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    Warning To All Overclockers/Gamers

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by lappyftw, Jul 4, 2010.

  1. lappyftw

    lappyftw Notebook Guru

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    Have a good time people,

    I just find out that,all the stability tests done with furmark,orthos or all other cpu/gpu stress programs are not well enough to trust.Let's say you have a ati 5650 gpu or another, the core clock is 550,the memory is 800.You do increase all by 50MHz all,and you of course then check if your card is stable with this overclock,also the temperture is.That is what usually is done.

    1-Gpu/Cpu is overclocked.
    2-A stability test is done.
    3-After conforming that everything is stable and the cool refering to stability test,now all games can be played maintaining the overclock temperture.

    But going through this way,you are not safe.

    Even you confirm that your gpu does not run hot by testing it with furmark,etc.

    You can not KNOW if it is going to maintain that "cool" temperture.

    There are many factors that effect the gpu temperture,such as dust,fan,ambient temperture,and BIOS,fan spinning time.

    So,I warn you.

    If you overclock your gpu/cpu and if it is stable and cool,in a day,instantly it can overheat.

    So everybody,when ever you overclock a gpu/cpu,do not trust the stability test.You can never know if your cpu/gpu will maintain the safe tempertures while overclocked or not.

    So always,use rivatuner,or another utility if there is to display your gpu temperture while in game.I think fraps may be another option,It displays the cpu temperture while in game as I remember.

    So I strongly recommand displaying the cpu/gpu temperture,so you will be %100 safe while gaming.It is just a tip from me.Have fun!
     
  2. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    chill out.
     
  3. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Seriously, dude...I think it's pretty much given that anyone who knows how to overclock also has the common sense to keep an eye on their temperatures and dust their fans out.
     
  4. smokinokie

    smokinokie Notebook Consultant

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    100% safe while gaming? There are other inherent dangers while gaming besides temps. Such as eye strain, carpal tunnel syndrome, sleep deprivation and even the random asteroid crashing onto your house. I suggest gaming while far underground in a tin foil lined cave.
     
  5. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    While it's certainly a good idea to keep an eye on temperatures over time to make sure the dust doesn't build up the temps too much or an asteroid doesn't suddenly rise the temperatures in your neighborhood by 20ºC, I think you've inadvertantly hit on something more dangerous. Namely, increasing the clock by 50 MHz at a time. That's a lot! If you were 5 MHz below what your card could safely handle before, now you're 45 MHz over what your card can handle - more than 5% above. While you may be able to get away with a 50 MHz increase over stock clocks, it would be foolish to keep increasing by 50 MHz. I usually increase by 10 MHz or 5 MHz so that if I were to go over the safe limit, it would be by a small margin.

    It does take a bit longer, but unless you have a locked FSB and are overclocking your CPU, I'd recommend increasing by a lower amount.

    I usually just use a background monitor myself rather than one I view in-game; I keep my temperatures below the threshold by enough that it's quite unlikely it would raise by 20º during one game, assuming no asteroid strikes.
     
  6. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Your Mad, Never Overclock Your Card By 50mhz An Increment,
    5Mhz a pop is safe :p

    And your games don't tax like furmark does,

    So you should be ok, granted hardware is all very different,

    My 4850 can't game overclocked, and only in extreme cool conditions can i get bench runs in.
     
  7. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    +1
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  8. daranik

    daranik Notebook Deity

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    This guy most have had a bad experience LOL .
     
  9. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    xD brilliant
     
  10. swell9

    swell9 Notebook Guru

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    I think you should give the guy credit and chill out yourself a bit.
    Can't anybody see him as someone giving advice! Not everybody is experienced like you.
     
  11. spaghetticheese

    spaghetticheese Notebook Smasher

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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
     
  12. Histidine

    Histidine Notebook Deity

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    And then your GPU overheats, you BSOD, you restart, you open up your overclocking utility, and you lower your clocks again.

    Right? Granted, I don't overclock, and I habitually monitor CPU/GPU temps w/ HWMonitor, but I've never seen temps look fine one day then shoot up to dangerous levels the next.
     
  13. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    Yeah just a bit. I could see if he was a troll. But it appears that the guy might have had a bit of badluck in the OC dept. and wanted to vent. Now everyone is out for blood.

    Honestly though, overclocking is somewhat hard to monitor on the GPU's memory temperature. This, I have found, to be the Achilles heel for OC potential.
     
  14. Nick

    Nick Professor Carnista

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    Um, I believe ever single overclocking guide on NBR, warns that it may overheat, and hurt you laptop.

    I agree, chill out.
     
  15. E30kid

    E30kid Notebook Deity

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    lol.

    If you can follow an OCing guide, but can't read the big parts about how it could fry some components if you don't watch stuff, you need to learn a lesson.
     
  16. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    ah internet memes.
     
