Ubisoft's DRM cracked in minutes (News) - So much for uncrackable

If it is cracked, the pirates are the only ones with a working copy of AC2. Yet somehow, DRM is supposed to be good for consumers. Right.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/07/ubisoft-drm-authentification-server-is-down-assassins-creed-2/

 

thats the problem with this kind of drm- it penalizes the legit owner. the pirated version in effect is the better game since it allows you to play it anytime, anywhere.
thats the whole irony of it all

 

sins of a solar empire. now those guys got my money. i believe it worked fine in the money making side fo things too.

(i haven't read the whole thread as i am a lazy )

 

i have a legit bought copy of the game, i also know where to look to find things that are a little pricey and have stoopid DRM BS . i bought the game without knowing about the DRM being so retarded, so i found the lited Skidrow crack(yes it does exsits) and i am able to play AC2 without my internet hooked up.......so its a legit crack...i really think that like micorsoft game publishers force us to stoop to these levels, y trying to fight the piracy without even addressing why the games are being pirated. its just plain ignorant, thinking that anyone can successfully implement an "uncrackable" DRM that is built like this. its hard to fathom a group of smart individuals would come to the conclusion that this is the best action to take to protect their game.lol

 

Agreement. I haven't read the entire thread either, but Stardock's got this right.

They even have a Gamer's Bill of Rights, for God's sake!

At any rate, this is what happens:
New "infallible" DRM comes out and people work themselves up about it, then a group cracks it without any problems, then HARSHER DRM gets enforced.

The legitimate user loses. Although, the legitimate user could himself crack the game; I mean, that minute justification is what keeps famous crack sites from being pulled under: the message saying "We don't condone illegal use of software."

I ramble; it's only a matter of time before this thread gets closed.

It's nothing more than the same political debate about piracy, with people making the same points over and over again

I didn't even say anything that hasn't been said before. *sigh.

 

Shouldn't you be able to get a refund for the game? I mean, if you pay for it, and it doesn't work, aren't you actually getting scamed? :/

 

Ironically because of the DRM the retail cost is $10 more than any other brand new game. Ubisoft will win the sales profit game!

 

Pretty much if you buy the game, you are a second-class citizen and thus you get treated like it.

The sad part is, regardless of what you do, you are treated as a criminal.
The only legal and intelligent choice is to completely ignore the game.

I thought the original was ok, due to not being interested in being treated like a criminal I won't play this one on any system.

Ubisoft doesn't appreciate its customers... its pretty clear what should happen.

 

If i just didnt have the problem of having a huge dongle sticking 4 inches to the side from my usb port, providing unstable internet connection, being vulnerable to being knocked off, being a huge weigh on my CPU...

I'll buy the game when laptops come with integrated wireless internet.

 

you can get that now if you get selected models

 

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Wow....just wow.

This is so sad because Assassin's Creed 2 is an amazing game, and this will more than likely turn people away from playing it.

Glad I got it for the 360.

 

Based on reviews. it seems the game was made for 360 controller anyways. So buying a PC version even without the DRM isn't as enjoyable as playing on XBox.

 

Well some people (like me) have xbox controllers for the PC, but I agree, these console ports should at least have controls designed for the PC instead of just flat out console port down to the core (Yes DMC I'm looking at you ).

 

I pay for everything that is not by Ubisoft. Ubisoft doesn't deserve my money for now.

 

dude almost every laptop sold over the last 5+ years has integrated wireless

 

Hmm yea this is why PC gaming is dying.

 

Casual gamers reverting to consoles for a casual experience is certainly increasing and taking away from the PC market share. Make no mistake when next gen consoles find a way to universally market dedicated server/ and mouse and keyboard support, then all hope will be lost for PC gaming.

I mean, how many CSS players, cod4 players and any competitive gaming community really, would not buy a system that has dedicated servers, mouse and keyboard support, and the added bonus of a constant 250 frames-per-second for a dirt-cheap price tag? The day that happens on console will be a grim day for PC gaming indeed.

 

When that happens, it will no longer be called a console, but a propriety computer system not much unlike how Mac was in the early days, and we all know why Mac lost to the PC upstart, simply because of how closed the development was from the public.

