Utilities for overclocking my 3650?

Hi everyone,

I have been thinking about overclocking my 3650 lately, because of my low frames in Crysis, and I was wondering what utilities I could use for my 3650. I have tried using AMD GPU Clock Tool, but for some reason it didn't detect my clocks, and whenever I tried setting it to a different frequency it would just reset back to what it was originally. I tried ATI Tool, and that didn't even install properly...

So how do you do it?

 

maybe this guide can help:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=258569

 

Oh yeah, forgot that I'll need newer drivers for it.

I'll have to get the latest Catalyst Drivers, and mod them. Damn it, this is going to slow my Windows 7 boot time by a wide margin.

EDIT: What the...

...it seems that I am unable to uninstall my drivers from the Control Panel.

 

Alright, I got the latest 10.1 driver running through Mobility Modder, and I need to test some games, make sure I don't get a BSOD, and check whether it's up and running properly.

The funny thing was, ATI's install log said it didn't install properly, but it's working fine so far.

Man I hate 640 x 480...

EDIT: Pretty much no difference in games, maybe a little bit of a drop actually from the new drivers. I tried AMD GPU Clock Tool again, and it did the same thing, not detecting my clocks properly. I tried ATI Tool and for some reason when I start it up an icon in the system tray says "loading", and that took about a minute, and when I moved my mouse over it after it stopped loading it said Core 1J#Mhz or something weird like that, and exactly the same for memory. It didn't ever open properly.

 

Is this your GPU:
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/922647_eagle58_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_3650_ddr2_5854_marks

Almost a 100% OC on the core, unbelievable.

 

Wow, that's crazy. I think mine would die if I put it under that sort of pressure. And I'm guessing that a lot of the 3DMarks or for the Core i5 processor though...

 

i use this program....
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1383/GPUTool_Community_Technology_Preview_1.html

 

WOW that is a gay OC...

 

what you need is
download and install these

1) http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1052i/MMDotNETSetup.zip
2) https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/10-1_vista32_win7_32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe

3) http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/536i/AMDGPUClockTool_v0.7.zip

4) laptop cooler or undervold cpu or both. ask how


steps

Install mobility modder and turn off UAC
Extract ati 10.1 drivers to a folder on your hard drive
mod folder you extracted with mobility mod
install drivers via ati setup
install amd gpu tool v.07
run as admin. make sure you run as admin
overclock gpu about 100mhz on core then stepup after testing stability in games
overclock memory on gpu by about 150-200 safely then go up in increments of 10mhz after testing stability

and make sure you watch your temps

cpu around (30c-70c) is ok
gpu around (60-100c) is ok

monitor them with
http://www.cpuid.com/download/hwmonitor/HWMonitor_115_setup.exe

ask

 

I've done the whole driver thing now, but whenever I set a clock rate higher than default, it automatically crashes on me, the whole system locks up.

 

Wow, I think that actually worked. Been running core at 650 over the default 600 and it hasn't crashed so far.

 

you should be able to go higher.
iv'e been overclocking this hd2600 for a year straight

500 OC to 634 stable lmfao real stable 1.5 years OC

 

Seems like the memory doesn't like being overclocked at all, bumped it up a little bit and got some artifacting in Crysis, and the stability test locked up my computer.

 

I'm not convinced it's working. Whenever I set the core to something higher, there is absolutely no difference in the benchmark of the utility.

 

turn off powermizer in ati dude

lol i forgot my first time also

 

Nah, I got it now. Core doesn't really seem to make all that much difference, but memory does. I'm getting a few more frames in Crysis now, running at 725 core, and 675 memory. Damn you DDR2 memory. If I had GDDR3 I'd get a lot more frames.

 

Do you have a 128bit memory bus?

 

Yes, but I'm running the game at 1280 x 800, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem. The 128 bit bus should only really cripple it at 1680 x 1050 and upwards. It's the DDR2 VRAM that is making it so slow, if it was GDDR3, it would probably be about 30% faster.

 

Might be time to rip the notebook open and see what PLL you have?

 

Still under warranty, unfortunately, and another two years of it as well. I did try SetFSB though, and I tried every single PLL in the drop down list, and none of them read the correct frequency, so I tried Clockgen as well, and none of them worked either. I think I would have to do a pin mod to overclock the processor.

 

bit slow on the reply xD
but what u mean 'wow, i think it actually worked'??? you had no faith. i wouldn't steer you wrong

 

I think you should be able to overclock your 3650 HD by 15% on the core, 5-10% the memory and maybe even up to 20 % on the shaders.
Dunno if it applies to ATI cards aswell, but my 9650m never artifacted when I OC'ed it from 550/400/1375 to 650/450/1550 and ran at max 76-77 C
DDR2 memory on that card ofcourse and initial bump from 400 to 450 on memory didn't cause any problems.
If you keep getting artifacts, when OC-ing memory even just a bit I suggest you leave it and try to OC just core and shaders.
Then use Furmark 1.8.0 to test results - if this doesn't warm up ur card to thresshold point - nothing will.
O yea and I suggest that you stay near your laptop and watch the results - if anything happends turn Furmark off right away and give up on OC-ing. You don't want to damage your GPU for sure

A funny story too - my buddy who has a 2-year old Toshiba A200 with HD2600 and who didn't know much about OC-ing did an initial OC on that card by 30% on each atribute (that means core,memory,shaders) and ran NO testing at all ... and it turned out that....this GPU works fine up to this day now that's what I call a risk, normally I would predict a failure of his GPU in less than few months at best,

 

It's just that I had no faith that it would work, since every single tool apart from this one has either not worked or not installed properly.

