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    What DirectX 10 will do

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Alright, this is absolutely breathtaking, and . .well, see for yourself:
    http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=8586

    Sorry, it's a pain to get to the actual download of the video itself, and it is on the big size at 55MB, but well worth it.

    DirectX 10 is going to be a huge step-up from DX9 (which we have been on for far too long) today.

    Enjoy it!

    Chaz
     
  2. Amol

    Amol APH! NBR Reviewer

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    You might want to check this out too.
     
  3. dello

    dello Notebook Geek

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    WOW! DX10 looks awesome! wonder when it will come out??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Also will DX10 work with the Xpress200M ???

    (just asking dont blow up please!!!)
     
  4. Darbyjack

    Darbyjack Notebook Evangelist

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    of course not!

    X200 is a low low low end graphics card. I don't think it even supports dx9
     
  5. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Hurray...great idea to have a laptop with the 7800GTX...
     
  6. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    No guys - none of the cards today will be able to do what you saw there - that's DirectX 10. The new technology for the DirectX 10 hardware-based cards when they come out. You can't have anything close to that with the current DirectX 9-based cards today.

    Chaz
     
  7. A.C.

    A.C. Notebook Enthusiast

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    Chaz, you aren't entirely correct. Sorry if i can't post any sources the internet here is really slow today.
     
  8. blitz1911

    blitz1911 Newbie

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    nope


    chaz is 100% correct

    DX10 will not work with ANY current GPU's as in none of the dx10 effects will actually work, its liek how you canstill use a Geforce 2 and run dx9 now but none of th dx9 effects are actualy procesed by the GPU
     
  9. Flame X

    Flame X Notebook Geek

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    When is dx10 coming out?
     
  10. Phil17

    Phil17 Notebook Consultant

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    DX10 will only be supported by cards coming out in the fall(approximate). Chaz is absolutely correct, none of todays cards will support it. It is the software that uses it, for example running a newer game on a DX8.1 card.
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Another part I should mention is that DirectX 10 will only work and be avaliable for Windows Vista. The link that zoXan posted is a good read, and gives a nice overview of DX10.

    Chaz
     
  12. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    very cool..i saw this on a crytek movie a looooooooong time ago, but now its starting to pop again...cant wait.

    pb,out.
     
  13. Barrok

    Barrok Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok Vista includes directx 10, so to have all the features you want to have a directx 10 card. Vista will work with directx 9.0 cards I think, but it has to use software emulation to be backward compatible. I am waiting for a directx 10 card for my desktop, windows xp will be fine for the laptop! :)
     
  14. pbcustom98

    pbcustom98 Goldmember

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    finally...a reason to upgrade my 7800gtx SLI...yay!

    ugh more money being spent..lol

    pb,out.
     
  15. Darbyjack

    Darbyjack Notebook Evangelist

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    looks amazing!

    Direct X 10 will render the next-gen game consoles obselete!
     
  16. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Current PC graphics already do that. :p

    I probably won't upgrade my computer until DX10 is readily avaliable and the technology has matured a bit.

    Chaz
     
  17. cycloneguy2618

    cycloneguy2618 Notebook Deity

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    Oblivion on the PC looks better than on the 360 if you have the right card.
     
  18. pbcustom98

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    agreed. i love the way it looks.

    pb,out.
     
  19. kierkegaard

    kierkegaard Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree the PC is having no problems keeping up with the 360 as of right now and from what I expect of the PS3 it should be comparable. Unless, of course, one buys the Sony hype. However, I still think Crysis looks almost as good as MGS4 and MGS4 isn't playable yet...

    It used to be that the consoles had a leg up on the PC for at least a year maybe 2 or 3. That no longer seems to be the case. However, it would be hard to argue that you get less value out of a console. It costs less (quite a bit less in my opinion) to buy a 3-400 dollar console and have it last 5-6 years than build/upgrade a comp every 2 or 3.

    I am still going to buy a PS3 for that very reason and to play sports games and last but not least, MGS4 *drool*
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    Yep, the DLLs have been rewritten, you will only be able to use it with a card with HARDWARE support for DX10. Vista will also come with an updated version of directx 9 so it will use either depending on the installed hardware I assume.
     
  21. Darbyjack

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    I wonder how much it will cost to buy a DX10 GPU that can smoothly play graphic intense games like the cyrolisis one in the video
     
  22. Phil17

    Phil17 Notebook Consultant

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    They will be expensive when they come out. Remember the geforce3? It is going to be like this, maybe even more expensive.
     
