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    Toshiba's X305 Goes Quad Core Exteme

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Ripfire, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Ripfire

    Ripfire Minecraft Architect

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    Found this online today,

    $4199.00 USD
    Toshiba Qosmio X305-Q708
    Windows Vista® Ultimate (64-bit, SP1)
    Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9300 (2.53GHz)
    4GB PC3-8500 DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
    448GB: 128GB SSD + 320GB (7200rpm)
    Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GTS graphics with NVIDIA® SLI
    1440x900 WSXGA+

    http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?seg=HHO&poid=424965

    http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20081021005494&newsLang=en

    The price is insane (could get a np9262 with 2gb sli, for less), and its still ugly as hell. :D
     
  2. shinakuma9

    shinakuma9 Notebook Deity

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    nice price tag.
    thats almost as much as my first year tuition.
     
  3. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Yeah I'll take the np9262 with the desktop Q9650 and dual 9800GTX and pocket the difference. I also won't have to risk getting my lunch money stolen for carrying around that bright monstrosity.
     
  4. lewdvig

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    waste - get the $1999 version with SLI 9800m GTS
     
  5. I♥RAM

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    Lol @ the 1980s design trying to cover up for the fat parts. With that much money the NP9262 or the Precision M6400 is looking good to me...
     
  6. brainer

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    Toshiba is going way too hardcore, i mean they can do high end machines, but they shouldnt turn into Alienware o_0
     
  7. Jedi007

    Jedi007 Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow what a waste of processor considering how to the graphics card is :/
     
  8. brainer

    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    whats wrong with the Graphics card ? :D its still very capable, specially its SLI there..
     
  9. icon007

    icon007 Notebook Evangelist

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    still only has 1400 resolution. you would think they would have bump it up
     
  10. icon007

    icon007 Notebook Evangelist

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    compare


    Qosmio X305-Q708
    Now : $4,199.99



    Qosmio X305-Q706
    Now : $1,999.99

    Operating System **

    * Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate (32-bit)
    * Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate (64-bit, SP1)



    Operating System **

    * Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (SP1, 32-bit)
    * Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (SP1, 64-bit)

    Processor Type *
    Core™ 2 Extreme



    Processor Type *
    Core™2 Duo

    Processor Number *
    QX9300



    Processor Number *
    P8400

    Processor Speed *
    2.53GHz



    Processor Speed *
    2.26GHz

    Front Side Bus *
    1066MHz



    Front Side Bus *
    1066MHz

    Memory Size *
    4096MB



    Memory Size *
    4096MB

    Memory Speed
    PC3-8500 DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM



    Memory Speed
    PC3-8500 DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM

    Display Size *
    17.0" widescreen



    Display Size *
    17.0" widescreen

    Display Type *
    WSXGA+ with TruBrite® Technology



    Display Type *
    WSXGA+ with TruBrite® Technology

    Display Resolution *
    1440x900



    Display Resolution *
    1440x900

    Graphics Engine *
    Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GTS graphics with NVIDIA® SLI® Technology



    Graphics Engine *
    Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GTS graphics with NVIDIA® SLI® Technology

    Graphics Memory *
    512MBx2 GDDR3 discrete graphics memory plus up to 1663MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology



    Graphics Memory *
    512MBx2 GDDR3 discrete graphics memory plus up to 1663MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA® TurboCache™ technology

    Hard Drive Size *
    128GB Solid State Hard Drive (SSD)



    Hard Drive Size *
    320GB

    Hard Drive Speed
    N/A



    Hard Drive Speed
    7200rpm

    Secondary Hard Drive Size *
    320GB 2nd HDD



    Secondary Hard Drive Size *
    No Secondary Hard Drive Installed

    Secondary Hard Drive Speed
    7200rpm



    Secondary Hard Drive Speed
    N/A

    Optical Drives *
    DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive supporting up to 11 formats



    Optical Drives *
    DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive supporting up to 11 formats

    Wireless LAN * ♣
    Atheros® Wireless-LAN (802.11b/g/n)



    Wireless LAN * ♣
    Atheros® Wireless-LAN (802.11b/g/n)

    Bluetooth *
    Bluetooth® V2.1 + EDR



    Bluetooth *
    Bluetooth® V2.1 + EDR

    Webcam
    Webcam and microphone built into LCD bezel



    Webcam
    Webcam and microphone built into LCD bezel
     
  11. icon007

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    cpu and solid state with a regular harddrive
     
  12. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    never mind the quad cores, look at the screen!!!
    1440*900 for sli 9800m gts!!!
    man you have to carry around a 24'' monitor to game properly.
     
