http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/watchdog-group-praises-games-industry-criticizes-parents/1269202
Best games this season too! Oh well, good thing I'm over twice the legal age limit.
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lol there allrede rated mature, what a bunch of BAFFOOOONS!
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Most of those are awesome games, those teens sure are missing out.
I'm going to buy the whole list for my 15 year old brother -
i remember when i was 17 and they woudlnt sell me M rated games.
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lol! waaat, did you burn the store down?
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Man, when i was 17 i was out partying my _dik in the dirt...
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better to play these than have your kid surfing
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Some of them are really not suitable for some unmature kids, and should only be sold to adults. I would never let my kids play the GTA series, Bioshock or Fallout 3 before they are 14-15.
But of course the main problem is with people who can't differentiate between the game and the real world and start shooting people because it was cool in the game. Mental instability is however not connected to age, so this rating system is pretty useless. -
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You wouldn't let your future kids watch some brutal action flick at the age of 8, do you? -
whats the point of this article? all the games are rated M any way.
are they complaining that some parents are retarded? -
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Baah, these people need to wake up and smell the coffee. My dad is the only one who would even know how to access the internet without help, so theresno chance he's gunna find that article! Plus he doesn't really care what I play/watch. Most teenagers who are interested in playing these games are more than mature enough.
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http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/0001_gay-600x412.jpg
Has a "bad word" in it so may be considered NWS. -
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yeah i guess you can say i have a youthful appearance when im clean shaven.
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I grew up, not that long ago (still growing up) playing GTA Vice City at 10. I would watch whatever I wanted, all you have to do is get kids to understand that it is fictional, something you don't do in real life. My parents are both 50+ so there is none of the age biasing going on here.
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It is important to note that the whole point of the article is that the games are properly rated, and the game industry has done everything it can to keep parents warned about content.
Parents should be filtering and enforcing their children's intake of the world and not other groups.
As a (now-distant) future parent,
I reserve the right to determine what my future children will see and what they will not.
The simple truth is that I know a 9-year-old who is more than capable of playing games like fallout 3. She is more than mature enough to understand the difference between a game world and the real world.
She will not have nightmares, her behavior will not change in the real world, and her beliefs about violence in any instance where i would hurt someone real are NOT going to change. She properly channels her frustration into the game world where it is not going to harm anyone and has fun with it.
Her mother knows this and thus allows her to watch most R-rated movies and play M-rated games.
I know a few 17+ "adults" who simply should not play fallout3... they're quite frankly not mature enough to handle the things above. They cannot separate the real world and the game world properly and will mimic game actions by real action.
Sadly enough it is these adults (the games aren't really the problem) who all-too-often bring very real "too-graphic-for-anyone" real-life blood and gore into children's laps...
Nevermind Fallout3 or GTA-22, your kids are seeing real bodies and real people being beaten, shot, and strung-out on various chemicals.
Its time for the adults to stop living in a fantasy world where worrying about game ratings is actually helping.
I saw a lot more REAL gore and "just-so-wrong" things before I was 13 than games like Fallout3 could ever show me... and my parents were responsible, loving, and not screwed up. (our white-collar neighbors were really screwed up) -
@KernalPanic - I don't think it's always about maturity, I think it's also about impressionability of your psyche. It's hard to argue that a 18 year old is just as impressionable as an 9 year old, regardless of maturity. It's not that she can't differentiate the difference between real life and a video game and therefore violence in a game will lead to violence in real life (this is the common argument against video game violence). However, if you were raised watching fictional movies realistically portraying murder from an early age, you would be desensitized to it when you saw the real thing. I think it's important for a person to be exposed to the real horrors of the world before they are given games/movies/etc that portray them in a lighter sense and often without consequences. Of course they aren't going to think that murder (or abuse, or whatever) is morally okay or without consequences as a result, but they may be more apathetic towards it in the end if their first impressions of these acts are taken in such light.
I'm not for game censorship, but I am for good parenting. Violence is really not appropriate for anyone (and I play lots of these games... it's not that)... I just think it's important that a person is more developed before playing these games. Ratings are kind of like a blanket, 18 is the latest age of someone to be able to handle a game perhaps, and it's not the job of the game industry or the store to decide if this specific person is mature enough. But again, I think there is probably a minimum age as well.. I wouldn't want a thirteen year old playing Fallout 3 regardless of their maturity. -
Man my childhood was full of violent games, and i'm ok.
6ish it was Wolfenstein 3d
8-11 it was the doom series
Teens was Diablo series,Halflife, every shooter you can imagine
Now 24, nothing has changed, haven't killed or robbed or ever been in jail. I've been in one physical altercation and it was self defense. So I think it is more of a personality thing IMO. No horrid nightmares game related, actually I rarely have them at all!
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Yeah I'm not arguing that you will think those crimes are okay or commit them, I am saying people raised on violence are less likely to be affected by real life violence. But hey, maybe it's good to be desensitized.
I played Tiberian Sun and Quake 2 when I was like 10 and I turned out okay... I'm not saying games are nearly as bad as lots of "activists" do. But I am saying that violence, even artificial violence, can have a huge impact on a young mind... even if it's been made clear to them that it's not real. -
I and my brother have been playing violent games since childhood. My younger brother played Wolfenstein 3D and Doom when he was in kindergarten and 1st grade. (It sounds really weird saying that!)