  23. pbcustom98

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    well figure the flagship card for nvidia/ati is around what...500-600 usd..and these CANT utilize DX10...sheesh..ill start saving for SLI, for Q1 2007...haha

    pb,out.
     
  24. kierkegaard

    kierkegaard Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah my when I said 400 that was a very conservative estimate. I can easily seeing these types of cards being 600 dollars.
     
  25. xAMDvsIntelx

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    The prices of the cards will fall after the first 6 months to 1 year after the release of Vista/DX10. I won't go to Vista until the first SP or is proven to not have bugs in the first release - until then its good old XP for me.
     
  26. blitz1911

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    considering a 7900GTX costs $499 and that was a massive price drop, the cards should be $600+
     
  27. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Keep in mind that there will be different classes of video cards just as there are today, so the price ranges will vary.

    Chaz
     
  28. Meseria

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    seems the best time would be to upgrade your PC in summer of 07, hopefully there will be some older DX10 cards u can get and do SLI and still end up cheaper than 1 top end card
     
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    Wow, can I have that crystal ball of yours? :p
     
  30. Phil17

    Phil17 Notebook Consultant

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    The next gen is always more expensive than the cards of today, at least when they first come out. I guess you are lucky if you see anything below $600.
     
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    9500pro was launched at the same time as the 9700, shared the same feature set, was a mid range priced card.

    6600GT, launched with the 6800U, same feature set, outperformed the 9800pro by enough for it to be the better choice.

    7600GT, performance similar to a 6800U, same feature set as the 7900GTX and costs £150-160.

    3 examples, I could list more.
     
  32. Phil17

    Phil17 Notebook Consultant

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    All of those were still in the same tech level. The new cards will not only be DX10, but will probably also have shader 4.0. This is what will make them expensive. The prices will go down after a few months.
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

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    Yeah the 9500 was one of the first DX9 cards and the 6600 was one of the first with SM3, so what are you going on about?
     
  34. tay

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    So anyone who just bought a "new" card - ie x1600 / 7800GTX whatever - is totally wasted for next gen games (as in, 6 months)?

    that is a total bust in the laptop industry
     
  35. Phil17

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    That is not what i meant. I meant that next gen cards are always expensive at first.
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    To say new generation is pointless, to say new generation highend is correct.
     
  37. kierkegaard

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    No they just won't be DX10 compatible. I would think most games that come out for the next 3 years will have DX9 compatibility and like COD2 all it takes is a click of the mouse to change it. They are trying to make money off their games remember? They aren't going to make games that only 1/10 of the computer population will be able to play.
     
  38. pbcustom98

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    take EQ2..anyone who plays it..most likely had to upgrade their computer to play it...if they didnt, then they were plagued with slow performance, or they didnt play it.

    im not sure if they will make it "DX9 compatible"..the difference between DX9 and DX10...just look at the pictures..it is a HUGE step foward...if you turn everything off, then the game is a barebones version, and no eye candy..just like it is now (dx7)...im in the middle on this one..not sure if they will, or if they wont..

    pb,out.
     
  39. Elminst

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    And just because the DX10 tech is released this fall, doesn't mean we'll necessarily see tons of games built with it at the same time. There will probably be at least a few, so that those manufacturers can fuel the fire of the new tech. But it is very likely that the really good games won't be out until months later, after the new tech is tried and tested. By that time, the prices will have dropped significantly.

    Slightly off topic, have you all seen the articles on the new stuff nvidia is doing with SLI? Use one of the GPUs as a dedicated coprocessor for graphics, to offload from the CPU.
     
  40. Goronok

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    Id think it would be safe to say that if you bought a laptop recently, or plan on buying one in the near future... it would be getting time to replace it when dx10 is in full force. DX9 took FOREVER to get rolling. (and DX9 was a minor upgrade from 8.1, compared to what 10 will change from 9) Dx9 was literally a dead piece of software the first 6-12mo it was around. I remember installing dx9 back in the day and then moving back to 8.1 because 9 was a worthless piece of **** :p ... now, DX9 will be the version of choice for a good length of time after 10 is released.
     
  41. pbcustom98

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    i would also have to agree with Goronok..in order for DX10 to work, the games must be programmed for it..that will take time, and when DX10 is released, im expecting only a few games that will be DX10 specific at first..after 6 months or so, i would expect to see many more games, and the transition will start to occur.

    pb,out.
     
  42. Notebook Solutions

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    Crysis is a DX10 game... it is of Far Cry... I bet millions of games will follow... Think about Battlefield etc.

    Charlie-Peru :)