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    WHQL Nvidia Verde 280.26 release 9th Aug

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by MrDJ, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. MrDJ

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    What are people using for a driver cleaner now and are they even still needed. Noticed you can't even download Driver Sweeper form 3D Guru any longer ! :confused:

    Guru3D - Driver Sweeper (Setup) download from Guru3D.com

    From the link:
    "Attention - Guru3D Driver Sweeper has been discontinued as such you will not find any download links here any longer."
     
  3. naticus

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    it's not needed as the nvidia drivers have a built in 'cleaner' when you install through 'custom' installation.

    Works great.
     
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    You can easily use CCleaner for good measure just in case after you remove the older driver.
     
  5. MrDJ

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    driver cleaner still found obsolete nvidia bits in registry and cc cleaner found even more so it might say the cleaners are not needed any more but actually they are unless you want lots of nvidia odds and sods cluttering up your registry.
     
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    Clean install means cleaning nvcp settings and profiles only.
    It doesn't remove orphan files or registry keys.
    So yes,driver cleaner method is more affidable and useful if you want a real clean installation.
     
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    From 280.19 beta to 280.26 (specs in sig)
    before/after

    3dmark06:
    9915 / 9933
    cpu temps:
    88C / 87C
    gpu temps:
    68C / 67C

    3dmark vantage:
    p5382 / p5371
    cpu temps:
    85C / 85C
    gpu temps:
    64C / 64C
     
  8. coolguy

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    280.19 beta = 280.26 with WHQL. There is no need to compare the two drivers.
     
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    By cleaning the Nvidia clutter in your registry, you don't gain anything.
     
  10. MrDJ

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    well you do when my lappy is 3 years old now and if i didnt do a deep clean there would be lots of crap in the background by now.
     
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    Thanks for the news! Going to try this +1
     
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    This version imporved my GTA IV FPS by 5-10. Unbeliveable.
     
  14. farsang

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    ^5-10 fps seems illogical,if it had been 2 to 3 fps then it would have been more believable.
     
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    Maybe 10fps is an exaggeration..but 5fps is indeed possible.
    Starting from 275.33 nvidia enabled specific dual core optimizations for those situations and games where the title is CPU limited using cuda architecture and parallel processing.
    I didn't tested gtaIV yet since I own only Eflc (which is a different story performance wise afaik) but I'm curious to see how much it has improved.
     
  16. tuηay

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    Then don't belive me. I'm not paying you to belive me, go play some mario card on your wii.
    I didin't know about this, but this is pretty much the case here I think. And yes, you are right, EFLC is a diffrent story, performance wise.

    I have a FPS between 20 and 51 with this driver. my FPS can be high as 51 (as far as I have noticed) but also low as 20. It stays somewhat between 25-35 FPS.
     
  17. MrDJ

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    nice one tunay. thanks for the feedback.
     
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    bro no hard feelings but i see no reason to be so rude. :)
     
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    Okay play on your XBox then :D :D
     
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    thanks for the feedback tunay.
    been thinking of whether to update or not.
    just decided to give it a go :)

    thanks also to mrdj for constantly posting updates.
     
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    No problem mate, update to this driver have been noticeable, at least for my GT 130M.
     
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    your welcome trvelbug. i try my best :D
    ive not noticed hardly any change using vantage or 3dmark06 but ive got the older 260GTX
     
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    i tried these but they are no match for my old trusty 181.06.
     
  24. chapter81

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    Just to say that this update screwed my DV8 in a way I could've never imagined.

    After installation, right when the Windows 7 logo disappears, the whole screen turned black. I tried uninstalling the previous driver and reinstalling the new one from scratch with no success. After 2 hard resets (only way to reinitialize), my computer started to state "corrupt disk". Checkdisk kicked in, I managed to uninstall the bad driver and am sticking with 275.33.

    Really wanted to do this update since so many people are talking about the performance boost and because I'm organized and like to keep drivers up to date. Somehow, this driver is not working for me.

    Any suggestions? Is it something I'm doing wrong? I've never had this problem before.
     
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    Don't fix what's not broken. I would only upgrade if a game isn't currently support by your set of drivers.

    I'm still running 265 drivers. They work great!
     
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    Cool just dl for my gtx 260m. So far so good. I do see a reduction of my idle temp of about 2-3 degrees.
     
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    Im using 280.36 developer drivers and they are awesome, much more stable than these ones :)
     
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    Will it help lower my temps even more?
     
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    Don't know mate, but this developer driver supposedly fixed instability and driver crashing.
    Starting from 280.xx nvidia implemented a newer power management engine and this set surely improves over 280.26.
    September is the target release time for the newer beta which should address some more bugs.
    Give them a go, you can find the driver along with the modded Inf Laptopvideo2go.com.
     
  30. tuηay

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    I suspect the new driverr files goes in conflict with old junk from previus driver or something like that, do you use Driver Sweaper (or what that is called @ first page)

    You can also try to install in Safe Mode.

    I also always stay up to date with drivers, and it is the really best way to avoid any kind off issue with newer games. I have never suffred from driver crash or a problem with any of the games I play..

    What the hell are you talkink about?
     
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    Yeah, Tuηay, I'll try to do that. In regard to what Alexmuw said, I kinda see his protective point of view ("you don't change a winning team"), but even my computer not being "broken", I read that this driver can reduce temperature and increase some FPS, what makes me pretty interested on having it. Since I live in a hot country (Brazil - northeast), getting the computer to work on lower temperatures is always a plus.

    I'll give Drive Sweeper a go, hope I don't do something stupid. What's funny about the situation, though, is that after Windows said the disk was corrupt, it ran a kind of Disk Repair...and after that, the startup was just fine. I got it working with the latest driver. By the time I shut it off and restarted, the same problem returned: black screen.

