Wait what is the GeForce 9500m?

I think I'm lost in one of Nvidia's number games.

1) What is the GeForce 9500m?
2) I thought the 8800m was the best mobile GPU, but number wise it seems the 9500m would be better?

I'm lost in the number game so if any one wants to assist. Thanks.

 

TYPO? i have not heard anything.

 

No typo check here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9500M.html

 

the 9500M GS is exactly the same as the 8600M GT. If yoi look at the actual tech specs, they are the same card with a new model branding on it that makes everyone think its so much better, its not though.

 

This was being discussed in another thread somewhere. Something to do with the 9500 using less power :. longer battery life and less heat.

 

same clocks... just newer tech.

9500M GS = 8600M GT


just the newer counterpart, and not necessarily faster.

 

ok that's interesting. thanks!

 

you must note that the model numbers are more of generation codes.

having a 9-series card does not mean it is better than the 8-series or 7-series. it just notes newer generation (probably with drastic alterations on the chip).the first number of nVidia's model numbers seperate them as a group.

first number:
nVidia 7xxx
nVidia 8xxx

**the 7xxx being the latest cards to support dx9.
**the 8xxx being the cards to first support dx10.


the second number seperates each card by performance.

second number:
nVidia 73xx
nVidia 76xx
nVidia 79xx

**73xx are the entry-level cards.
**76xx are the mid-range cards.
**79xx are the high-performance cards.


lastly, the third and fourth combination which comes in either xx00 or xx50. the xx50 (like the 7950GTX) is actually a revamped version of its xx00 counterpart (the 7900GTX), but does not necessarily mean it offers a big leap in technology. as of now, the 8-series does not have the xx50 combo.

fourth/fifth number:
nVidia 7900GTX
nVidia 7950GTX


so the numbers do not suggest how it performs. 7600 and 8600 may perform the same, if not slightly better. same goes to other cards bearing the same second number (x6xx).

remember that the best cards of each gen bear the numbers 8 or 9 (x8xx or x9xx).


hope that helps you with numbers.

 

the suffixes denote how powerful the card is in respect to cards with the same numbers in front. the weakest is GS, followed by GT, GTS, GTX and G(T)X2 (which means it's two GPU's on one card).

for example, a 8800 GT is weaker than a 8800 GTX, but better than a 8800 GS.

"weaker" and "better" etc. refer to amount/number of VRAM, processors, etc. the more the merrier

 

dont forget guys that the new "9" series cards are using modified versions of 8 series cores the g92 (or something)
the new G200 which is rumoured will be the 9900 is the next big thing apparently
but thats for desktops, they seem to play around with cores for notebooks
i.e. the 8800(m) gtx for laptops is the same core as the 8800 GT for desktops

 

Okay thanks that is very helpful.

 

A very funny scene happened today near my shopping mall which involved the 9500 GS and the 8800GTX...

I was out searching for some new games and then there were this seller, who uses a megaphone, to promote their brand new notebook infront of their store. The notebook was Asus M50sv BTW.

He said, with proud and loud, "Here we have a very HIGH-END Gaming notebook from our best manufacturer Asus, The whole new m50sv which uses a HIGH-END graphic card and very new in the market, the 9500GS a 512mb card which has the capability to play ALL type of games and the highest setting. The 9500GS is the FASTEST and the most POWERFUL CARD in the entire gaming world and will perform much more than you can imagine and you can get it for a very very low price!! "

Many people gathered infront of the guy, and he keep on stressing about how powerful the 9500GS is and how the card can get all games to highest setting, how cheap it is on the asus notebook and bla bla bla... so I was bored and tried to ask a few question about the notebook seeing that his appearance seems professional with the tie and the glasses... I ask him:

"Is the notebook graphic card even MORE powerful than the Nvidia 8800m GTX? " and his answered was that, "Yes! this card is the most powerful of them all, hence the number of the product 9500 which is above of the 8800! " yup he said it with a big smile on his face... and a thumbs up at the Yes! part...

I was like thinking," H-O-L-Y C-R-A-P, is this guy stupid or what." And so being a good customer, i just shut my mouth and went away...

