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The HD48xxx series are 256bit bus though >.>

Mid-ranges are categorized by their 128bit bus interface limitations. Yes, the HD4670 is going to be a montser, but I've yet to see a notebook with it in it and actual benchmarks so it's hard ot say exactly how much

 

No, only the 4850/70 are 256-bit. The new 4860/30 are 128-bit. The 4670 is better than the highest end 128-bit card from nVidia: 9700M GT. The Asus N81Vp has the 4650, which is just a slightly underclocked version.

 

I'm wondering if anyone has benchmarks for these 2 cards yet. I'm only interested in the 1GB -1GB cards.

I'm trying to find a notebook for 850-950. I just sent in my dv7t, because the video card was bad. I'm looking for anything more powerful then that one now.

 

I'd go for the 4650. I believe the notebook version is based on the 'ol 3850 with 320 stream processors. Shouldn't be too much better than the 9600GT but it should beat it anyways, but in a world where games didn't favor Nvidia more, the 4650 should wipe the floor with it actually. Still I'd go 4650, probably has better power management too.

 

1GB for a 9600M? how... pointless

i'd go for the ATi card.

 

I'm wondering if there are any real benchmarks out yet. I'd hate to order it and find out it performs worse then the 9600.

I tried searching youtube, but couldn't find anything other then desktop versions.

 

The GDDR3 version of the HD 4650 DESTROYS the 9600M GT, it even overtakes the 9700M GT. Sephiroth135 just bought one one, here is his review:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=358071

 

So you have to wait.

 

How did you force SM 2.0?

 

I'm impatient. I'm ordering or buying a new notebook as soon as HP gives me back my 922 dollars back

 

how much larger is the 4650 from the 4570?

 

What do you mean by larger? Physical size or what?

 

I've been hearing that the new HD4650-70 as well as the HD4830-60 will be the new kings of the 128bit GPU market. Now, apparently they`re going to literally blow the current GPus out of the water, so does anyone have any actual benchmarks or can say how much better they are compared to the current generation of mid-ranges like the 9600M GT or the HD3650?

 

Well, the 4860 actually meets or beats the 4850 performance in many ways so you can put that right up there at the top. I'd expect about 10k 3dmark06 scores from that card. It's 160 less SPs than the 4850 though. That should be more than enough for mid range notebook screen sizes anyways.

 

physical size yes. i am wondering what the chances are of having a 4650/70 put in a 13" laptop...

 

Hi all, what's the comparison between an Nvidia GeForce 6250 in an hp notebook at 2.2Ghz with 2Gb ram and the ATI Radeon HD 3200 in the hp notebook at 2.0Ghz with 4gb ram? Being replaced by warranty and I'm not sure I believe the guy on the phone. Lol Can someone give me any idea? Using mostly for work and World of Warcraft.

 

What specific processors? The Radeon 3200 should be more powerful than the GeForce 6250. Assuming the old laptop has a 2.2GHz AMD CPU and you're moving to a Core 2 Duo at 2.0Ghz, it's probably better too.

 

It's not the physical size that limits its use, heck theoretically you can fit a desktop GPU into a 13" notebook... the GPU is pretty small. But it produces a lot of heat and it's the size of the cooler needed that determines whether it can fit. If they can fit a 9600M GT into one, then it's possible to put a 46xx card in one. However, chances of finding such a notebook are very slim (There is only one laptop with a 9600M GT out there, the LG P310).

 

...and the cooler is part of the physical size, my point exactly.

 

Guys I come from Polen and I want to ask for help becouse we haven't got a lot of users with studio xps 16 and I must choose this model or m1530. tell me what about games.... captain or junk food... tell me this ati hd 3670 is more bad than gf 8600M Gt in games? I know that gta 4 on low details is well play on this geforce...

I must choose one of this.

m1530

studio xps 16


please help me.

thx.
is possible answer here or email meyek[at]o2.pl

 

Get the one with the 3670, better CPU, DDR3 and faster (but smaller) HDD. Also the 3670 is better than the 8600M GT and should run cooler

 

PLEASE go with the Studio XPS 16, because the m1530 and its 8600m gt has some heat problems. I recently got my xps m1530 fixed due to overheating. I think Dell learned their lesson and used ATI 3670 (in xps 16), which is actually slightly better than the 8600m gt and probably runs cooler. Good luck with the purchase.

 

Want to buy a new portable laptop. I am having trouble figuring out the difference between 9200gs and 9300gs when it comes to gaming performance. The benchmarks look to be around the same (~2000 3dmark06) Is there any difference to these cards really other than that the 9300 is clocked slightly higher?

2nd question is the difference between 9300GS with 128 dedicated video mem and 9300GS with 256 dedicated video mem? Is there any performance gain at all when using the 256 dedicated?

Thanks!!

 

Thank you so much for answers. maybe sb tell me sth else about this?

thank You guys.

 

Small difference, the 9300 is about 10% better stock clocked I think.

I don't know whether the 9300 is just clocked higher though


And about the video memory, I dont think these two cards can used all 256mb of memory and therefore be very little difference in performance because of it.

 

Yea.. I hear you on the 256meg memory thing. I just dont understand why they would make cards that are "256" vs "128" if there is no gain.

