UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

er is the ati radeon xpress a capable very very light gaming machine? Im kinda lookin forward to playing source again
if not ill go for hps 6000 brands with the 7400.

 

Go for a dedicated video card if you want to play games if at all possible, but the Radeon Xpress will be able to handle Source okay at middle settings and resolution.

 

Does anyone have any benchmarks on the x2300 yet? I know the A8jr is in stock some places and ati has finally released the specs, but I haven't seen any solid numbers yet.

 

Not yet, but you should be expecting them soon I believe.

One people start getting them, although I dont believe its going to be much more powerful than a current x1400/7400.

 

http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonx2300/specs.html

http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeonx1450/specs.html

Am i missing something, or do these appear to be the exact same pages???

 

The ATI x1450 wasn't in ur ranking. Where would it fall?

 

Right above the X1400, as I don't believe it offers any tangible performance increases over the X1400 just as the X1700 didn't offer anything over the X1600 generally speaking.
The X1450 is merely a die shrink (smaller manufacturing process) of the X1400. As a result, there is less heat and power consumption, but as far as performance goes, there isn't much, if anything.

Thanks for noticing that it was missing; I added it.

 

Bummer... thanx for the info.

 

Which is the better GPU?
ATI x1700 256 dedicated (512 Hypermemory)
Geforce Go 7600 256 dedicated (512 Turbocache)

What exactly is their difference in terms of gaming performance? And how big is the difference?

Would it matter performance wise if you bought either of the two?

I need an expert's opinion... Time is running out...

 

Double post? Check out Meaker's chart. I think the x1700 is a little stronger and is a newer card. Your sig says 6600, is that another laptop or did you mean 7700 in the thread too? Salamat

 

My sig says 7700, not 6600...

 

The X1700 is better. It has more shader units, and a higher clock speed. The gaming performance increase would be noticable.

 

I think X1700 will be slightly better. Because X1600 and Go 7600 are almost identical in performance ( Ultimate X1600 vs GF7600 thread!! REAL LIFE GAME BENCHES!!). Higher model number of X1700 leads me to believe that it should be better if not equal to X1600.

 

Thanks a lot.

 

This information could have been easily found in the GPU guide, which your thread has been merged with.

 

Hi

I'd like to know how card is better

GeForce GO 7400 512MB dedicated

or

GeForce GO 7600 256 discrete (128mb dedicated + 128mb discrete)

I cant find about the bus. Is 7600 128-bits for sure?

Thanks

 

The 7600 will be much faster than the 7400 and I don't think that the 7400 is available with 512mb dedicated.

 

The 7600GO will be faster even it is 64bits?
In another forum, someone told be that considering the 7400 have discrete memory it will have better performance than 7600GO with 128mb discrete + 128mb shared.

thanks

 

Which notebook exactly are you looking at? Are you sure the 7600 is only 64bit? Even if it is, it will still be faster than the 7400.

 

The 7600 will squash the 7400 :yes: :wink: :wink:

 

Me neither. Infact, I feel pretty sure that the 7400 never comes with 512 dedicated RAM. But if you really saw one, I would say the 512 dedicated RAM will not make any difference with 256 dedicated as far as the g0 7400 is concerned. From Edyn's post I figured he had not read the thread that Chaz made regarding GPUs. It will definitely alleviate your confusion buddy. I suggest you read it.

 

Thank you, i'll read!

 

Im comparing Pavillion DV8333CL vs DV8233CL

 

I'm pretty sure that both of those models are using the 7400.

 

i think the 7400 is 64 bit usually with 128 discrete and 128 shared. the 7600 is 128 bit usually with 256 discrete, sometimes 512 discrete or even 128mb discrete. Either way, neither card can utilize 512mb discrete vram so that doesnt matter. In terms of benches, the 256mb 7600 gets twice the 3dmarks of a 7400 256 (shared + discrete) so it will definately squash the 7400.

 

A Go 7600SE (64bit), will have performances between a Go 7400 and a Go 6600. I don't think there is any chance that a 7400 can be faster than a 7600, even if it has a 64bit bus.

 

yeah, the go 7600SE or whatever with 128mb ram, is not that good.
Normally a 7600 pwns a 7400, but a 7600SE... It's better than a 7400, yes BUT it's not that much better...

 

Ok.

No matter what, the 7600 will be better than a 7400.

Case closed.

 

We have the GPU guide for this sort of question; this thread has been merged with it.

 

These massive threads could use a search within thread feature!
When you look in ATI.com for drivers for XPMCE it shows drivers for X1300 and X1600(and loads of others) but no X1400 - which driver should I get,is any version of Catalyst going to do the job?

 

There is one, it's called "Search this Thread" and it's at the top of the page.

 

Read the ATI section of this guide. You can't go through ATI's site to download drivers because they won't install on your notebook.

 

I er.. totally missed that thanks!

 

Sorry for the newbie question, but I did a Wiki search and couldn't find an answer. I'm new to PC gaming and have noticed that most games list the desktop graphics cards in their requirements window.

What kind of graphics card is the ATI x1700 compared to in both Nvidia and ATI families? For example, I saw that the Guild Wars requirement lists a ATI Radeon 8500, but I have no idea what that is.

 

The Radeon 8500 is very old and outdated. An X1600/X1700 is about as fast as a desktop Radeon X1600.

 

I have a question...is the 7700 only better than the X1700 because of the extra VRAM, or would it still be better if it had only 256MB?

 

Whether either of those cards have 512MB of memory makes no performance difference because they don't have the power to make use of 512MB of dedicated memory.

The Go7700 is faster regardless.

 

Hey, i noticed you guys said you cant game with integrated cards... but i own the laptop in my sig with the 6150, and i run half life-2, unreal tournament, wow etc with no problems, they actually llook pretty good.. better than on my old vaio that had a 6200 go and a 1.73 ghz centrino.. what gives?

 

What gives is that the 6150 is one of the better integrated chips, as full DX9.0c support, and you have a nice fast processor and plenty of ram to back it up. Thus it will run many current generation games (though probably not demanding ones like FEAR or Oblivion except on the absolute lowest settings) decently on lower settings. I can manage to run the original Max Payne and many older 3D games on my GMA855, but that doesn't mean I like too. Most "gamers" prefer to be able to get 30+ fps on high settings at native resolution, which you just can't do with an integrated graphics solution.

 

What I posted was more of a generalized statement:

I'll take what you said into advisement and I may make a revision to that section later.

 

That might be a good idea, since with santa rosa you'll have the x3000, x1150m, and Go6150 all able to handle lower setting DX9.0c (and older) games with playable fps.

 

Where does the ATI Radeon 9700 rank?? Is it better than ATI X1700?

 

Sorry, but the 9700 is 2 generations behind the X1700. It's about 1/3 as powerful.

 

Hah! That's what I was expecting to here. Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry to be so naive about this. I have zero knowledge about the past technologies.

 

what is better:
-256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® x1400 HyperMemory™
-256MB NVIDA GeForce Go 7900GS

 

No competition, 7900GS By a distance.

 

It's like a frog vs a snake...

 

Hi

I am looking to buy a new dell laptop and I just dont know what grapics card to get. I love playing flight simulator x so I would be playing that a lot. Please could someone tell me out of these two graphics cards, which one would be better for playing flight simulator x : nvidia geforce go 7400 turbocche or an ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400

Thanks very much

Dom

 

Neither would be great, they'd have about the same performance. I'd say get the one with the most dedicated memory.

 

Chaz, would you consider adding a section explaining the pros/cons of SLI rigs. They do give the best gaming performance in 17" and 19" laptops.