2 hours later i came passing back and there was a ruckus near the IT shop. Involving the Sales person with another guy who was piss off about the graphic card matter...

Apparently this another guy have a dell XPS notebook, the 17" that hold SLI 8800GTX and he tell the seller that the SLI version of 8800GTX is much more powerful than the 9500GS. The seller keep on saying, no no no no while the other guy kept on insisting yes yes yes yes... and they argue about it and then it turned into a big fight!!!

p/s: sorry if i wrote it long.. its just a very funny scene that i cant get my mind off... hehehehee...

 

heh yeah I've seen a lot of confusion regarding the 9500 and the 8800. A surprising number of self-help tech sites rate the 95 as better as the 88

btw terek, you say in your sig that you will get a m860tu as it supports the future (powerful) 9-seies. For the record, the m15x will also be equally likely to support the 9-series as they both have the same MXM-HE connector (not trying to dissuade you from getting the m860tu, I'm just saying)

 

Moments Like those are just priceless. :laugh:

 

This issue has been discussed to the death so I'll just paste my old response to the last time this was brought up:

The 9500M GS might not be a drastic rise over the present 8 series, but it does provide some minor improvements over the 8600M GT DDR2. Being a die shrink it does run significantly cooler. Also performance-wise 3dmark06 scores have shown that it scores at average 10% higher than the 8600M GT DDR2. So although it's not a large leap from existing technology available it does provide some improvements for the sake of Nvidia releasing a so called "new" products for a new year. For more information and tests on the 9500M GS check this link:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...GS.8167.0.html

So in a nutshell the 9500M GS is based on the existing technology of the 8600M GT and only provides minor improvements which are in no way a suitable means for an upgrade if you already own a 8600M GT.

 

but of course, it still depends sometimes...

the old 8800GTS (320MB, 320-bit) is not necessarily faster than the 8800GT. the new 8800GTS (G92) however is the new "GTS" card in the 8-series that is faster than the GT.

GS cards are the cut-down versions (or the stripped versions) of the chip. they are the cheapest versions of the group.

the GT, GTS, GTX, and the GX2 are the higher end cards. the first two being the ones to demonstrate the new features of the group, though sometimes a bit stripped down, either by clocks, or bandwidth. often times, the chips are different when compared to the higher-end like the GTX and GX2 (you can also include the Ultra).





"the more the merrier" is true... but make sure when you compare numbers, you compare models in the same number series.

a 1GB old card cannot perform as well as the newer cards with only 256MB. it is more reasonable to compare numbers within the same group (like two cards from the 8-series, rather than a card from the 7-series and the other from the 8-series).







don't you think I deserve a rep? lol

**that's desktop stuff... now anybody there to help me with my laptop?

 

about the 9500M GS and the 8600M GT:

both perform identically. the first number being 9 and 8 does not mean anything, except stating that the latter is the older version. you can't actually say that the 8400M GS is way faster than the 7950GTX?! lol


some guys are just confused with nVidia's number scheme. they base the performance of the card on it's first, then second, then the last combination of numbers, instead of looking at the second number to determine the card's capability.


first number: generation of card

second number: performance of card

third/fourth combo: updates and/or minor tweaks

the letter combination: version of the same card (either stripped down or not)

 

LOLOLOLOL

Sometimes sales people dont know crap about what they are selling

 

the guys at best buy here in Westminster, CA know what they're talking about...

good for them.

 

so is the difference between those (for example, 8800GT and 8800GTX) is noticeable??

 

8800GTX is a good 10-20% better than the 8800GT, but both cards are high-end performance beasts that will easily outclass lesser 8-series brethren.

 

think of each series number as a different kind of car. then the letters are the trim variations.

example:

8600-series = some family compact sedan

8800-series = probably an Evo IX

GTS = RS
GT = vanilla
GTX = MR

 

This just goes to show you: the uninformed consumer is the ripped-off consumer.

 

that's why this forum is here... to inform the uninformed.

 

wow, really!? i wonder when will they support!! cant wait, it would be great if they graphic card can upgrade!!!

 

hmm how about the 8600mGT with DDR3 memory? Anything improved over the 9500m?

 

the 9500m GS = 8600m GT DRR2. So the 8600m GDDR3 outperforms it.