UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

will there be a noticeable difference in performance between the two? i'd like to play games like rainbow six vegas/stalker but they both ran like utter crap at med settings on a X1600 (256mb). i'm thinking of getting a dell inspiron 17" with 7900GS. thanks.

 

Yes, there is a big difference between the two. The Go 7900 GS will perform much faster than the Mobility X1600, but it can only be found in larger 17" notebooks. You should be able to play the game at higher settings, and also at a better resolution.

 

well yes theres a comparable difference between the two as zero has already posted if your going for a 17" te 7900gs would serve you well
wheres as the X1600 is found in laptops like the hp dv9000t even though it is capable of good frame rates at medium to high settings it is unable to match the performance level cards
for more info i suggest that you check out the graphic card guide

 

In terms of benchmarks the 7900GS is twice as powerful as the X1600. That'll translate into maybe, say, 15 more FPS in a game with more graphics maxed out and some AA on.

Check this thread to answer more of your questions:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568

 

Hello

Will Oblivion run in ful detail on this laptop ??
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-DELL-INSPIR...yZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

DanieL

 

Yes, it will handle Oblivion at mid to max settings. You won't be able to crank AA up to max, and you won't be able to set "grass view" to maximum distance (if you turn everything up, the 8800GTX only gets 10 FPS!!! - the game is horribly demanding), but nobody needs max grass or max AA.

 

Yes, it should run very well. I'm not sure what you mean by full detail, it's possible that you won't be able to crank up AA quite all the way on a 7900GS, though I've never played oblivion on one, so I'm not sure. However, in general, that is one of the best gaming laptops available, especially if you overclock the graphics card.

 

Thanks

will this laptop be better if i add RAM to it ? the procesor is weaker but the grapgic is better

http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Satelli...QQihZ018QQcategoryZ140085QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

danieL

 

The problem with that laptop is, even if you add ram, it still has a weaker processor. Probably 15-25 percent weaker, more in some instances. It might not affect gaming that much, but it will affect it some. Also, if you overclock the dell's graphics card, it will perform pretty much the same as the toshiba's.

 

The bottleneck for games is the GPU.
The 2GB Ram will give a much better boost.
Please go to the 3DMark score table in my signature and see the performance tips for more info.

 

what about this one ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-XPS-M170-L...yZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Track=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us

What abotu this one ?

will it be abel to run oblivion in full detail ?

if i buy more RAM is it possibel to put it in the computer not opening it ? ( if i open ill luse the waranty or will i not ? )

What about this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-XPS-M170-L...yZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=190103310208&rd=1&rd=1

DanieL

What about this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-XPS-M170-L...yZ140080QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=190103310208&rd=1&rd=1

DanieL

 

Both of them have 7800GTX which is powerful (though the E1705's is underclocked,so it is weaker).
The big problem with 7800GTX is it's power consumption.(see my signature for more info).The battery life will not be good on such a thing, and considering that you are ready to carry these heavy laptops around they might not be good for you.
Putting those aside.That XPS is extremely powerful and handles Oblivion very well.The E1705 is very good too.
Just make sure.They are worth the money (a E1705 with a 7900GS CPU is a very cost effective choice - for more info see my signature).
And one last thing.Find the guide on eBay scams and make sure these are for real.

 

The best way to tell if a deal is real is to look at the customer satisfaction of the seller. If it's a powerseller, 100+ positive transactions, 95%+ positive feedback, you're all set to go.

 

is there a difference betwen go 7900 and 7900gs ??

 

Same thing, if you're talking about the laptop 7900. There are only two laptop 7900's - the Go 7900GS and the Go 7900GTX. The Go 7950GTX is a more powerful version of the 7900GTX.

For desktops, the 7900 lineup comes in 7900GS, 7900GT. It also comes in the more powerful 7950GT and 7950GX2.

 

Someone might want to change the title - maybe remove the 'Updated 2/20' and replace it with 'Regularly Updated' or something, unless the author changes it himself each time. This was last updated 4/12 according to the bottom of post #1

Cat

 

You don't need to change the title for a slight revision. 2/20 was a major change when he added new info, I believe.

