V-sync VS smoothframe rate

There are 2 settings am very curious about. Do you usually leave them both on in a game?

I find that v-sync causes a little input lag and makes the game run very strange like its always changing between 30 and 60 FPS. I do not have any lag when using vsync but its like the gameplay speeding up and down every second, kind of hard to explain, It does however fix all the image tearing...

Now i only use smoothframe rate and set it to max 59 FPS so it says under my 60 HZ refrsh rate so i get minimum image tearing, but its still there and very annoying.

I think it sux that e have to choose between smooth game play with image tearing, or akward gameplay with no image tearing

 

Vsync behaves different on every game (graphics engine). Also, never trust that a program truly enables Vsync, the only sure way is through the driver.

 

you can just force vsync on in your driver, some games when you have force vsync on already you still have to turn it on the 'in game' settings. im not sure how it works on ati card drivers.

 

Personally I never play with Vsync because of the input lag it gives me.

Since I play on a 120hz monitor, I never have tearing issues. Before when I played on my laptop, I never really had tearing issues either before I played BF3. Personally I didn't find it that annoying (but I know some people can get really put off by the slightest amount).

Some people can play with vsync at 30fps or 60fps etc and be perfectly comfortable with it. Personally I prefer the fps to be around the 100-120 range so everything feels "fluid" for me.

It's really all up to you really. Play around with the settings and see what fits you best.

 

D3DOverrider = V-sync + Triple Buffering = minimal input lag and no screen tearing

 

hehe I was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to mention D3D overrider ;p

 

VSync is the DEVIL. Each year, VSync is causing us to run up an additional 1.8 trillion USD in national debt, and is responsible for the deaths of 140,000 American soldiers. It is well-publicised fact that VSync regularly holds pagan rituals where it sacrifices a dozen newborns and sheds the blood of twenty virgins in order to call the wrath of its malignant deity upon good, hardworking, ordinary citizens. It has also been linked to prostate cancer, paranoid schizophrenia and sudden infantile death syndrome.

Avoid it at all costs. Down with VSync!

 

I never use Vsync. It always seems to cause some input delay, and the little bit of tearing I do occasionally see does not bother me.

 

I don't tend to use V-Sync either because of the tearing, but I will use it for games that has Triple Buffering variant of V-Sync, but I mostly avoid using it when I don't need to.

 

I use V-Sync for third person open world games. (Assasins Creed)

What is D3DOverrider that someone mentioned above?

 

I always use VSYNC there has only been one or two games in my entire life that it did not play well enabling it via in-game and I had to use D3DOveride to do it instead.

Never had input lag issues.

Vsync not only prevents screen tearing witch is horrible if you have it, but it reduces cpu & gpu load considerably on some games. This can directly be compared to the amount of energy my computer is using and the amount of heat it is producing.

I can actually know when I forgot to turn on vsync because I will get hot in my room due to my cpu & gpu running near 100% load. With vysnc I usually only have 50% load or less and that is because it only uses the amount of resources need to render 60fps instead of 120+

There is no reason to render more than 60fps when my monitor is only displaying 60fps due to its refresh rate.


The only time to turn it off is when you cant hold 30+fps at all times and it drops under 30fps to 15fps due to sync when without sync it may run 25-26.

 

^ good points! thanks for your input.

 

Dont you find it annoying when it jumps between 30 and 60 FPS all the time? For me that makes using V-Sync a bad experience. Also how can you NOT have sceen tearing without V-sync? I never played 3d game in my life that didnt come with screen tearing with V-Sync off. Is it a way to avoid V-Sync and screen tearing at the same time?

 

I've never had vsync rigidly jump between 30 and 60 fps.

Anyway, if you want to avoid tearing, try using an fps limiter to cap your framerate to 30.

 

Yeah I have never had a jump from 30 to 60 myself, and if it did happen not sure I would even notice it unless it was a twich based fps game.

 

US soldiers use VSync?

 

It depends on the game but I never have vsync on because for me my framerate always seem to drop. Especially when I play fps I would want my fps to be the highest as possible.

 

Well in ALice madness returns i can notice the FPS drop very hard when going from 60 to 30 and it pisses me off so much i wanna smash my laptop in ragemode

It is however better than screen tearing which makes the game so unplayable i could just go play my gameboy instead

 

You should only turn on VSYNC when you are consistently higher than 60FPS/ your Monitors refresh rate. Otherwise, VSYNC will cause a performance hit.

 

Or get an extremely minimal fps hit and get the same smooth visual quality of Vsync with D3D overrider
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How is the D3D overrider V-Sync better than the built in V-sync in game?

I feel however i use enought of these programs.

CCC to adjust colors as it comes with the driver.
Ati Try Tool for overclocking and overvolting
I really dont need a third program for V-Sync...

 

v-sync is v-sync, but you can enable DirectX triple-buffering with D3DOverrider. triple-buffering + v-sync makes for a very smooth playback.

 

Can you not anable this with Ati tray tool or CCC?

What does triple buffering do? do it decrease performance?

Edit: I see they have triple buffering in Atri Tray tool as well, i turned it on now

 

Triple buffering + Vsync = same quality but better performance than Vsync alone.

 

this article will give you an idea what triple-buffering is all about. and you can not enable it through CCC; the triple-buffering option there is only for OpenGL applications, not DirectX ones. you can use ATi Tray Tools though, or D3DOverrider as mentioned before.

 

I use to trust in V-Sync, but then I decided it would just be better off because in some parts of a game it would just dip below and having vsync on would soften that kind of blow in a game.

 

it really depends, in my experience on several games, its just a matter of see and tell whether you really need vsync. if you experience no tearing at all, then there's no such use.