to not play Over Clocking and any warning signs that I may want to cut it back or turn OC off? Whats an avg temp and too high temp, so I know when to stop?

    Thanks again fellas!
     
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    Your system automatically shuts off if the temp gets too high. I don't believe it will ever allow you to damage it, shutdown will occur first.

    The GPU is a single die (silicon chip) just like a CPU, It has 4 temp sensors, fan speed sensor, overvoltage limits and firmware and software controlled shutdown features if anything gets out of spec.

    In other words the GPU will not let you actually 'fry it' without protecting itself first.
     
  47. JoeyFUZZ911

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    Ok good, that makes me feel better about doing it. Why dont the GPU companies boost the core and memory clocks if the cards can handle it and there are failsafes to protect it so it doesnt damage itself?

    Basically though, temp is what I need to keep an eye on?
     
  48. moviemarketing

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    I imagine the GPUs are usually underclocked because if consumers started experiencing blackscreens when playing games with their stock laptop, there would be a lot more RMAs.

    the temp should be what triggers shutdown if you are overclocked too high. ease up gradually and you will find the sweet spot that is stable for you.

    I've noticed in my case that different games can be overclocked to different points. Witcher 2 seems to allow slightly higher overclock in my case compared with, for example, FNV or Civ5.
     
  49. JoeyFUZZ911

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    I'm running Witcher 2 at 825/1000. Will I see a difference if I boost the Memory clock to 1150 and lower Core Clock to 800?
     
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    IIRC, it doesn't work OCing memory at or past 1100. I keep it at 1000.
     
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