Wat video card should i chose ? Plz help me

plz help me !
i dunno wat should i chose ! Which run stabler than ?

1 : NVIDIA 9300M 256MB ( ThinkPad SL400 )
2 : NVIDIA 8600M GT 256MB ( Dell XPS 1530 )
3 : NVIDIA 9600M GT 512MB ( HP HDX16tx series )


Thx for ur help !

 

definitely the second or third choice, if you want one that is good for gaming, between those two its pretty much whichever laptop you like better, the 9600M isnt much better than the 8600, especially if its the DDR2 version, so between them you would wanna base it off of other options and build style. I have the xps and i love it and the card is great, o and dont base your choice off of amount of VRAM cause even at 512MB the 9600 is still only a 128bit card so it cant even utilize much more than the 256 of the other card.

 

9600M GT. It makes no sense whatsoever to go with the 8600M GT. Why would you want to buy older hardware when the new one is out for nearly the same price?

 

like i said the two cards are very similar in power, so itd be up to personal preference on each laptop, and which laptop you could get better deals on. I know there are a lot of good coupons for like 30% off on the XPS laptop, thats how i got mine.

 

does the 9600 in that system use DDR2 or DDR3 memory? if its DDR2 go with what i said DDR3 u will see some improvement although not a ton with the 9600 so you may wanna go with that.

 

I would go with the 8600m gt if it has gddr3

i know hp only use ddr2(see below) so i would get the hp one

edit: i would get the dell sorry to confuse everyone

 

did you just contradict yourself there? lol u said go with the 8600 if it has DDR3 then said hp uses DDR2 so go with that? But yea the XPS does have DDR3 on the 8600

 

yeah i made a mistake thanks for letting me know. i just fixed it

 

The GDDR2 version of the 9600M is still faster than the GDDR3 8600M GT.

 

barely, its such a small difference you wont notice any real performance difference in gaming and such.

 

I dont understand, why give potentially defective hardware a second thought? That's a complete no-chancer for me. The 9600M has the best specs on that list, successor of the 8600 in the latest series, and roughly the same cost.

No brainer?!

 

Yeah but couple that with possible defective issues with the 8600M and it makes more sense to get the 9600M.

 

lol you beat me to it. My thoughts exactly.

 

people take the 8600 overheatings for much more than they are worth. plenty of people have that card and have never had a problem, and the new ones so far have been fine, including mine which i use for gaming.

 

in that case any video card is potentially defective, at any minute a 9600 could overheat and break too.

 

Yeah the 8600M GT and the 9600M GT won't have a substantial difference(especially if the 9600 is GDDR2) so Id pick between the 2 bottom one depending on other factors in the laptop.

 

Sure, but there's a higher risk for that card. Given all these articles and reviews and forum posts about it messing up, why would you still buy it? That makes no sense...not in a customers eyes anyways. Its natural intuition to steer clear from technology known as highly defective. The 9600M is not bad-mouthed like the 8600M. I don't know about you, but when I read enough amount of articles be it forum posts or blog posts about something messing up, I tend to kind of take it as advice on my future purchases. What are the reasons to get the 8600M anyway? How much money do you save that's worth it again?

 

this is information of laptop !

Dell XPS1530
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB, 3MB Cache)
Genuine Windows Vista ® Home Premium Edition SP1
Glossy, widescreen 15.4inch LCD (1280x800) & 2.0 MP
4GB1 Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms)
Size: 320GB2 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT

HP :
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8400 (2.26 GHz)
Display 16.0" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1366x768)
3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Graphics card 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT edit
Hard drive 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection

Wat should i buy ?

 

ive just been hearing stories about games always freezing with the 9600 so i guess thats a defective card too and no one should buy that. honestly, like its been said before the gpus are very similar to decide on other factors which laptop to get, i personally just dont like the laptop build style of HP and that led me to the xps which is very nice and solid.

 

Yeah sure, stories. Not hundreds of articles. Guess the 9600M wins here. Whatever, its your fried lap.

Now computer-wise, I'd jump on the 1530 any second. Unfortunately, its a tough choice knowing it has that card in it. If it comes with a warranty get the 1530 if you want.

 

personally i still say the dell, but if you can bump the processor up to the T8300 for very little extra cost, and like i said there are plenty of good coupons going around for that laptop now

 

so plz tell me i should buy Hp or Dell . All of them is 1050$, All I have T_T

i dunno wat should i chose coz my uncle tell me dell run better than HP . but the video card of HP is better than Dell T_T

 

not really, hundreds of articles? probably of the same people complaining about the video card, like i said i have heard tons of people have that card and never have a problem, drop that factor and help the person pick a laptop on something besides that, because performance wise the gpus are almost the same.

 

Id say go to a store like Best Buy or something and look at the laptops first hand and get a feel of both of them and see which you like better. The specs are very similar besides a slightly bigger HDD and a little more RAM in the dell. Do u like 16 inch notebooks? they are fairly new you may want to see one up close.

