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    Valve should be mad

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Pandadeist, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Pandadeist

    Pandadeist Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone else think Valve should be ticked off that Amazon has Left 4 Dead as an EA product?
     
  2. HTWingNut

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    No, but all accounts that installed the product from Amazon will probably be deactivated.
     
  3. Snake520

    Snake520 Notebook Consultant

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    Is this true?
     
  4. Lomaster

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    Not really, to me it looks like it's just a typo, buyers still need to activate the game through steam and that does it.
     
  5. darth jimmy

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    the ps3 version of orange box has the ea logo when you put the game in
     
  6. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    EA is the retail distributor of L4D.
     
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    AznImports602 Notebook Deity

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    No, that's not true. It's the same thing as buying The Orange Box from Amazon. EA is licensed to distribute Left 4 Dead. You still have to activate it on Steam before using it. The disks are unusable without Steam.
     
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    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    i dont thing wingnut likes steam, thats all he was getting at lol
     
  10. Pandadeist

    Pandadeist Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, well, I was mistaken, then. Still, I find it odd to put the publisher under the title instead of the developer.

    But oh well, I apologize for my ignorance.
     
  11. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    True, he was probably being sarcastic, but I didn't catch it the first time around.

    No biggy, we're all here to learn :)
     
  12. HTWingNut

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    I use Steam, in fact have hundreds of dollars worth of games on Steam. But recently when I started reading about people having full accounts deactivated for having what Steam declared and "illegal" purchased game.

    My issue is that while they do allow sales of products through "authorized retailers" they never clarify who/what an authorized retailer is. I'd be wary of buying from anywhere but ON Steam for a Steam product is all I'm saying.
     
  13. Luke1708

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    Can they do it without warning even when people have purchased the game "legally" and steam considers it illegal? :confused:
     
  14. HTWingNut

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    I won't start this "argument" again, but the accounts I've read, one significant one here, and others elsewhere, Steam did deactivate their account without warning, and no recourse. Well, some had luck getting their accounts reactivated, but not without jumping through extraordinary hoops.

    I don't know all the real details or how "legal" these games are/were, but the fact that they can disable your ENTIRE collection of games on a whim for what they consider a SINGLE illegal purchase is deplorable.

    It's like if you were to have a single mp3 on your iPod that wasn't purchased at iTunes or from your ripped CD collection, and Apple finds out, so you can't listen to your entire collection any more. Or going to Best Buy and buying a music CD, only to find out the CD was not supposed to be sold at Best Buy, so the police come and confiscate your entire music CD collection. It's absurd.

    At best the customer deserves at least a single warning, deactivation of the "illegal" or "unauthorized purchased" game, and support for that customer to discipline the original seller of the "unauthorized" game, not the customer.