 

it's a gimmick

 

In certain cases, you could use more than 128mb on the 9200/9300 cards. So that's the reason.

 

The GeForce 9200/9300 are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to performance; expect to play modern games on very low settings.

Both cards have the same number of shader cores (8); the 9300 is indeed faster but only by very little. Nvidia lists the specifications of the cards here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html

 

I really want to know if there is any difference between them, because I've been checking around and I've found that the 9600M GT has a 256 bit memory bus while the 130M GT has only 128 bit memory bus, so the same site is saying that the 9600M GT is much faster.

GeForce 130M GT

and another,T9600 @ 2.8GHz VS. T9800 @ 2.93GHz? (both Intel Core 2 duo)
will it differ a lot in performance ? or will I just be wasting more money ?
and by performance i mean crysis and assassins creed , cuz am customizing a laptop and still haven't bought 1 yet.

 

the Geforce 130M GT appears to be MUCH better

 

The 9600M GT doesn't have a 256 bit memory bus, it only has a 128 bit one. The GT 130M is better in every single aspect.

 

I don't know where you got that chart but it's wrong. The GT130m is an 8600mGT/9600mGT rebrand.

Taken directly from this http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_130m_us.html

32 unified shaders, and a 128bit memory bus supporting GDDR2/3, but with a slightly higher shader clock of 1500mhz. This card would get no more than 5500 in 3dmark06 in a fairly high spec'd notebook.

 

i got it from notebookcheck, and plasma seems to agree, besides how can it be a rebrand of both? the 8600M GT is a 9500M GT...

 

Your list is actually a typo, that's supposed to be the GTX160m, even notebookcheck's own page for the GTX130m shows it getting half that score.

Also, the 8600mGT is a 80nm, the 9600mGT is a die shrunk version to 65nm with a major shader clock increase, but the memory clocks are almost the same, the GTX130m is the same thing, but die shrunk AGAIN to 55nm with an even higher shader clock, very minimal increases in performance over the 9600mGT because of the same memory bandwidth as the 8600mGT.

 

The Nvidia GeForce GT 130M is a DirectX 10 graphics card for notebooks and technically a higher clocked GeForce 9650M GT with a lower current consumption, maybe the chart was a website error but it is still better than the 9600M GT

 

i'd just like to say that my 9600M GT OC'd rocks.

UT3 @ 1920x1080 @ 60fps, Sins of a Solar empire with the same treatment, etc. etc.

that is all.

 

It does get a little hot though, while gaming.

 

Which one of these cards will be better for gaming?

 

Which 9300M is it, the 'G' or 'GS'? And is it DDR2 or DDR3 video memory?

 

I'm not sure. It is a NVIDIA GeForce 9300M 128MB In a Lenovo Think Pad SL300

 

Here's a review of the SL300 with the nVIDIA 9300M GS- LINK

Neither the 8400M or the 9300M are great for gaming, but the 9300M is likely the better of the two.

What system were you comparing that has the 8400M GS?

 

A dell 15" vostro.

 

You guys crank me up ....

Why would those 2 Dedicated Card would not be good for gaming ??

Because you can't MAX out all the setting in recent game and get the most FPS out of every game ...

I mean come on .. The first thing you should of ask is , what are your expection , are you looking for a top of the line card to max out every game or just get a good gaming experience ... ?

O.k i know that those card are not high end card , but they can do the job just fine ... i do have the 8400m GS 256 MB and it serve me well , i play F.E.A.R 2 all max out with 4xAA in 1024*768 and get AVG 20-21 FPS wich is perfect no lag or nothing , i went through MASS EFFECT with Medium and some high setting without a problem ...other then that im usually able to run game pretty well , maybe not all Max out , but hey as long as the graphx are good and there's no lag you should be happy , unless your a FPS freak ...

Anyways that's just my 2 cent , not everybody has the money to buy the Top of the line , latest vid card ... !

As for the 2 card : the 9300(128mb) score 1695 in 3dmark06 , mine 8400M GS(256mb) scored ~1900 and 2400~2500 O/C

 

Which card has a better performance the GTX 260 or the 40nm 4860?

 

More than likely the GTX 260M, and you probably won't see a 4860 in anyone's hands here through June.

 

dunno, it's almost like the same 9800 gt/8800gt vs hd4830. i think they would be very similar.

 

How about....
Nobody knows for sure since both cards aren't out yet? Any definite answer right now is pretty much a guess on the person's part.

It's equivalent to asking whether the ASD213 will be quicker than the Pkw59. Nobody knows!

And no, I do not know what a ASD213 or a Pkw59 is, or if they even exist.

 

I'm guessing you're asking this question because you planning to upgrade your laptop's GPU, yes? Stick to the GTX 260m, it's officially supported by Clevo, that's my opinion.

 

I'd go with 260m, cos since performance would be likely similar.

Performance aside, its the extra that's gonna to help. NV's card has got other addon such as Badaboom video converter (much better than Ati's converter). Allowing GPU to help, when converting video by offloading CPU usage, (this is significant as CPU is the bottleneck mostly in laptops); and there are Physx support on NV's side.