We're both fine, never been violent, never been in a fight. We're lucky to have such loving and caring parents who always gave us love and attention.
You'll have kids raised in a bad environment become more violent and aggressive and never have played a videogame in their life vs. kids who have played these games since they could hold a controller or mouse and have no problems whatsoever. -
Having watched flagged-as violent, bloody, horrorific and gorey movies since I can remember without being pulled-away from the T.V or anything, and having played Doom and Wolfenstein since I was 7 years old in a summer computer school, I guess that maturity has a lot of influence on whether parents should let their children take on violent videogames, I met the Resident Evil series when I was 12, my mom has never really worried about what kind of stuff I watch / play, in fact, when I was playing Resident Evil 4's The Mercenaries minigame (Kill as many enemies as you can in a variable span of time that can be increased by picking up sand clocks, without being killed first), she kept cheering me and shouting "Blow their heads off" and such.
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I have been playing violent games since I was a wee lad too and Im perfectly normal... Just gets annoying when those voices keep whispering in my ear...
***** **** ******* *****!!!!
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I could add to that.
Right now, I'm 18, the first FPS game I played was Duke Nukem when I was probably no more than 6, when the first Resident evil game came out, I beat that in the first year, then when resident evil 2 came out, I beat that 8 times, I even beat it with tofu. But today I know the difference between what's good and bad, what to do, and not to do, and people say I'm a nice person and talented in many aspects. Atop that, I was invited to the Gate program in 4th, 5th, and 6th grades, all of which I denied them because I didn't want to change schools. Yea, all those violent games really screwed me up
And yet look at what other things like skateboarding does to kids. A simple wooden board with wheels, and it can cause kids to get into drug addictions, have serious attitudes towards thier parents, act out, get bad grades and so on. Not implying everyone who rides, just most teens in my area.
My point is that there are other reasons kids have these problems. Now if a child appears to be using a video game as some sort of social replacement, that's not good, but if the kid already interacts with other kids positively, then violent video games should be the least of a parent's concern. -
I think it's impossible to tell how playing violent video games will affect a young individual. There's so many other things that factor into what makes people who they are.
My parents wouldn't let me have any fighting games when i was younger even though it was ok that i played them at friends houses and watched wrestling on tv... i've been in a hundred fights(i showed them)
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LOL im 15 and i have all those games lol.
Look like these people are becoming more and more unoriginal and have to portray great games as abhorrent content to make everyone think Video Games are bad.
GO F**K yurself Yahoo -
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erm, my younger brother is 11, and he plays Dead Space like it was a comedy game
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Yes, I am agree with most of the people here.
Violent materials (Games, Movies, etc) could lead children to have better understanding or moral values. Which turn out to boost their maturity at younger age provided with the guidance of their parent.
In fact, limitation to them could eventually lead children to commit wrongful act in order to obtain what they want and at worst, misinterprate them at the same time.
I am not saying its correct to expose children to violent materials at very young age. However, parent should observe, expose it slowly (I personally prefer movie as bad guy always turn out to be dead in the end)
Think it another way round, if you suddenly send a boxed-up children alone to another country, its no doubt for them to experience culture shock, which could go very wrong.
And for people who read all these and think "Oh , hell yes yes yes yes." If I am your parent, I'll think twice before letting you play or watch any of the violent materials because you might be the next random people who grab a pistol and start shooting everyone in their faces.
My dear friend, think twice about it. -
My personal opinion is that the celebrities(all drug and violence too, in film and real life) are more dangerous for the youth than violent computer games. I believe this because the youth idolize them more and try to become a more like them which is distinct from computer games because I dont know of many people who idolize computer games...
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I really think it depends on the child, or person, or whoever.
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Good point, I idolized Ace Ventura, not Soap MacTavish.
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Bull. I have been playing M rated game since I was 8. Started way back with Mortal Kombat.. now I am 18, a good B Avg. College Student. I played GTA to POSTAL! yes Postal when I was 12-13. I believe the M doesn't stand for Maturity for Age, it is Maturity in General. If you have a kid, that is easily influenced etc. It is mostlikly not for him. I think there are plenty of Kids today that are Mature enough to play these games and plenty that are not. My parents were pretty computer Illeterate, so I had games such as these. But even still I turned out Great and so did many of my friends. These ratings don't mean anything to me.
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First - I'm 15 and buy all my own games. I buy them online so I never have any *age* issues.
My parents are really tight with me. They don't allow me to watch many R rated movies because of how graphic some of them can be.
But they know i'm mature, very mature. Most people think i'm 18 or so. They know that the games i play are very graphic at times. But they also know that i'm responsible enough to be able to handle that. I am not a violent kid cuz of the games i play. They know it's part of my entertainment cycle and respect that. They also know that games make me use my brain, it's not all just random killing like some games are and most people put them out to be.
Whereas my brother.... i'm actually worried about him. He plays COD1 extensively, is addicted. He plays whyen my rents aren't around so they don't know. Now he's just ordered COD4, he's 13. He's all uber excited...
I honestly don't know if he's mature enough or responsible enought o handle it. He doesn't get all his work done etc...
Hopefully my parents catch onto him again. He just got out of a 6 month computer grounded stage, but has NOT learned anything...
*worried*
But i am fine. I think it comes down to how mature and responsible teens are and how well their parents have brought them up.
Top ten games not recommended for teens - yahoo games
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