Yep, done. Running at Core 725 and Memory 575, over the default 600/500. BTW, ATI cards have their SP's tied to the core, so they run at the same speed. I have found that if I push the memory anything past 580 it will start to artifact, and if I push the core past 775, it will start to artifact as well, so with the memory being so close to artifact point, it's potentially killing my card and I wouldn't know it, since the memory has no temperature diode...

 

Great - what scores did you get?
You used 3Dmark06 ?

 

Haven't used 3DMark06, I don't even have it on my laptop.

But Crysis gained a few more frames, making it playable, and MW2 actually got bumped up from 25 FPS average to about 32 FPS average, monitoring with FRAPS, so I'd say it's worth it.

 

Quite nice, I get very good fps - I think around ~50 in MW2 on multi, everything on max and native res, except shadows witch I always turn off, because I consider them distracting anyway. If you run with shadows on, I suggest you turn them off - large fps boost and easier to shoot people

 

I like Shadows, it really seems to add to the realism of the game. Particularly when it comes to Crysis, Very High Shadows look beautiful. Not that I run them like that though.

Will give it a try though, purely to see what the FPS difference is.

 

good R&D shadow

Ill try this when i get home, with before and after 3Dmark06 test.

I built my self a custom laptop cooler, -10c on all sensors. so not worried about heat. (or as worried )

Maybe Ill be luckier with my GPU, or maybe not. We shall see.

Have you tired OCing the CPU?

I run Med-Low settings in Crysis(Mech Warrior Living legends, I can get upper 20s but once I get lots of nature it drops to like high teens.

 

Here is my Results Temp with OC moved up only 10c, 68C, but thats just during the 3Dmark. I need to play some crysis to see how high it will go.

STOCK


OC1


OC2

OC3


OC4 GPU 762 memory 567mhz 18% performance gain.


If I moved up the Ram any higher, it would just crash. I need more testing with my 4.7k score setup.

 

Nice overclock on that. I found the same problem with the memory, I can get it to 580Mhz, (I generally run at 575Mhz), but anything higher it will crash and artifact.

As for heat testing, try Furmark. Apparently, it will pretty much take the GPU as high as possible, people get higher temps in Furmark than in Crysis.

 

^ K will do.

I am using my cooler, so you prob will have temps 10+ from mine :O

Did the same OC work for you as well?

Edit: Ran Furmark for 30min highest temp was 55C, lol going to play some crysis with my new found power

 

Wow, 55C overclocked is great. For a midrange 15.4", the cooling system on the A300 seems really good. I think mine's running at about 67C or 68C, when stressed, but I haven't cleaned out the fans at all since I got it, it would void my warranty if I did.

I'm running at 725Mhz core, and 575Mhz memory. I could bump up the core to 750Mhz, but the performance difference doesn't really seem to be worth it.

 

yea, you get like 100 points. I might lower it, but it works fine and I only use the aggressive OC for gaming, so I think Ill keep it ? Anyhow I just played Crysis for a while, its 100% stable.

Temp did go up to 69C, But thats the temp I got stock with out my cooler. So its running great. I am now in the Mid 20s from high teens.

Honestly, Just get some compressed air and blow in from the exit vent, most of the dust will pop out on the intake vent.

With my custom cooler, my keyboard hardly gets warm and my HD stays at 31c. You got a PM

 

I suggest you set memory at 550 Mhz....this will give you still benefits of OC, but make it a lot more safe

 

If it gets too hot, I will, I don't generally run it like that all the time anyway. I'll try 550Mhz and see how the performance goes.

 

watch ur memory dude... its most likely to burn out and that's why i don't OC it...

 

eh it seems like this thread problem is solved but ill throw in my 2 cents
i used to use amd gpu tool and then after a certain cataylst driver i couldnt use it anymore or something and then someone on here said that gputool works for mobilty ati's to overclock so i tried it and it works

i have a a300 07g with 3650 ddr2 with default clocks of 600 core, 500 mem and i take to 800,600 when needed for quick sessions with high fps or 775,575 for longer bouts and therefore safer :/

 

Wow, yours actually works at 800/600? Mine artifacts if it's that high.

 

Kind of off topic but what drivers is everyone running on the 3650? I just upgraded to the latest one and only certain games are lagging. Like Batman AA is lagging when before it wasn't.

 

im using 9.12s soon to be 10.1, no problems so far
try reinstall your drivers

 

I'm using 10.1.