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    When will the geforce 9 series cards be launched

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by crinzema, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. crinzema

    crinzema Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm in the market for buying a new laptop, but I'm wondering if i am buying on the tail end of the geforce 8 series?
     
  2. link1313

    link1313 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I hear the nvidia has some DX10.1 cards coming out soon, not sure if they are the 9-series or not.

    for laptops though new graphics most likely won't be coming our until next summer when intel updates their platform.
     
  3. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    You can't expect the 9 series to be launched in laptops until maybe the end of 2008. The desktop cards are not even out yet.

    EDIT: And we follow nVidia's recent trend of putting out mobile cards about 9 months or so after the desktop cards.
     
  4. crinzema

    crinzema Notebook Evangelist

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    I did not realize laptop graphics cards came out 9 months after desktops cards.
     
  5. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    On October 29th 2007 at 7:55:04 PM.
     
  6. Joga

    Joga Notebook Evangelist

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    The 8800 GT (codenamed G96 or G92, there's some confusion about that) is a desktop card that will be between the 8800 GTS and GTX in performance, and cost about $250. Coming out October 29.

    This marks Nvidia's move down to 65nm chips (vs. the 90nm of the old parts), which means that laptops will probably finally get a decent high-end DX10 card that will supplant the Go 7950 GTX from its throne. Nobody knows when we'll see these 65nm high-end mobile parts, but maybe by this winter.

    Nobody knows when the desktop 9XXX-series will come out (successor to the 8800 GTX), but it will probably be sometime in spring of next year.

    Yup, that's about right. It's actually longer with the 8800 series (which came out almost exactly a year ago), since we still haven't seen a high-end 8XXX-series in a laptop yet. Hopefully soon.
     
  7. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    yes, i hope the 65nm process will yield a very nice powerful card for us, becasue there isnt one other than the 7950gtx right now.
     
  8. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    As said, the G92 will debut shortly, though it won't truly be a "9 series" card, as nVidia is calling it the 8800GT. However, with any luck this launch means that nVidia has nearly perfected the 65nm process, which should enable a high end mobile part shortly afterwards. No one knows whether it will be called a "9 series" or whether it will be an 8800mGT, yet though. And if you're looking for a mid-range update or value range update (a G96 or G98 mobile part) you'll likely be waiting significantly longer still.

    In summary, now is a good time to buy a mid-range or performance gaming laptop, but a bad time to buy a high-end or enthusiast gaming laptop.
     
  9. HTWingNut

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    So, in other words, 8600m that is in most laptops now are pretty much best we'll get for a 15" for a while? That sounds reasonable.
     
  10. Syntax Error

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    Pretty much, because of heat, power, and thermal requirements within a laptop, I wouldn't expect a card like an 8800m in a 15.4" frame.
     
  11. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    That's my take on the situation.

    It's theoretically possible to put a much more powerful card in a 15.4" using the 65nm die (maybe not up to desktop 8800 level, but certainly more powerful than the 8600M-GT), however I doubt nVidia will bother updating the current mid-range lineup until the real 9m series, which will most certainly come after the desktop 9 series, so you're looking at a bare minimum of 6 months or so from now. That's my prediction at least.
     
  12. ShinAkuma135

    ShinAkuma135 The King of Beasts

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    i think the desktop 9 series is coming sometime later this year. I'm just going to not buy any card until the 10 series....i just want to know what they'll name it...surely not 10000gtx or something like that.
     
  13. Jeff

    Jeff Notebook Retard

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    yep, later this month, and next month for desktop cards.

    they will probably think of some fancy name that has nothing to do with 4 digit numbers and the letters g, t, s or x.
     
  14. Harleyquin07

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    Just curious as to how you would define mid-range, performance, high-end and enthusiast gaming laptops odin. Where I am right now the most powerful graphics combo is dual 7950GTX(shops only) or the M1730 with the dual 8700GT. From there it's the 8600GT DDR3 then the 8600GT DDR2 along with HD2600.

    Would it be correct to say that high-end and enthusiast class laptops need minimum SLi configs to earn the classification with the 8600GT and below classed as performance or worse?
     
  15. Macpod

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    given the desktop 8600GT isnt much faster than the mobile version, i don't think we'll see a 8600GT replacement until the 9600GT.

    But what's sad is that the HD 2600 is at 65nm already but is still only comparable to the 8600GT. It should be faster! And no one is having any lucks overclocking it. incompatible drivers and such. hopefully it gets significantly better when those issues are fixed.

    I suppose HD 3500 will be 55nm and coming out same time when the 65nm nvidia mobile chips come out.
     
  16. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    I'm basing my classifications on video card specs, so it really only applies to single card configurations. The M1730 is definitely an enthusiast gaming laptop with it's SLI config.

    Generally the classes are broken down by the bus width, with 256bit+ cards being classed as enthusiast or high end, 128bit cards being classed as performance or mid range, and 64-bit (and lower) cards being classed as value or entry level.
     
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    Essentially none of the DX10 compatible cards are high-end since none of them have a 256-bit bus. Makes the hype over the 8800 make more sense given the premium some users are willing to pay for laptop gaming performance.
     
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    If they release a 8800m i wonter how it would perform compared to desktop counterpart. Given the 7950 performs like a desktop 7900GT desktop performance wise.
     
  19. crinzema

    crinzema Notebook Evangelist

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    If you had to estimated a date in which a new Nvidia mid range notebook graphics card would come out, when would that be. By this time next year? How long did the 7 series last from when it was launch till the 8 series launch and when did the 8 series notebook card come out?
     
  20. lunateck

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    Although it is not nvidia, ATI is launching it's HD3800 (RV670) this end of the year. So expect nvidia to follow up quite soon. All these are desktop parts thou. but do expect ati to give it all out to get the market share back.
     
  21. Kierkes

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    Think about what will happen once nVidia hits 9000 on their cards. They're either going to be creative (and by that I mean ridiculous) and give some nutjob name to their new cards, or they're going to bite off ATI's naming system and go back to 0, but stick a fancy letter other than X in front of it.
     
  22. odin243

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    It will almost certainly be based off the 8800GT (G92), so once that comes out we'll see exactly how it performs, then take off maybe 10% performance or more for the mobile version, depending on how underclocked it is.

    The Go 7600 debuted January '06 I believe, while the 8600M-GT came out in May of '07.

    My best guess is that you'll see an update to the mid-range sector by nVidia between 5 and 8 months from now.
     
  23. JCMS

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    The 7600GT was released in march 06 so the go 7600 should be near may too no?
     
  24. odin243

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    The Go7600 was released in January of '06 by nVidia.