 

meh, PC will always dominate for strategy and RPG.. .which are my 2 favorites.


I guess it depends how you define a "hardcore gamer".... someone who spends a lot of money on a system to play FPS games might be hardcore.. but they are still playing what I consider casual games

 

RPG not so much, consoles have always won the JRPG battle, and now they're developing western RPGs for both consoles and PC (Oblivion, ME, ME2, Dragon Age Origins, FO3... just to name a few).

 

Calling Mass Effect an RPG is a stretch.... (it's a great game.. don't get me wrong).. but its' more of a RPG/FPS hybrid... .same with FO3.

Dragon Age was released for consoles... but those versions are total crap compared to the PC version.


Still point taken.... there are some RPGs on consoles... but very few of them are "full" RPGs.

 

Strange, I am enjoying it a great deal. More than I ever would on consoles.

On topic:

DRM is what game developers think they need right now, and we as PC gamers have to respect that, or watch our favorite platform fail as more and more developers abandon us for the safer consoles (Just look at the piracy stats across all three major platforms for MW2).

It's that simple, if you don't agree with the DRM don't buy the game, but if DRM is a problem, you will be playing less and less games. Seeing Ubisoft's DRM up close, I am not even sure it is intended as a DRM directly. More like a transition or stepping stone of PC gaming to online completely. On the insert with Assassin's Creed II there is a box as big as the box for the CD-key, it is an advertisement for UBI Shop (they sell everything from games to strategy guides), it looks very similar to Steam. I believe many developers will go this same direction, in part to protect their art and investment, and second it will be the natural progression of PC gaming.

Talk to any EB Games manager here they say the same thing. "Yes we have less PC games (some down to a single shelf of new releases only) but check out our online store."

I know, I am as guilty as anyone, I have pirated PC games in the past. I stopped over a year ago now, and I am not going to lie, I feel pretty guilty about it. I saw FREE GAMES, but no consequences, it is because of people like me that we have DRM to begin with.

 

Except i still need to have that USB dongle sticking 4 inches to the side if i'm not within a wireless internet connection range.

 

No, we do not. Frankly, if this is the path they're going to take, then the devil be with them -- let them "abandon" the PC platform so that something better can take their place. I already spend a lot more time playing free flash games than I do $50 AAA games -- the former have no way to do fancy graphics so they have to focus on original (or at least fun) gameplay.

 

I think he s referring to a 3g unit

My Dell 620 has a 3g card under the battery so it doesnt need a dongle

I believe there have been a couple of Clevo models with this as well



Back on topic

The problem with the DRM is that people see it as a sign of 2 things

A) not being trusted that they wont nick a game at the first chance
B) being constrained

For example if you move house i wouldnt be able to play silent hunter 5 for 2 weeks due to the chance of having no net connection. Is this fair for someone who lumped out £35 for the game?

I am not interested in what is fair to Ubisoft they will not raise profits from DRM. I am concerned with what is fair for the consumer.

I take into account the limitations of discussion on this forum but it does need to be said.

I have purchased alot of games throughout the years, hell 20+ since Xmas. But i cant critise people who pirate SH5 as they do not want to be told when and how they can play thier games. Once they purchase the license to play the game (with the exception of multiplayer) thats it they should be able to use this software wherever/whenever.

I personally go to visit my Sister in law in brighton and she doesnt have a net connection however my brother in law and I enjoy games of SH4. See who can sink what within an hour etc...Cant do that with the new one (legitimatly) as no net connection.

Someone says to me they have a pirate copy of Mw2 my initial reaction is that it is a free country and they can do what they please however I do tend to say "you Fool" its well worth buying (despite no dedi servers!). However if they said the same about AC2 and SH5 i am more inclined to say install on mine while your here...

I am a 28 year old man and long have the days past when someone can tell me when i can play games and when i cant.

 

Bottom line, this flies in the face of "customer first". Whatever happened to businesses taking care of the customer. It seems these days that businesses do what's best for them and their stockholders these days and paying customers get pooped on and given the middle finger. I guess it's all our own fault for continuing to support these companies by buying their products.

Until "big business" gets back to respecting the customer, things are only going to get worse.