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    WILL I7 4700HQ bottleneck GTX 780M? Please help

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by langtoc123, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. langtoc123

    langtoc123 Newbie

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    DO I NEED A BETTER CPU LIKE 4800HQ or 4700 HQ is enough for GTX780M( LAPTOP)?
     
  2. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No, it won't.
     
  3. 1nstance

    1nstance Notebook Evangelist

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    Nope.

    10chars
     
  4. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Considering the Mobile i7 Quads perform more or less at the level of a desktop i5 4670(k), which is the #1 desktop gaming CPU at the moment, the answer is definetively no.

    A 4670 can't even bottleneck a titan.
     
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    langtoc123 Newbie

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    thank you love u all
     
  6. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    The only reason in which i would recommend the 4800/4900 would be the following scenarios:
    - Virtualization/VM's
    - Rendering
    - Scientific Computing

    None of which apply to the average user, and most of the time just save the money and get a desktop if you need to do these kinds of tasks.
     
  7. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    In Battlefield 3 and 4? Everything short of a 4930K at 4.5GHz will bottleneck your cards. In every other game ever? Not even in the slightest.
     
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    cryptodamus Notebook Consultant

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    If i was gonna buy a laptop with 780m, I would definitely go with at least 4800mq/hq.
     
  9. Vitor711

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    Is that just relevant to the latest gen i7 or even last year's model? I ask because I worry that my CPU might be limiting my 680m in some titles.

    I know for a fact that I can't run Dolphin as smoothly as I'd like due to CPU limitations but, then again, Dolphin is a CPU destroyer by nature.
     
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    In some cases it might limit the FPS a bit, but for the most part no.
     
  11. Vitor711

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    I'm guessing it will probably be more of an issue come the imminent next gen launch.
     
  12. Jarhead

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    Considering that most gaming development happens for consoles nowadays, and the next-get will be using APUs, I still won't think that a i7-4700MQ would be bottlenecked much at all. Really, I'd only ever consider something higher for the reasons Jobine listed earlier.
     
  13. Kevin

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    Of course there will be games which would run faster, if the CPU was faster. It's straight up illogical to say the 4700MQ/HQ won't bottleneck anything.

    The thing is, the 4800HQ won't help any more, either. Mobile CPUs are simply too expensive to upgrade, when the next one up gives you such an incremental performance increase. You'd need to be at 4Ghz or higher to ensure there's no CPU bottleneck, but is the 4900MX worth the money? Of course not.
     
  14. Jobine

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    Dolphin runs almost exclusively by CPU. In fact, when playing Dolphin there is basically no difference in FPS between having a GT720M and a GTX 780M.

    So yeah, if you are gonna play that, i do recommend getting at least a 4800.
     
  15. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That is not entirely true.

    And who are you to suggest to someone that the 4930MX -- or any Extreme Edition processor, for that matter -- is not worth the money? People need and want different things. What isn't worth it to you may very well be "worth it" to others.
     
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    The i7-4930MX is a $300 i7-4770K priced at $1000+. Even by laptop component standards that's a ridiculous markup. People need to realize that before deciding whether it's "worth it" to them.
     
  17. TBoneSan

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    It totally depends on your personal situation. Yes XM is expensive. But they are so much faster than a non XM one can still easily keep up a few gen on - just upgrade the GPU as you go. Understandably, some people simply like to upgrade the whole machine instead.
    Today only a handful of games benefit from such power, tomorrow many more.
    Or just grab a cheap XM off eBay 6 months after the fact.
     
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    by the time games will lag due to 4700qm "bottlenecking" 780m your entire notebook will be ready for replacement.

    Sent from my HUAWEI Y300-0100 using Tapatalk
     
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    Well better upgrade now. There's always 2 sides of a coin and your failing to realize that 780m can be upgraded down the road. I started off with a 3610qm. Arma 2 at the time didn't run great. I upgraded.. Voila. Crysis 3 didn't mind the upgrade either.
    And that's about it. Cost me about $350 after I sold my 3610qm 6 months ago. Worth every penny to me. Necessary for most games.. Heck no. Future proof, yes.
    Will a 4700 bottleneck a 780 in games? For the most part no.
     
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    So...I have been reading...my friend is a pro overclocker who helped me to overclock my gpu unlocking my vbios and editing it's settings..we had no problem with that..the only thing was 4700HQ bottleneck the hell out of my gpu..we tried undervolting we tried turning off turbo we tried throttlestop..nothing help..in xtu (intel extreme tuning utility) it would show as cpu throttling %100 randomly..and cpu wasnt even hot..it would be at maybe 70c or 65..temp didnt matter it throttled no matter what...so 4700hq might cause a bit of a nightmare...because i went through it and you might too..i seriously wouldn't recommend a haswell if you are going to overclock...we still couldnt figure out a way to stop the throttle..we editied bios..turned off EIST..and c-states..still no help..at this point we are hopeless.
     
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    What machine does this apply to since the 4700mq is soldered it can't be upgraded anyway.
     
  22. pinoy_92

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    what clocks are u running at? what games are u playing? try using cinebench or benchmark on throttlestop. watch your temps closely while benchmarking to see if u are getting thermal throttling. most games will show cpu usage no where near 90%.