What is with the hype behind Warhammer Online?

Why are people getting exciting about this game? Based on the wikipedia entry, it doesn't seem to bring anything revolutionary to the MMO genre. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_online

I have heard a lot of people say the PvP in Warhammer is what is getting people pumped up about the game. However, the description from Wikipedia doesn't sound exciting to me:

"WAR features next generation Realm vs. Realm (RvR) combat. This takes place within three different racial pairings: Dwarfs vs. Greenskins, Empire vs. Chaos, and High Elves vs. Dark Elves. Although there are only 2 races per pairing, players may travel to either of the other two pairings to help fight with their friends and allies. There are four types of RvR combat: Skirmishes (random world PvP), Battlefields (object-driven battles in RvR-specific areas), Scenarios (instanced, point-based battles against the opposing faction, with sides evened by NPC "dogs of war"), and Campaigns (invading enemy lands and capital cities). RvR contribution includes both Player vs. Player (PvP) combat and (to a lesser extent) Player vs. Environment (PvE) quests so that you can assist your realm in their victory."

Big deal. Similar pvp options have been offered in other MMOs.

 

I thought I heard one of my friends say they are making some sort of aggro system for PvP. Something to deter people from going after spell castors/healers right away, and ignoring the tank.

 

Thats it?

I know my initial post looks like a flame, but I really do want to know why people are getting excited about this game.

 

I'm not.

(Getting excited, that is.)


8 years ago maybe I would have. Graphically it's poor rendition of WoW.

 

Fanboyism?

If people are fans of the figurines, they will tend to look away from the fact that it brings nothing new to the table and buy it anyway.

It doesn't really matter, just aslong as the game brings solid gameplay to the table. Not all games have to be innovative.

Games that are good but not innovative: HL ep2, UT3 and Resistance: fall of man.

 

True, but the Warhammer fanboys rant about how 'awesome' the pvp in Warhammer is going to be. I am just wondering what about the pvp is supposed to be so 'awesome.' Apparently, not much.

 

Your better off asking that question in a warhammer forum and they'll be able to answer you.

 

In a warhammer forum I would be more likely to get replies from fanboys.

 

And they'll be able to explain why there is so much hype behind Warhammer Online.

They are the most informed about the game so why not go to the source rather than ask a forum that's inclined to the discussion of notebooks. If you have a question wouldn't it be common sense to just go to the area with the people who have the most knowledge of the area? Call them fanboys or whatever but they are the most informed and can answer your question better than anyone here.

 

Hype? What hype? I barely hear about that game, the last time I heard about it was when I was watching that duke nukem ventrilo harassment vid ^^...

 

There was a ton of hype about this game due to the PVP aspect.

But... that was 3 or 4 years ago. This game is LATE to say the least.

Reminds me of Daikatana delay, delay, delay, delay, delivery! and its crap.

Then again, it may be good. But I think most people stopped holding their breath a long time ago. I'll give it a try...

oh yeah, another reason it has a lot of hype... It's warhammer

 

I'm sure the game will do fairly well. WOW is getting old, more and more people are quittting everyday. The growth you're seeing is likely from the chinese market, I know in NA many are just bored of WOW.

Really if you compare the pvp in WAR against WOW you would see it sounds a lot better then what wow currently is. PVP in WOW is boring and repeditive, the PVE is boring and repetitive. WOW has an arena system that's completely unbalanced and caters to cookie cutter combo's. The BG system is the same old system they've had for 3 years now. In 3 years they've "fixed" 1 map (AV) and added 1 new map (EOTS). Terrible.

Over 600K beta apps really isn't bad at all, I think WAR has a fair chance to do well in the industry.

I'll give it a whirl, if it sucks I'll simply move on. I'm not currently playing any mmo's simply because there's nothing worth playing on the market right now.

 

Every MMO is late btw. 3-4 years late...the game hasn't even been in development for 4 years...

They'll be roughly 1 year late if they release on time (based on new estimate) which is just about right for mmorpg's.

 

Well, i'm definitly gonna try it out, a friend of mine told me about it.
What I am looking forward to MOST, is that each race has 4 unique classes.
Not like most other games that have like 8 classes and those are spread on the races.
Furthermore there wont be (as opposed to WoW) Pure Healer Classes/Tank and so on, but everybody will have more than one thing that you are good at.

The rest we will be able to see when the game is finally out. ^^

 

Didn't say it was 3-4 years late. Just said there was a ton of 3-4 years ago.
The development started around 2004. First real word and images got around in early 2005. Original ETA was Q1 2007. We'll be lucky to see it at the end of 08.

I don't mind a game being late... but every new bit I see about the game, impresses me less. Looks like a muddy mashup to me. Very poorly detailed and not from what appears to be an artistic style choice either.

but I am curious to see how many of the 14 or so million WoW players are US based and how the numbers have changed. I personally know many new comers into WoW over the past 6 months. Many more than have left.

Blizz has been working on breaking so much of WoW recently. I still find it fun... but the way blizz keeps going, I don't see there being a good player base in a year.