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    well true, 1440x900 sounds unfair for a quadie and Sli 9800GTS, like 2 cores are gonna remain unused.. since i'm a SLI user, SLI is better with higher Resolution (i regret not getting 1900x1200)
     
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    you can get the 1440/900 on the dual core as well
     
  16. Kevin

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    WSXGA+ is 1680x1050, so which is the typo? Either it's supposed to say WXGA+ (1440x900), or it's really a 1680x1050 screen.
     
  17. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I'd assume WSXGA+ 1680x1050.

    For $4,200, I'd get an Alienware m17x, Sager NP9262/Clevo D901C, or OCZ whitebook.
     
  18. lewdvig

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    Framerate is king. 1900*1200 is over rated.
     
  19. jacob808

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    Oh watch out Sager, Clevo, Alienware, someones gonna start taking over the notebook gaming market. This is where the battle is Gateway knows it and is trying to stop Toshiba's momentum.
     
  20. Kevin

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    Toshiba is killing it's own momentum with that butt fugly color scheme.
     
  21. checkmait

    checkmait Notebook Consultant

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    They're turning into Failware if you ask me
     
  22. adyingwren

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    The only way I can see this succeed is if they dramatically cut prices and become a 'value' high-end laptop manufacturer.

    And for goodness sakes, rebalance and redesign those laptops. Throw in a good T9300 and a proper screen with 9800m GT SLI. The design is subjective (I honestly don't mind it) but the build quality is AWFUL.
     
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    i can imagine someone trying to resell that $4200 laptop after 2 months of use...that would be one big haircut
     
  24. dtwn

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    You've had experience with it?

    Why the T9300 instead of a Montevina chip?
     
  25. HTWingNut

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    Agreed. And being a Gateway 7811FX owner (like me now) don't you kinda wish they only went with a 1680x1050 res instead?
     
  26. jacob808

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    Well in my book this is competition to the Alienware area51 m17x since that cost 2000 bucks extra for a more stiff build which just adds more weight, and I don't think it would even outperform the Toshiba x305 by any margin.

    Toshiba knows how to balance quality components to give the consumers a high end bargain and still compete with the specialty manufacturers without cutting to much corners and have a lot of flaws and defects because it's too cheap (i.e. p7811fx).

    Also the fancy look is quality, but overkill, still nice though. And they did it because of the reviews of how nice their first gaming series the x205 looks and wanted to go build on that, but I guess with all the complaints now I would think their next gaming series will probably be a little more humble looking. Hopefully as elegant as the x205.
     
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    ok, that whole thing has typo errors all through it.
    in the first paragraph it says they are 9800m gtx cards. gtx had 1 gig gddr3 mem. and below they say dual 9800m gts.
    wsxga is 1680x1050 but right under it it says 1440x900= wxga+
    says dual 7200 rpm drives for 400 gigs of space. and at the bottom it says 1x320 plus a 128 gig solid state drive...

    sounds like someone mixed the specs of two different computers...wonder which one is which.
     
