UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

1 x 8800m GTX > 2 x 8700m GT

 

If you're looking for performance, then the 8800m GTX smokes the 8700m badly.

 

oh wow didnt realize it was that big a difference
however money is a problem for me so do you think i could run like
Flight sim x on it?

 

You can run any game currently out on an 8700M GT, you'd just need to play them on lower settings, which takes away a lot overall from the game. The 8800M GTX will give the laptop a longer life span and is 2-2.5 times faster than the 8700M GT.

 

For FSX it depends on your setting, I am having a hard time to play it under WUXGA with max settings. 15fps

 

8800GTX>sli 8700GT

 

if money is a problem u should get a sager or a gateway FX series laptop or something my 0.2 cent better then a 8700m gt if u cant afford 8800m gtx on the m15x

 

^^^go for gateway p-6860fx if money is your concern

 

just to make sure, if i can play cod4 a little above medium and ut3 almost maxed nicely, should i waste anytime downloading AoC on my laptop since i will play alot on campus? i hear the x3100 cant run it well

 

I'm looking for a new notebook in the $1000 price range, and my main concern is which graphics card to look for, with these three being what I feel are the main choices. According to the chart in the 'Mobile Graphics Card Info' thread, the 3650 performs slightly above the 8600GT DDR3, but not really by a discernible amount. Here's a link to that thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=39568

Now, the 2600XT has thrown a monkey wrench into all of my planning. According to the chart linked above, the 2600 DDR3 performs just below the other 2 cards. However, I don't believe that they're talking about the XT in that thread. According to other sources (one here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html ), the 2600XT outperforms both of them by a healthy margin. While the lists aren't identical when it comes to the cards that both have included, they're pretty close, so I don't think it's too far off with the 2600XT's performance. However, finding people that actually own an XT has turned out to be pretty hard. It's in a Lenovo Ideapad Y710 that I'm looking at ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146447).

Can anyone here personally vouch for a 2600XT/Y710 performance to justify picking it over an 8600GT/3650?

 

i have the 3650 and it so far plays ut3 high well, cod4 on medium-high, cs"source maxed at 1680x1050 with fluid frames. I would go either 2600 or 3650

 

2600 and 8600gt are about equals.

 

Don't be confused: the author is talking about 2600 XT.

It's probably about a notch above those two cards. However, it's only been available in that IdeaPad and the HP HDX, so it'll be difficult to find owners.

 

i recently reviewed an acer laptop with the geforce 9650 in. (if anybody is interested), and it is actually quite a decent card, cant decide whether its better than my SLi 8700's yet, but it performed amazing on COD 4, 1920 x 1200 on full high and 4x AA. for the price, i thought it was amazing. but it was let down on some games. played crysis on 1280 x 800 on high

but yeh u get the point.

thought someone might want to know. this card in SLI would be amazing, i cant wait to see what the 9 series is capable of, pity im gonna have to wait a while before a 9 series on laptop bests my 8800's.

 

The 2600XT is about equivilant to the 8700M GT.

 

And to add Acer Aspire 5720G ( some models have it) .

 

actually some HP 8510W has it and many Fujitsu-Siemens have it.

I saw them in Geramn sites and they were clearly better than the 8600GT, not just a notch but a lot better.

Edit: I forgot the Acer and ASUS F3SC something.

 

this might help u out. im getting this for my dad.

http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529667912.php

 

the XT is equal to an 8700m GT so there is no reason to get either of those other cards as this one is a notch better

 

That is 2400XT, I made the same mistake a couple days ago. Compare to 8400m GT.

I think the 8700m GT outperforms 2600XT, more than just a little.

 

What other laptops besides the Gateway P-6831FX, P-171XL FX, has or will soon have the NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS?

 

none in that price range...the HP HDX has the 8800m GTS but it closes in on $2500 with it.

 

with $500 coupon you can cut it down to $2000, I don't think many people want to carry a mobile desktop however.

 

yes i was gunna say, the 6860 is quite large allready, not too hefty though, but the HDX would be disgustingly big

 

Is the P-6831FX heavy? Are you in college by any chance? Could you see yourself carrying it around a lot?

 

I think the technology size/performance won't be there for me by Sept. I'll be stuck with an 8600M GT ...

 

6831 is just like all other 17" in terms of size and weight, go to your gym and pick up something 10lbs worth to see if you can live with it.
I use this when I walking around tho:

 

Wth is that little toy ?