  17. E30kid

    E30kid Notebook Deity

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    The ED article on it is quite comprehensive and informative.
     
  18. Sirhcz0r

    Sirhcz0r Notebook Deity

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    This is also highly dependent on how much power the gpu consumes, and how good the cooling is. I find often times that with anything less than what would be called an "enthusiast gpu", you reach unstable clocks much faster than unsafe temperatures.
     
  19. MahmoudDewy

    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    As weird as it may sound but that never stopped anyone from gaming .... at least me :D
     
  20. Satyrion

    Satyrion Notebook Deity

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    dude whats this stuff? Whatever it is i think i got it
     
  21. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    All I have to say is that you should be ok, because when your GPU hits the critical temp (usually 105C) your notebook will turn off.
     
  22. lappyftw

    lappyftw Notebook Guru

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    I am just trying to give advice.I never failed in overclocking,I just wrote this information to help,because for safer overclocking.

    So for people,who bully,be disrespectfull to me,

    I have a question for you.

    What would happen if you overclock a gpu,test it with furmark and run a game?You think will it run cool as the furmark test?Definetly no if the cpu and gpu are in the same heatsink,that is why I am giving this small advice.Testing the stability of gpu by furmark does not approve the gpu will run in the same temperture while gaming.

    Sometimes,I can not understand people in this forum.Just be respectfull when I post something,I do not post things only for myself.
     
  23. Manic Penguins

    Manic Penguins [+[ ]=]

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    Thanks for the advice lappy, although this information is fairly common sense it's invaluable to people who are new to gaming on a laptop. And BTW, you will find the people here are a little critical/elitist so just be warned. Judging by the time & effort you put into the post I think you will become a valued member of the community!

    :)
     
  24. swell9

    swell9 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah. Some members have too much pride. :realmad:
     
  25. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    see, if you just wrote that instead, i would have just agreed. but you sounded crazy in the op.
    chill out.
     
  26. sean473

    sean473 Notebook Prophet

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    chill dude... we ocers know what to do...
     
  27. lappyftw

    lappyftw Notebook Guru

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    Not everybody is like you :)
    Some people just dont know how their gpu runs like hell while gaming.

    And writing this,what do you mean?If you know what to do,just you know it and you do not need to write this.Overclocking is not a big accomplishment and you do not get "cool" when you overclock.

    I am trying to help people and instead of respecting or appreciating you just write silly things.Grow up.
     
  28. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    What would have been nice would be to incorporate this into a guide of some sort, but yes, it's common sense to really check your temperatures while OCing. But really then again, it's common sense to check them even if you're not given a laptop's size and form factor :p
     
  29. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    ..then you can always buy a laptop that has a factory Turbo button..at least for the CPU. Now OC is covered under warranty ;)

    I think the biggest problem are people begging for help on doing blind flashing..unless they are successful it can be an expensive brick.
     
  30. lappyftw

    lappyftw Notebook Guru

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    Can failed/bricked motherboard and graphics bios be restored?Is that possible?

    I think it is possible to restore graphics bios but not the motherboard.
     
  31. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have full control of my temperatures and CPU speed and GPU speed in my small nifty LCD screen on my XPS M1730, No need for any on screen temperature measurement here, thank you very much :)
     
  32. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    High temps are a danger even if you run at stock clocks or even undervolt. :(
    Just make sure that you use a notebook cooler and check for dusty fans.
     
  33. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Overclocking is not dangerous unless you know what to do. One simple thing like raising the notebook in the back can make a huge difference i temperatures also keeping the system clean and open it up from time to time will keep your notebook alive for a long time.

    I have had my XPS M1730 overclocked for over 2 years with zero problems also my GPU´s are heavily overclocked from stock 500/1250/800 to 640/1600/950, these GPU´s are crazy overclockers. This comes from a desktop overclocker too since I started overclocking desktops before buying notebooks.
     
  34. Manic Penguins

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    Lolwut????
     
  35. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think I described it really well above, taking care of your system and knowing the limits, stress testing the components etc etc. I would say even to go "as far" as replacing the compound on either CPU or GPU. These basic things you should now before jumping on overclocking a notebook. Overclocking a desktop is a whole different thing since you have much more headroom doing so and far better cooling.
     
  36. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    he's refering to your double negative.
     
  37. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    I was referring to the GPU, but yes they can usually be restored if you have the proper GPU file and know which key combo to run it. There are some guys who did great work helping others with bricked 7900GS on Dells.
     
  38. IIIM3

    IIIM3 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    First off, you have terribllleee grammar...

    Secondly, when a computer user overclocks, he/she knows the risk on overheating and such. No need to repeat what we all already know
     
  39. Amnesiac

    Amnesiac 404

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  40. MidnightSun

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    Okay, I think this thread has gone as far is it can go in terms of usefulness. The OP's message has been heard, and many opinions, whether agreeing or otherwise, have been heard. Thread closed.