What would be fair to sacrifice in a laptop

since many cards differ from each other, gonna be more specific with the card


Would you sacrifice CPU, to play 8700m gt(1.83 ghz,500+mb 870ld m)

or would you go for a 2.60 ghz for a 8600GT

i ask this, cause i want to know if it would be fair to get a low CPU, but get the highest possible card.

Would a make a huge difference going from 8600m gt to 8700m gt?

if that would be the case i might as well and get a 8800 gtx with low cpu

 

I would go the 8700m GT with 'low' CPU. Even that the GPU will be the bottleneck.

 

there is difference. look at the scores in 3d.
i would go for 8800gtx with low cpu since i can upgrade cpu but not the gpu

 

cpu is upgradable ?!?!? or are we talking real technical stuff

this is exactly what i am worried about, cause the new toshiba has the 8700 but the cpu is 1.80 so i though it might not be worth and instead pay 500$ more for macbook pro which has 8600 gddr3 but 2.40 cpu

 

If I had to choose for my uses and favorite games, I'd go with 2.6 C2D + 8600M GT over 1.83 GHz C2D with 8700M GT any day. But it is a fair point that the CPU is upgradable (in most laptops) while the CPU is not (again, in most laptops).

I'd say look into what the programs/games that you want to play really demand. Many games demand tons of graphical power and not all that much CPU, in which case the 8700 + T5500 (I think that's the 1.83) is better. But there are also games that are very CPU heavy and not all that GPU heavy. If those games are your favorites, it's better to go 8600 + T7800/T9500.

In other words, without knowing what you plan to run, we can't give you a really good answer.

edit: I don't think I'd pay $500 more for 2.4 vs. 1.8 and 8600 vs. 8700. I was assuming you had near-equal price points based on the opening post. MacBookPro probably isn't the best option financially, especially if you plan to use Windows. It also bears mentioning that, though the MBP does have a good CPU to begin with, it is one of the relatively few notebooks on which the CPU is not upgradable.

 

You might as well go with an 8800 gtx. The 8700 gt offers minimal performance enhancements over the 8600 gt since all it is, is a overclocked 8600 gt.

 

insted of toshiba, go for the gateway in the bestbuy.
great gpu but cpu is bottleneck, but we have forum around here about upgrading the cpu. gateway made it to have the cpus upgraded "easily". Look around

 

fixed it for you

but, to answer the question at hand...
-Go for as high of a GPU as you can get if you plan to use the laptop primarily for gaming.
-If you like to game, but it isnt your primary focus go for a ~2.0ghz C2D processor (and then whatever GPU you can afford to get with that) I dont see any reason why anyone would need more than 2.0ghz (unless of course you are doing CPU intensive tasks, but then of course you wouldnt be having this dilema )

 

hey i find a really good gateway with 8800gts ddr3, do you think 2.00ghz would be a bottleneck?

 

It might for some games like World in Conflict.

As for me, I'd do some research first to see if that particular CPU would bottleneck my GPU. If it does, no way am I getting it.

 

2ghz is still fast, if it is a c2d

 

Take the GPU over the CPU. In almost all games the GPU is what is important (especially if you want high resolution and or AA/AF eye candy).
1.83 might seem slow, but it's actually still quick. I don't know of any modern laptops that actualy have a dedicated video card that you cannot upgrade the CPU with. And upgrading is pretty inexpensive. I.e. you can buy a 2.4ghz penryn (brand new) for less than 250.

 

If you can afford a MBP, why not just go for the sager NP5793 from www.xoticpc.com ?

 

prasad, is the np5793 graphic card and cpu upgradable?

and why is that sager in that website cheaper than the official website, if you happened to know

 

XoticPC is an official Sager reseller, hence the discounts.
And yes, the Sager is by far more upgradeable than any other brand of laptops.

 

Holly cow........So can i choose a low graphic card(8700m) and low cpu. and month later upgrade it myself? and when i say upgrade i mean CPU and Graphic card?

Also, do stores sell graphic card?

 

Not all laptops can upgrade their onboard video cards, read the big sticky at the top of the forum? CPU on the other hand is upgradeable on virtually all laptops.

Ask Ice-Tea about MXM video card sales, you should do some reading up before asking though.

 

just a thought... u can easily upgrade a CPU if the need arises for a measly amount ( 250 USD ? )

But if the time comes when u might need a more powerful GPU... most likely you would have to change ur laptop. So in the long run, going for the more powerful GPU might be cheaper....

 

go with slower cpu and faster gpu

 

Yeah... get the 8800M GTX ( > 2 8700M ), then get other components as per budget Prioritize the GPU, I say!

 

But when i costumize the sager, the video card each says <user upgradable>, 8700mgt, quadro fx 1600m and 8800 GTX

thats why i said that meaby i could go for cheap one and save later for the GTX

Is this possible

 

Thats possible , but not worth it. If your going to upgrade you probably want to upgrade into the next generation (i.e. get the 8700GT and upgrade to the 9800GTX later on). Personally I would just go with the 8800GTX and forget about it because you will be fine for 3-4 years easy.

 

I agree.. skip the 8700M. There's a huge gap between them.

 

SORRY, i meant to say that when i customize it, it says, that each of them are user upgradable.

the reason i want to know if i can upgrade to gtx later on, then i can buy the laptop now, and save later for the gtx


thanks guys, extremely helpful

 

do no sacrfice anything in a laptop! All the blood will render the new notebook useless!!