 

I have noticed that when configuring with the dv9700t on hp.com, you can get the 512 mb of 8600M GS, but on dell, you can get the inspiron 1720 configured with a max of 256 8600M GT.

Which one would you go with? It is kind of holding up my decision to go with Dell or HP. I have gone with Dell my whole life, but this time around, HP seems to have better/cheaper upgrading options.

 

The 8600M GT will outclass the GS, even though the GS has more RAM.

 

Does this have mostly an impact on games that require a top-rated graphics card?

 

More memory in the graphics card is only needed IF the game/app requires it. For me I can see no difference between my notebook, having 512MB, and a friends notebook having 256MB whilst gaming with games such as C&C3, WiC, Supreme Commander and Warhammer. We both have 8600mGT's, Both DDR2 and both running standard clocks. Even 3dMark06 doesn't score any higher due to the extra graphics memory. 256MB is good enough unless you are going to render some huge 3D model.

 

How much better is the 8600M GT than the 8600M GS, with the memory being equal. Will you be able to play the same games with the 8600M GS, maybe with lower settings, just as smoothly?

 

Theoretically it should be twice as powerful. It has double the number of stream processors. However all things are not equal when it comes to GPU perfromance. Have a look here for a good comparison.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=125246
That should show you the difference nicely.

 

Forgive me if this has been mentioned before. It's pretty old news, but a through search failed to show any results on this being posted here before.

Anyway, I can't really find much details on this model, but it's apparently a 13.3" model which comes equipped with a 8600M GT. The sad, sad part is how it comes with a L7500 processor which has a measly clock speed of 1.6GHz. Personally I'd never buy anything with a super graphics card and a crippled motherboard. Still it is something worth mentioning anyway.

http://joybookholic.blogspot.com/2008/05/benq-joybook-x31.html

 

Yes, that's a wierd combination of specs. The L series CPU is probably used to keep the overall (CPU+GPU) thermal design within an acceptable limit.

The alternative is the LG P300 with the 8600M GS GPU but a faster CPU.

John

 

Yea. I think the LG P300 is really sweet. I'd probably have got that if I didn't want a 8600M GT so badly.

 

i have hered that the new 9800m gtx is just a revamped 8800m gtx and will only be10% better that the 8800m gtx however i have also hered the fact the 9800m gtx has 1 gig memory as aposed to 512mb in the 8800m gtx i was wondering if this will help more if you hav a laptop that runs at a high resolution like 1920 x 1200 for gaming

 

It might but that's too early to tell unless it's really tested.

 

1 Gb of memory will be a marketting gimmick since 512MB is getting old, and they have to "keep upgrading" the technology.
512MB is more than enough.
Rumours slate the 9800M GTX to be ETA`ed 31/07.

 

While the 9800 may not be that much faster than the 8800, it'll produce less heat and (presumably) use less power due to the 65nm manufacturing process. So even though it might not be faster, a notebook with a 9800 may be significantly better to live with than the same notebook with a 8800.

 

my next laptop is gonna equid. with GT280

 

When is the release date of Nvidia GeForce 9xxxm series? When can we expect to see them with new notebooks?

 

this should be on the graphics thread

 

Please use full sentences when you post. I can barely understand what you're saying.

 

The GT200 series will be out in mid-June so give it a year or more to get them to reduce the thermal envelope enough that it can go in a desktop replacement.

 

Is this really true? To address 512MB of memory, you only need 29-bits. What do the remaining 99-bits out of the total 128-bits do?

Actually this is a better way of putting it: If a 128-bit bus allows up to 256MB of memory, 28-bits is used to address the memory. What is important about the remaining 100 bits?

I can only guess that if the GPU is performing with 32-bit data, two read port (2 x 32-bits, to grab two pieces of data and perform an operation) and a write port (1 x 32-bits, just one to write the result of the operation) is necessary so 96-bits of the remaining 100 is used, which still leaves us with 4-bits. Perhaps these 4-bits are proprietary control signals. I really dunno. I'm very interested to find out how exactly the memory bus interface is divided up.

 

Hey

What do you think of this:
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.203-4844.aspx

Nvidia® GeForce™ 8600M GS 256 VRAM up to 1024Mb Shared Graphics Memory

Its a great offer, and seems like a great graphics card, but its not dedicated. How will that affect performance compared to if it was dedicated or 8400M GS but with dedicated memory

Thanks in advance

 

It is a 256MB dedicated 8600M GS, like all others. Most, if not all recent cards can borrow system RAM on the go for when it's needed, which is why it mentions shared memory.

 

So VRAM is the same as dedicated memory