*edit* what I would love to see is WoW moving to a system like Titan Quest has. Instead of having a warrior or mage, you get to pick 2 branches... which could be a healing branch and a combat branch. Or in WoWs case... pick a holy spell tree and a tank spell tree for a hybrid. Or even a melee and fire spell tree for those who want to do melee and add fire spells to their repertoire of abilities. If you let people choose 3 branches, and took all of WoWs skill trees... that could allow for some really cool flexibility.

 

Warhammer is going to flop...

I honestly hope I am wrong, but from the people I know who have had beta accounts, the game has some very promising features, but no real direction.

Someone needs to feature cap these guys and get them to quality-check what they DO have.

 

Yeah, I have the same feelings. I love the warhammer lore, was a big fan of the tabletop game and the pen and paper rpg.

They're still working on new classes when the game is over a year late. Just doesn't make much sense to me. I think the game would stand a better chance releasing with fewer classes but the game being polished. You can't have a polished game if you're still adding content.

Like I said, I'll definetly give it a try. What's 50 bucks. I'll play out the month, if it's fun i'll subscribe, if it isn't i'll move on.

MMORPG's are in such a hurting state right now. You're options are guild wars (yuk), wow (fun but repeditive and easily bored), and ..well nothing else that's solid.

Vanguard actually wasn't too bad, but with the poor release they've missed their chance.

 

I'm just worried Warhammer will be another Guildwars.

No story, no content, just PVP. :-/

 

I can't stand guild wars. Played for 3 weeks and gave it up. Terrible terrible game.

I really don't understand the attraction.

 

I haven't heard much about the game myself. For me, PVP means COD4 and COH. Woot woot.

I do long for the days of the hack and slash Diablo II. Nothing like multi arrow + amp dmg > cows.

 

Diablo 2 was nice with cow world lol. I used to have a lvl 90 bower with ith bow anf 160//60 armor and 20k guided arrmor damage with poison charms oouu

 

Ok, well i'll give you a few reasons why i think WAR is going to be amazing:

- Yes it contains the standard MMO stuff but also has a lot of new concepts also.

- The public quest system is the first of its kind allowing all people in one area to work at the same quest chain and receive rewards based on the level of input they've provided. Everyone is automatically entered into it upon entering that zone.

- RvR is a very viable way to level up and the only way to gain 'renown', you have your base level and renown level, of which you need both to be high in order to reach the best gear. Also there are RvR zones within each area, higher tier areas have more dominant RvR.

- In PVP there is a contact system meaning you can't run through enemy players, this means your tanks can make a wall infront of your softies to protect them from melee damage.

- Sieges and keeps; these will be targets in RvR zones that can be controlled and give rewards, they become more heavily defended and advanced moving towards end game. Each keep has a lord and NPCs defending it, meaning a single enemy can't just capture it.

- In scenario based gameplay the teams are balanced out using NPC players meaning there's never 1-sided play.

- Cities level up! as you work for your realm your city will grow and level up, as it levels up your realm gains access to new areas within your city, new quests and instances etc.

- You can attack the opposing realm's city, this is not easy but is possible. You can actually burn their city and steal their stuff. The rewards are great and again spread out depending on the level of input given.

- Finally warhammer has 25 years of real history to play with, the storyline is fantastic. The producers actually work with the warhammer guys to make the game realistic and the classes fit with warhammer lore.

There's so much more but these are just a few of the points off the top of my head which i love.

 

The public quest system? That does not sound like a great idea.

Unless they are talking about huge, epic quests. WoW did a few realm wide quests that turned out pretty well. I just don't know how well making all quests public is. But I'll hold off on judgement until I really try that.

I'm curious to see how the balance of PVE and PVP is. I like to do both, but I don't necessarily feel like I should be thrust into PVP against my will when I want to PVE.

I just hope the screenshots aren't indicative of the final quality of the product.

 

Not all quests are public! There's just one per zone. Obviously there's thousands of solo and minor group quests. If you want to get involved then you can all just do it together, if you don't then you can do whatever you like but obviously you won't get any rewards.

WAR is a dominantly PVP game so if you dislike PVP and adore PVE then it's probably not going to be for you! That said you can't access the end game PVP without your realm having advanced in the PVE section as well. The same goes for the other way around.

Current screenshots/videos are beta and so haven't got the cranked up graphics available. They're testing gameplay not graphics atm.

 

Ah... so is it going to a big zone repeatable quest then? Like... 200 people in the zone, quest in 90% done, and you walk in while they finish it, get nothing and it then resets?

I like a balance of PVP and PVE. The biggest problem in WoW is it's broken world PVP. Just not right when you have 70's camping lowbie areas...

Well... I've seen enough games in beta and alpha that haven't had their graphics improve much. The Doom3 alpha was at roughly 75% quality compared to final, and I'd hope these graphics from the screenies are no where near final. Granted, I like gameplay over graphics, but there is a line, and the screenies pass that line.

They better release a demo, thats all i know!

 

haha yeah i hope they release a demo too, from what i heard it was going to have fairly advanced graphics (hopefully something like LOTRO), obviously the textures are more cartoony than LOTRO but detail and quality anyway.

Not quite sure, but the PQs have loads of different parts, when you enter the zone you're automatically entered into the part that the zone is on. If you can get to it fast enough there's no reason why you can't get some rewards!

If you're too high lvl and try to go to a lower level RvR zone you get turned into a chicken, i'm not joking