    Oh, and a question: even when I uninstall EVERYTHING from NVidia and delete the drivers folder and all, when I turn my computer back on it starts to automatically install some NVidia driver...it happened three times and everytime it installed a different version. Where are these drivers coming from?! How can I make it stop and let me install my driver alone?
     
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    ^^^^^ That
     
  33. tuηay

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    That is windows drivers, there is a 'guide' if my memory don't fail here on NBR about how to avoid that.. It is a good thing tou, I mean that you want lower tempratures, that will also increase your overall system lifetime.. What's your max tempratures now by the way?
    And you say don't fix something that is not broken?
     
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    Follow these steps:

    - get driver sweeper
    - get CCleaner
    - get 280.26, or, go to laptopvideo2go and Download 280.36+modded inf (I advice this one, is more stable than latest whql)

    Now unistall nvidia drivers using the usual windows method
    If it asks to reboot, don't do it, instead launch Driver Sweeper
    Check Nvidia Display/Chipset (only if you're running intel chipset, if you're running Nforce select only Display)
    Hit Analyze then Clean
    If it asks to reboot, don't reboot yet
    Launch CCleaner, go into registry tools, scan for registry errors, then repair them all
    Reboot

    When the Pc has rebooted windows should install a Standard VGA card.
    If it doesn't,probably it's attempting to download the driver from windows update. Click on the install icon in the task bar and stop the driver download.
    After you stopped it repeat the same steps with Driver Sweeper and CCleaner, reboot.
    After you get your Standard VGA adapter installed, launch nvidia setup, select customize, select all the components but not 3d controller/driver, check "perform clean installation".
    Let it install, reboot, then eveythinf should be clean and safe to use.
     
  35. MrDJ

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    i would recommend using safe mode as cleaning drivers like above doesnt always remove all the remnants unless you are in safe mode.

    this is the walkthrough which has been used for the last 5 years
    ive tried various options and there are still nvidia files left if you dont go into safe mode.

     
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    they seem to run cooler for me, and thats even better than any change in vantage scores :)

    havent fired up cuda yet, so i dont know if there are any significant changes there though...
     
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    ive not really monitored my temps lately as not been able to game at all due to eye problem.
    must admit the only other time ive seen a 3-5c drop in temps is when the 186.81 were released a couple of years ago so it is defo possible to see significant drops in temps.
    glad these ones helped you out trvelbug :)
     
  38. aduy

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    just downloaded 280.36
     
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    They are not WHQL, yet? or?
     
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    most prob ltv2g
     
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    No WHQL, no use.
     
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    Please dont start the crap that WHQL means "better stable affidable" than Betas because its not.
    WHQL means Microsoft certified, nothing more, its not special in any way, plus it can be bugged as much or much more than the betas.
    Betas and DevDrivers proved to be more efficent and stable than official whql, and the whole overclockers/guru3d community in which im part since almost 10 years, can prove it.

    Fact is that 280.36 have some things fixed, tuned and finalized than the buggy whql drivers.

    Even beta 280.19 is more stable than 280.26.
     
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    Modding an inf still retains the WHQL certificate for the driver.
     
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    I'm not starting anything. I prefer WHQL drivers, or as you said "Microsoft certified" driver over any kind of modded drivers, but that is a personal preference. You are free to use whatever driver you want. If you respect my right to use WHQL drivers I will respect your right to use your modded driver and we will get along just fine. If you insist on trying to start an argument over my right to use WHQL and come here and say that I start 'something', then we have a problem.

    280.26 have not crashed me on a single time, and everything runs just fine.. Check your overclock.

    What I actually wonder is that if they every were relased as WHQL driver or if it was some kind of beta testing drivers, but however.
     
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    i kinda follow the same logic.
    if i was just gaming only then id be happy to try out modded inf drivers.
    but with my experience in the past, modded drivers (even if its just a modded inf) have broken functionality on some non-gaming features i use including: cuda support, hdmi, hdmi sound, bd playback, and some others i cant seem to remember now.

    thats why i look forward to mrdj's official release threads :)
     
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    My windows score went from 6.7 to 6.8!! I am happy bout that!
     
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    No mate I don't want to start any argument, maybe I was a bit too harsh in my post, so accept my excuses.
    What I'm sayin is that the 280.26 proved to be unstable than other driver releases, and it's not a problem related to the overclock.
    It's a proved fact (check guru3d) that this driver runs hotter, have the p-state switching bug, and sensibly lowered the tdr timings.
    However this could be seen only with gpus of gtx2xx/4xx/5xx family both desktop and laptop versions.
    Older cards are not affected as long as I see that's why my advice goes to some users only.
    Most of these bugs are already known to Nvidia dev team and should be patched in first week of september with a new beta release (at least is what ManuelG said).
    Probably your 130m isn't affected at all.
    Also the instability can be seen at stock clocks as I said already.
    Since we know upon further testing with usual bench machines that 280.36dev fix some issue that are present in 280.26 but not in 280.19 beta, I'm suggesting to try these ones at least for those running gtx2xxm and above.
     
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    Ahh, now it is a whole diffrent story :D But yeah, I have not heard anything about that, but as you said, it is most likely that my GT 130M is not affected at all, it is running as never before :cool:
     
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    For the record, I had problems with the 280.26 one evening. It kept crashing repeatedly and I sought help here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...0-screenflickering-gpu-driver-crash-help.html

    I made a video of it too: Sager 8150 NVidia 485M (280.26 driver) blackouts - YouTube

    But the day after the crash and to this day, I haven't had crashes again and I've tried to reproduce them by tracing my steps on the crash day. NOthing!

    I'm back on the 275.33 and will wait for the sept beta release.