 

My go7600 (124mb, 350/450) is only giving me 3dMark05 score of 1900 and 3dMark06 score of 1100 ... can't figure out why... any ideas?

 

Do you have the latest drivers? Also, how is it doing in games, since 3dmarks don't mean much.

 

Thanks for the suggestion Cat; I changed the title and added "Most GPU Qs answered" on the end. The whole purpose of this thread is to cut down on the number of repetitive and simple graphics card and related questions we have in the forums

The Go7900 is a series of cards; as mentioned, there are different models in the series:
-Go7900GS
-Go7900GTX
-Go7950GTX

Make sure you are plugged in when running those tests; try updating your drivers:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=64910

 

That won't work much unless you add :
"Warning : If you don't read this before you ask I will ban you "\
BTW, you are back Chaz, How was the vacation (bet you still had to do tech support over there too - it just can't be helped)

 

PENTIUM M (CENTRINO) 2.0 GHZ WITH WINDOWS XP HOME

NVIDIA GeForce Go 6800 Ultra 256MB

80 GIG SATA HARD DISK DRIVE

DVD +/- RW-DL DRIVE

17" HIGH BRITE DISPLAY WITH TRUE LIFE

56.6 FAX MODEM 10 / 100 ETHERNET 802.11G WIRELESS

2GB DDR2 MEMORY

667Mhz FSB

will Oblivion work on this laptop ??

 

Yes, it will be able to play it.

 

no wonder i didnt see chaz around much
so chaz welcome back hope u had a great vacation

 

Are there dedicated 512 MB notebook graphics cards that support OpenGL® and Direct3D® within Windows Vista Ultimate and perform well during rendering 3d graphics? What are they? Where did you find the list?

 

Thanks guys; it was amazing; I spent more than I wanted to but it was worth it.

 

Off the top of my head, probably something like the 7900GS, 7800GTX, or 7950GTX, possibly X1800 and X1900 cards as well are your best bet for a 512MB card.

A list? Check our graphics forums for a detailed list. (I moved this post there)

 

You can check the first page of this thread for a list of GPUs; the Go7600 and up are generally available with 512MB with exceptions. It does not make a difference (256MB vs. 512MB) unless you go to the Go7800 - X1800 cards.

Maybe we could help you find a notebook if you completed the FAQ in the What Should I Buy forum.

 

How crucial is the GPU in determining performance with applications like Photoshop CS, AutoCAD and 3D Max? For using those programs semi-professionally (via Boot Camp or Parallels, no gaming), is the difference between a 15" MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo w/ X1600 128MB and the configuration that has 256MB VRAM worth the extra premium? Thanks a lot.
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Photoshop makes no use of a powerful GPU; AutoCAD may (I don't use it), but I'd guess that even an X1400 would be fine for it. What kind of work are you going to be doing in 3DSMax? If you could post the system requirements for that program here it would be great.

Unless you are going to be gaming then don't pay for the extra 128MB of RAM on the X1600.

 

I was looking at the nvidia website:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_7900_7600_faq.html

look at the second question.

It looks like the Geforce go 7600gt is better than 7600gs, but in your guide it says that the gs is high end while gt is in the performance range. am i missing anything?

 

Thank you, that was helpful. I guess my 3DS tasks alone won't justify for the extra cost as they'll mostly be static models with some ray trace, little would involve animation. I think that nails it, that is, if I do decide to venture into Mac.
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Fujitsu C-2010, P4 1.6GHz, 256MB RAM, 30GB 4200RPM HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon M6 16MB.. beat that!

 

Actually I have the Go7 900GS in the high-end list; the Go7600GT is definitely slower than that.

Keep in mind that those are desktop video cards on Nvidia's website.

 

Trump, the numbers determine the majority of the information. In Nvidia's lineup, the first number indicates the architecture of the graphics card. If you see a "7" as the first number, that indicates that it's one of the more recent offerings, called the "Geforce 7 Series." There is currently an older Geforce 6 series and a newer Geforce 8 series (Geforce 8 currently for desktops only).