 

if you think the dell is better in other things that the hp than go with that, cause despite what others are saying the video card really isnt better, and any improvement it has is minuscule. Its not like the HP has DDR3 in the gpu, if that was the case id say yes u will notice the 9600 to be better but thats not the case. Look online for coupons for it too i guarantee u can bring the price down a little more, i know there are plenty of people on the xps forum who could show you the deals theyve gotten on them and where to get good coupons

 

Go with the HP. Not only do you get a newer card but you get the new Montevina platform too. Not a huge difference but it is newer technology and there's really no reason to be buying something older for the same price, whether the performance is similar or not.

 

If your buying them at the same price i would say consider both, but if you are able to bring the xps down in price cheaper than the HP then there is no contest.

 

I'd buy the Thinkpad, build quality wise. The cards are all either fairly crappy OR will overheat (esp the HP) imo. Better yet, get the Thinkpad with an ATI card.

 

while the thinkpad is very good quality, the 9300 in it will show significantly less performance power than either of the other two cards

 

I think he's referring to a T500 Thinkpad since he mentioned ATI. That would certainly be a good alternative, especially with one of their nice coupons.

 

Im pretty sure just as Dell cant wait to get rid of zombie 1530s with coupons, HP also has coupons which can lower the price on that 16.

 

i has just look for thinkpad but it use ATI i think it is not better than NVIDIA
Right or wrong ? plz help me ! thanks u so much !

 

yes the xps is an older laptop than that HP one so you are more likely to find better coupons for the xps, just cause it is older doesnt make it a bad laptop, especially if you can lower the price. We should probably stop our bickering though as i feel it is just confusing him more than helping.

 

The HD 3650 would perform about the same as a 8600M GT with GDDR3 or a 9600M GT with GDDR2.

 

which card are you looking at to compare it to the 8600/9600?

edit: o ok yea if its the 3650 then yea its gonna be about the same as those two, its not a bad card at all.

 

Let's see...

Faster, newer tech, less power consuming processor: HP
Faster graphics card: HP
RAM: Draw, unless the XPS is 64-bit
Display Res: HP
Hard Drive: XPS

It's an HP win for me.

 

i noe maybe i annoy u !
coz i have so many choice !
i noe IBM and Dell is better than HP
the first time i think NVIDIA is better than ATI.
but i have only 1100$ , its my troublem !
if i chose HP i think its big ( 16' )
then i dunno wat shuold i buy

 

Wait, this is what you're buying?

It's $200 off, plus a free upgrade to 3GB of RAM and a free Blu-ray drive!

Plus fingerprint reader, Wireless N, Webcam... You'd be crazy to choose the Dell over this deal.

 

what is "this" you're talking about, your link leads to a page that doesnt exist anymore, and most laptops now have webcams and fingerprint readers lol

 

I don't know why it's not showing the page. It should be going to the configuration page for the HP laptop.

Full link: http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/c...mpid=in_r329_personalization/browse1/home_SDP

It's easily outclassing the Dell. I'm not sure why you're adamantly defending the m1530 here.

 

I am a 1530 nut! But I hate to admit, that HP looks so much better...up close the sides really look metal...

 

i just dont like design and quality of HP laptops, ive had troubles with them in the past.

 

I wouldn't recommend HP.My friend is using a HP pavilion and that laptop was is terrible. After a year, the laptop start to have overheating issue. The CPU's temp went past 100 Celsius degrees.

 

Well I've heard stories from both HP and Dell. No company is completely free from the occasional bad experience now and then. From a technical point of view, they generally all get their parts from the same places/providers so the hardware issues are mostly going to pop up due to manufacturer mistakes more than the company themselves. Also, the larger the company, the more chances of this happening since statistically speaking, you have a larger customer base, so therefore a larger % of people who can have bad experiences and complain! lol

That speech aside, I think it's a matter of opinion for the OP. He doesn't mention the other specs of the laptops he's looking at so we're mostly basing our decisions on our personal preferences of each brand.

 

great point, you're right on the ball.

 

just get a 9800m gs

 

Don't get the xps... "someone" just wants you to get it because they have one... which at least "they're" happy with it, consider it only if the price is significantly less and that is very important to you... no point in buying old technology, especially with how fast computers upgrade and become obsolete. yeah if you wanna game, go to best buy and pick up that new asus with the 9800m GS i think its $1250!

 

for your opinion, i couldnt care less what computer someone gets and it really wont make any difference to me if someone gets the laptop i have, i am just stating facts about the quality of laptops since ive owned hp laptops in the past and choice to switch to dell which id say was a great change, asus laptops are good for gaming, although id never buy a laptop from best buy be it a dell hp or asus, i just wouldnt get one from them, if you want an asus get one from asus, but between the ones youve shown the dell is the best proven laptop, despite what people say about the video cards, and i guarantee of all the people who have that laptop more people have not had problems with the laptop than those who have, and you can quote me on that.

 

i had an asus that was on sale for 1250 a few months ago that came with a 9700 GT and it was great for gaming but it got a little hot for me and had a button on it that was continually on even when the laptop was completely off which was constantly draining the battery even if a tiny bit which led me to return it, but other than that it was a great performing laptop for gaming, so if you are willing to spend a little more definitely get an asus with a better gpu than both the hp and dell xps, just dont get it from best buy, it may be a tiny cheaper from them but you get a dumbed down version of the real one from asus and the warranty from Best Buy sucks compared to Asus's