  28. E-wrecked

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    I think it's a sweet rig.. you do get the SSD 128GB with it.. the screen res is still a joke, and they don't list the HDMI-out, Im sure they wouldn't have taken that away from the original x305-q701. Then again, the q705 lost HDMI.. Anyhow, Pros: GTS SLI(overclock better than GT/GTX), SSD, Good sound system, lots of room for cooling internally, QX9300 w/180watt power supply. Cons: Screen res sucks, keys are too glossy, no Blu-ray(suprised they dont have any HDDVD's layin around to toss in it), no HDMI(I dont think), very pricey considering there's comparable systems for $1000 less. However, I did have the q701 when it was released..and build quality is good with these things. Eh, I don't think we'll see this one at Best Buy ;)
     
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    just one thing E-Wrecked, with a Quadcore inside, i dont think you can OC those cards really.
     
  30. jacob808

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    E-wrecked you sold me on the x305 q701 and I was hoping you would stick with it and give us owners tips and tricks for it. Not too much guys are tweaking and doing research on it and posting maybe except for Dude55 and I'm hoping he'll discover ways to open this thing up, maybe someone will even get to upgrade the gpu and post the results.

    Well although I can't benefit from your experiments anymore I wanted to know how the 177.79 drivers worked for you when you had the x305. Were you able to game on battery without it downclocking? Oh and I tried disabling powermizer throught the registry but no perflevelsrc.
     
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    that option could be hard coded now in the bios.. like the 7811fx. (speculation of course)

    they already know what can happen if you start gaming on battery. the thing will just shut completely off in the middle of the game. and you would have to plug it back in to get it to come back on. i had to do that with the 6860/6831 fx model gateways.
     
  32. jacob808

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    With the nvidia gpu drivers from Toshiba there's no problem "downclocking" and I can game with the same performance and framerates I would get plugged in. Which is liberating cause I can go down the block and game at the park. The only prob is using unofficial drivers that ain't released by Toshiba.
     
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    lucky you!!

    what about:
    powermizerenable
    powermizerlevel
    powermizerlevelac
     
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    hmm not sure but even if I did I wouldn't know what to change.
     
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    good info john.. :)

    jacob, that thread I created about OC'ing it and such.. those were the optimal drivers that I had tried at that point. I went through many drivers..and settled on those. Since then, there's probably better stuff out. And as a matter of fact, I found a set of Xfastest drivers for the 7811FX and 9800m GTS that *nothing* has been able to touch.
    Xfastet's 177.85 Here
    It has been a hot minute since I've reviewed anything in the x305 thread.. but I bet ya these drivers will outperform whatever you're using now. Just clean the current drivers, and then run the setup.exe that is extracted by the Xfastest download. No modded inf needed. Lemme know how it goes. And, if I find some free time I may revisit the BIOS OC as well.

    Oh, and the toshiba drivers had powermizer..most modded drivers will not.
     
  37. jacob808

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    I did try to manually tweak the settings but couldn't find perflevelsrc in the registry and I don't really trust the program since I don't know what it changes and some people says it doesn't work or had complications using it.

    I want to try it but afraid it'll downclock running on just battery hopefully another x305 q701 user tries it then posts the results.
     
  38. E-wrecked

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    if it does, revert to the previous driver.. but, there is no powermizer in the 177.85.
     
  39. jacob808

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    Alright so I wanted to try xfastest since you put it there but I didn't trust the asian site so I tried Dox's 178.24 Vista64 and it gave me 200 pts more in 3dm6 and IT DOESN'T DOWNCLOCK. :eek: :D I think when I tried 178.13 I uninstalled>rebooted in safe mode> ran driver sweeper> rebooted then installed, and I got the dreaded downclock even when rolling back to previous version. So this time I just uninstalled rebooted DIDN'T run driversweeper and then installed Dox's 178.24 and it made me smile. I guess when I run driver sweeper it removes an important registry setting that keeps the x305 from downclocking. Well that's my guess. But for now this is a keeper.
     
  40. chipmoney

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    Maybe the ugliest computer I've ever seen o_O
     
  41. E-wrecked

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    jacob, dox has good drivers.. but dont let xfastest's site scare you. I've converted many folks to Xfastest and they swear by it. :) Would prolly give ya another 100 pt bump.. AND its OC stable. :)
     
  42. jacob808

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    I'll download it to my desktop and give it a shot later right now I'll test dox's for awhile to see how stable it is.