The number after the series number gives you a relative rating of the card. It's ranked usually from 1 to 9, 1 being the lowest, 9 being the highest. There's a Geforce 6100, which is ultra-low end (almost integrated graphics), then there's a midrange Geforce 7400, then there's the high end Geforce 7900.

The third number will give you a possible refresh of the card. For instance, if Nvidia wanted to release a new version of an old card, they'd change the "0" to a "5" maybe. Then you'd get the Geforce 6150 (which is an update of the Geforce 6100) or the Geforce 7950GTX (which is an update of the 7900GTX).

The letters that follow the numbers are slightly more complex. Here's a general breakdown of what Nvidia uses, although Nvidia changes around their naming schemes a lot, so this will change with each series. I'll give you some examples from the desktop world (the naming scheme also changes for laptops, some of which don't even use the letters):

- GS - lower-end version of the 7X00 series. In example, take the 7900GS. Definitely not a weak card, since it does have the "9" there, which indicates the most powerful graphics card possible in the series, but it's not the highest end of the 7900 family. Examples: 7900GS, 7600GS, 7300GS

- GT - mid-tier version. Usually unlocks some features of the GS that aren't there, such as extra pixel pipelines or shaders to give slightly more "umph" to the card. Sometimes it's the highest of its class, other times it's not (some series have the GTX, which will be explained below). Examples: 7600GT, 7300GT, 7950GT.

- GTS - higher-end version. Just a step down from the GTX family. The "GTS" name has been used in the past, but it's now being used on Nvidia's new Geforce 8 series, with the 8600GTS, 8800GTS, and upcoming 8900GTS.

- GTX - highest end possible. Examples: 8800GTX, 7800GTX, 7950GTX (for laptops)

Nvidia sometimes also puts "LE" after sometime, which just means it's for OEMs and an all around low-powered graphics card.

Remember some laptop cards don't even use the letters after - the Geforce Go 7700 or Geforce Go 7400 don't have any letters after them, because they are unique cards in the series. There are no other cards in the 7700 or 7400 family.

 

And, There is NU too that is almost equal to LE (In case of 6800 with a bit of luck you could turn them into a 6800GT).And there is also GX2 which means two GTX GPU's on a single card.And there is also GTO and XT.(which I don't know much about them).
For more info you can see the extensive list here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_NVIDIA_Graphics_Processing_Units

 

Is the LCD on your notebook OK though? Perhaps it's an issue with your external notebook as opposed to the GPU. As mentioned...it is not upgradeable. Also...have you had a chance to test the external LCD on another system?

 

i thought LCD's don't have adjustable hertz.

 

They do, but the one or two times I tried to do it--it didn't really work.

 

As per title really. I'm not a hard core gamer and don't touch FPS or RTS games, but do like turn-based strategy and RPG's and play Civ IV, Guildwars, FM2007, Baldur's Gate, NWN - so which would be better for me?

Cheers

 

Out of the two, the Mobility X2300 should be the faster card. Its based on the Mobility X1400/X1450, and both those cards are faster than the Go 7300. The games you have mentioned don't seem to be really difficult to play for a graphics card, and they should play fine on the Mobility X2300.

 

*points at the 3DMark table in his siggy*

 

mujtaba,

how come the 3dmark05 scores for the x1300 are that high?

its approaching a 128mb x1600 macbook underclocked level.


and how is it possible for me to have had a better dell 1505, with a c2d 2ghz, 2 gb 533mhz, higher OC at 580/450 to score almost 300 lower then in your chart?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2257665

 

OH MY GOD!
You're right.I fixed it

 

I have a question about the nvidia go 6150 integrated card, there is a laptop i'm looking at that says it has a "GeForce Go 6150 w/ 559mb of shared vram". is this any different than any other 6150 card? or is it better?

 

I think it's the same 6150

 

It is the same thing.

 

As posted, it's the same thing. The Go6150 can share different amounts of system memory, but it doesn't matter one way or another because that card can't make use of much memory anyway.

Rule of thumb: amount of video memory does not determine the performance of the card.

 

but lack of vram crippled my go 7600

 

How much did it have?

 

128mbs instead of 256mbs