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    What game can X300 64MB handle?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by hkchewy, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. hkchewy

    hkchewy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Everyone

    I want to get a rough idea of how many new games I can play with this card, I want to play Doom3 or related game, can it handle the game alright?
     
  2. Dustin Sklavos

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    It'll struggle really badly with Doom 3. Theoretically, if you knock Doom 3 down to its lowest settings, disable a few features, and then crank details all the way down in your Control Panel, you can play it. But an X300 really isn't satisfactory for that game.
     
  3. Mr.Happy

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    Not very many. I would recommend upgrading to a better GPU. Are you buying a new laptop soon or do you have that carda and wondering what games it can play? IF you are buying a new laptop, what is ur price range?
     
  4. Eliwood

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    It can play the best games at the lowest settings (or sometimes medium) at playable frame rates but not much more. It actually does fairly decently on Half-Life 2 but less so with Doom III. For less intensive games, it will do just fine.
     
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    As others have said before, the X300 really isn't made for gaming especially with the 64MB memory configuration. It will do a little better with 128MB of dedicated RAM but the limit is really the gpu. You could pair up 1GB of dedicated RAM with the X300 and it still wouldn't do that good. If you are getting a new notebook then I recomend going with another option unless gaming is not your top priority. If you want to be able to play current games at better settings and some future games then go with a different gpu or maybe even a different notebook.
     
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    hkchewy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the reply

    I brought the laptop already, it is Fujitsu N3510, I just want to ask because I find a Doom 3 for 20 USD, so I want to ask if it is playable before I brought it, thx.

    After all, I don't want to get addicted to games, haha.

    So I am not a gamer.
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    DOOM3 on an X300? Well, you'd probably be able to play it on 800x600 res maybe with medium or low settings...

    Probably wouldn't matter if your X300 had 128MB anyway, you can't turn the settings high enough in games to make use of that amount of memory.
     
  8. otaku

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    I have an old nvidia 440 go 64mb and can play UT 2004 and others but yeah you will have trouble with doom and others
     
  9. Tonic

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    Counter Strike Source:
    @ 1024x768 with everything at high, fps at about 60-75 in dust2 feels same as my 9800pro desktop.
    @ 1400x1050 with everything at medium, fps at about 30-50 in dust2, harder to frag.

    WoW
    @ 1024x768 with everything at high, no frame skip in most instances, lags alot in org.

    edit: PentiumM 1.86, 1GB ram, 7200rpm HD and 64mb X300
     
  10. dejauas

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    Doom3
    @ 1024x768 with details at high,everything on except AA fps at about 25.It runs very nice

    IBM r52 PentiumM 1.73, 512 ram,5400rpm HD and 64mb X300
     
  11. dr_st

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    Interesting. But FPS tends to vary in games. Just for reference, could you tell me your framerate at the very beginning of the game? To see it, start a new game and skip all intro cutscenes. You should end up on a platform with a soldier in front of you. How many FPS do you get there at the above settings?
     
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    In the begining i get 20-22 fps
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

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    That does not seem very playable to me...I would take the resolution down to 640x480, or at least put the settings on Medium.

    As a gamer, I shoot for 40-50FPS. Everything else, especially 30 or less (30 is the minimum framerate for 'smoothness') seems choppy to me. To you, since you're playing with sub-30FPS, anything over that would be smooth as can be. Lowering the resolution will really make a difference.
     
  14. dr_st

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    OK. Stuff that I forgot to ask is which drivers you are using and, if you know, what GPU/RAM frequencies are set. I'm trying to get a comparison with my 9600 and for that it's best that the conditions are as similar as you can get.
     
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    Not to 640x480, though. 800x600 is OK, I guess, but I'm not sure I'd rather play at 800x600 at 35FPS over 1024x768 at 25FPS.

    Of course, it's not only a matter of average FPS, but also of minimum FPS. Like, a steady 25FPS would be quite playable, IMO. But an average of 25, which rises to 60 at some spots but drops to 10 at other, crowded spots is not good.
     
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    I`m not a gamer,so min 20 fps is not bad(1024x768 high setings).on resolution 800x600 with high setings i get average 40 fps (min 30).If i turn shadows off it gives me extra 15 fps.So if the question can x300 64mb handle Doom3,i think the answer is yes.I use IBM usual video driver,did not install any catalyst.I bought thinkpad few days ago so i didn`t upgrade any drivers.
     
  17. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Ah, I thought you were already running at 8x6, sorry. I'm surprised you get those FPS running at XGA...an X600 can't do much better. :)

    800x600 at High is very good for an X300.
     
  18. dr_st

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    I tested it with my 9600, and in the first scene I get 12-14FPS. I tried various sets of drivers (IBM default, Mobility Catalyst 5.13, Omega based on Catalyst 5.11) - no effect.

    My clocks (according to ATITrayTool) are GPU: 324MHz, RAM: 209MHz. These are the default settings of the particular card in my T42 - I haven't done any over/underclocking.

    There could be other settings affecting performance, but so according to this lone benchmark it seems that the X300 has got quite an edge on the 9600. Quite opposite to the common opinion.
     
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    I have a ATI mobility 9700,running on Asus W3N centrino 1.6 with 512 of ram,,,can this handle Doom3 or BF2???
     
  20. Charles P. Jefferies

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    From the video card perspective, you should be fine. Just keep the shadows down or off, and if you have 64MB of video memory, put the textures at a lower value so you don't use too much video memory.

    However, seeing you only have 512MB of memory, you'll run out quickly. For BF2, you should have at least 1GB. You will still be able to run on 512, but there will be a lot of jumping around due to the fact that the computer will be using the Page File for RAM.