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    Which is better a 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS or a 512MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by ghurty, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. ghurty

    ghurty Newbie

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    All else, being equal, which one of these is a better notebook graphics card:
    A 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS or A 512MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600?

    Thankx
     
  2. JCMS

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    The 8600GS
     
  3. alexejrm

    alexejrm Notebook Consultant

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    Defenetly 8600GS
     
  4. Yuumoya

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    8600GS is much better as it supports DX10 and is faster
     
  5. JCMS

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    if someone said Go 7600 GT, it would have been different though
     
  6. ghurty

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    Well, my current notebook in the device manager states "7600", how can I find out if it is a GT model or not?
     
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    I think GO 7600GT is rare and had only 256Mb in memory, so its propobly not :)
     
  8. ghurty

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    Ok thankx.

    what makes the 8600M GS so much better 7600? (Besides being DX10)
     
  9. AHHHRT

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    Clock speeds for the most part.
     
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    You don't have a GT model.
    The 8600M-GS has more raw processing power, in part due to higher clock speeds. Also, it's 16 stream processors give more shading power than the 7600's 8 pixel pipelines and 5 vertex pipelines do.

    Notebookcheck is a pretty poor source for mobile GPU information.
     
  12. JCMS

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    256MB of GDDR3 is better than 512MB of DDR2 :)

    I think the GDDR3 8600M GS doesn't even exist even though it's its official spec
     
  13. odin243

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    The GDDR3 8600M-GS does indeed exist.
     
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    Sure Notebookcheck is a pretty poor source, but better then nothing :)
     
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    Wich notebook? It would make sense to have at least one but wich?
     
  16. odin243

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    The BenQ S41 has it, the LG P300 has it, the Asus F3Sv has it, in fact I can't think of very many notebooks that have a DDR2 version TBH.
     
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    About the 16 stream processors, each pipeline of the 7600 is equivalent to for stream processors, but the stream processors run at a very high clock speed.
    If the game uses perfectly well the pipelines of the 7600 then it will be like the 7600 had 8x4+5x4=52 stream processors at 450mhz versus the 16 at 1200mhz of the 8600gs. But this is only where the balance of the pipelines of the 7600 match perfectly the job.

    If you are to upgrade from a 7600 to 8600 gs you will probably not see a very large difference. If you are deciding which notebook buy the 8600 gs will be a bit more powerfull.
     
  18. JCMS

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    The F3SV is clocked at 400 and OC is about 600 max, that's DDR2, or severely crippled GDDR3

    The other 2 got 2800 in 3dmark06 1280x800 do that would be 2100 at 1280x1024 like the Asus although I wasn't able to find much informations about them
     
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    With the GDDR3 8600M-GS you'd actually see a very noticeable difference, close to 50% performance increase in modern games at 1440x900.

    The F3sv has undervolted GDDR3 memory, DDR2 does not consistantly OC to 600mHz. ~2700 is the average 3dmark06 at 1280x800 for a GDDR3 8600M-GS.
     
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    Okay, GDDR3 that cannot be clocked over the speed of DDR2. GDDR3 is DDR2 so at same clocks it's same bandwith, unlike GDDR4

    Nvidia specs is still GDDR3 700
     
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    for what its worth, you can't play any modern games at 1440x900

    Crysis will be an 800x600 adventure, cod4 might go at 1024x640, as will gears of war...
     
  22. JCMS

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    The 8600M GS will run them all at 1440x900, maybe at the lowest settings but still...

    Both are still stronger than a GF 6600 128MB
     
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    it might run them, but so will an intel x3100.

    we like to not think about it.

    8600m gs will not run crysis acceptably at 1440x900 with low settings.

    still - the 8600m gs is better than a 7600 even at modest resolutions for new games.

    you might be able to swing gow or cod4 at 1440x900 with low settings.

    imo it looks much better to keep settings relatively high despite the resolution, even with interpolation problems.

    both are stronger than the 6600...
     
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    Technically it's cooler and less power hungry at the same clock speeds, but you're right, it gives the same performance as DDR2. Though the undervolted GDDR3 memory consistantly overclocks better than DDR2, reaching 600mHz on most machines.

    Some modern games, such as most U3 engine ones, will run acceptably at 1440x900, with low shaders and shadows, and some medium settings. Though for my preferences, to get acceptably high settings you'll need to run at 1024x769 or sometimes 1280x800. Which is not too bad at all TBH.
     
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    Yeah well that's it and why I put it in. GDDR3 should always hit 600 no problem while DDR2 will stop arround 550 but it's not really diffrent. Why can't they just put real GDDR3 that would OC to 900 :(
     
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    From what I can tell, the memory chips are normal GDDR3, it's just that Asus undervolted them. Most likely for cooling reasons, as Asus has serious problems in that area.
     
  27. JCMS

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    EDIT: nvm, it's cooler